# Botticelli - April 2019

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 1, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852 "2019-04-01T13:08:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/21 "2019-04-02T14:52:15Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’m not Holden Caulfield, dunno, and not Howard Carter.

Correct, George Chapman (immortalized in Keats’ poem _On First Looking Into Chapman’s Homer_), Correct.

DQ: Created after 1899?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/22 "2019-04-02T15:22:43Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> …
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a peanut farmer from Plains, Georgia?
> 2. Were you Pinocchio’s conscience in the 1940 film?
> 3. Did you play #2?

Not Jimmy Carter, Jiminy Cricket or… d’oh, I should know that, but I forget.

C.

1. fictional
2. male
3. last name starts with C
4. not originally from film
5. created by an American author or authors
6. originally from literature
7. created after 1899

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/23 "2019-04-02T15:34:39Z")

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DQ: Protagonist/good guy?

1 DQ left

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/24 "2019-04-02T15:36:38Z")

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C.

1. fictional
2. male
3. last name starts with C
4. not originally from film
5. created by an American author or authors
6. originally from literature
7. created after 1899
8. not protagonist/good guy

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/25 "2019-04-02T20:05:05Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you Earl Der Biggers’ best known character?
2. Were you the Catman in the rock group KISS?
3. Are you currently playing Queen Victoria in the BBC series _Victoria_?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/26 "2019-04-02T20:22:36Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you Earl Der Biggers’ best known character?
> 2. Were you the Catman in the rock group KISS?
> 3. Are you currently playing Queen Victoria in the BBC series _Victoria_?

Dunno, not Peter Criss, and dunno.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/27 "2019-04-02T20:44:22Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you Earl Der Biggers’ best known character?
> 2. Were you the Catman in the rock group KISS?
> 3. Are you currently playing Queen Victoria in the BBC series _Victoria_?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno, not Peter Criss, and dunno.

#1 was Charlie Chan.  
Correct on #2.  
#3 is Jenna Coleman.

DQs:

1. From genre literature (fantasy, sci-fi, western, horror, mystery, etc.)?
2. Created after 1969?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/28 "2019-04-02T20:47:52Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you fall victim to a wafer thin mint?
2. Are you Scott Summers’s superhero alter ego?
3. Were you Minnie Bannister’s boyfriend on the highly acclaimed 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/29 "2019-04-02T21:04:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Jimmy Carter, Jiminy Cricket or… d’oh, I should know that, but I forget.

3 was Cliff Edwards.

IQs:

1. Did you play the mysterious woman pursuing Jake and Elwood in _The Blues Brothers_?
2. Did you have a hit in 2011 with “Call Me Maybe”?
3. Were you a radical temperance activist who went into bars and smashed bottles with a hatchet?  
DQ: created before 1960?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/30 "2019-04-03T02:18:53Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you fall victim to a wafer thin mint?
> 2. Are you Scott Summers’s superhero alter ego?
> 3. Were you Minnie Bannister’s boyfriend on the highly acclaimed 1950’s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?

Not Mr. Creosote, dunno, and dunno.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> …
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you play the mysterious woman pursuing Jake and Elwood in _The Blues Brothers_?
> 2. Did you have a hit in 2011 with “Call Me Maybe”?
> 3. Were you a radical temperance activist who went into bars and smashed bottles with a hatchet?..

Dunno, not Carlie Ray Jepsen (sp?), and not Carrie Nation.

C.

1. fictional
2. male
3. last name starts with C
4. not originally from film
5. created by an American author or authors
6. originally from literature
7. created after 1899
8. not protagonist/good guy
9. arguably from genre literature (fantasy, sci-fi, western, horror, mystery, etc.)
10. not created after 1969
11. not created before 1960

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/31 "2019-04-03T10:58:44Z")

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IQ1: Were you murdered in the bath by a gladiator?

IQ2: Are you a club-footed ruler whose life was fictionalized in two novels by Robert Graves?

IQ3: Are you a heavyweight boxer who famously converted to Islam?

DQ: Are you countercultural?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/32 "2019-04-03T11:13:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you fall victim to a wafer thin mint?
> 2. Are you Scott Summers’s superhero alter ego?
> 3. Were you Minnie Bannister’s boyfriend on the highly acclaimed 1950’s BBC radio series The Goon Show?  
> Not Mr. Creosote, dunno, and dunno.

Correct on #1.  
#2 is Cyclops.  
#3 was Henry Crun (voiced by Spike Milligan).

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/33 "2019-04-03T12:05:09Z")

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DQ: Adapted into film or TV?

IQ1: Were you The Doctor before Jodie Whitaker?  
IQ2: Were you IQ1’s first companion?  
IQ3: Do you play Daenerys Targaryen on _Game of Thrones_?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/34 "2019-04-03T13:33:47Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQ1: Were you murdered in the bath by a gladiator?
> 
> IQ2: Are you a club-footed ruler whose life was fictionalized in two novels by Robert Graves?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a heavyweight boxer who famously converted to Islam?..

Not Commodus, Claudius or Cassius Clay.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> …
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> IQ1: Were you The Doctor before Jodie Whitaker?  
> IQ2: Were you IQ1’s first companion?  
> IQ3: Do you play Daenerys Targaryen on _Game of Thrones_?

Dunno, dunno and not Emilia Clarke. Mrowwrrrr.

C.

1. fictional
2. male
3. last name starts with C
4. not originally from film
5. created by an American author or authors
6. originally from literature
7. created after 1899
8. not protagonist/good guy
9. arguably from genre literature (fantasy, sci-fi, western, horror, mystery, etc.)
10. not created after 1969
11. not created before 1960
12. not what would usually be called countercultural\*
13. adapted into film or TV

\*Given the examples provided in the opening paragraph here: [Counterculture - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterculture)

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/35 "2019-04-03T14:08:45Z")

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IQ1: Are you the first American novelist of international reputation?

IQ2: Are you the writer of whom Hemingway said “All modern American literature comes from one book by [you] called…"?

IQ3: Are you a Spanish woman whose divorce from her Anglo-Welsh husband led to far-reaching changes in English law and culture?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/36 "2019-04-03T15:37:06Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno, not Carlie Ray Jepsen (sp?), and not Carrie Nation.

1 was Carrie Fisher.

IQs:

1. Aside from your acting and directing career, were you mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA?
2. Is your favorite cereal Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs?
3. Were you a paleontologist and rival of Othniel Charles Marsh in the Bone Wars?  
DQ: from fantasy/sci-fi?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/37 "2019-04-03T18:37:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Were you The Doctor before Jodie Whitaker?  
> IQ2: Were you IQ1’s first companion?  
> IQ3: Do you play Daenerys Targaryen on Game of Thrones?
> 
> Dunno, dunno and not Emilia Clarke. Mrowwrrrr.

Peter Capaldi, Clara Oswald - I wanted the 3rd IQ to be about Jenna Coleman, the actress who played her, but she was already used upthread.

DQ: Did you die in the original story?

holding a DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/38 "2019-04-03T19:00:44Z")

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DQ: considered a bad guy/villain?  
1 DQ reserved

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/39 "2019-04-03T20:30:42Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the first American novelist of international reputation?
> 
> IQ2: Are you the writer of whom Hemingway said “All modern American literature comes from one book by [you] called…"?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a Spanish woman whose divorce from her Anglo-Welsh husband led to far-reaching changes in English law and culture?

Not Samuel Clemens, or Willa Cather, and dunno.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> …
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Aside from your acting and directing career, were you mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA?
> 2. Is your favorite cereal Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs?
> 3. Were you a paleontologist and rival of Othniel Charles Marsh in the Bone Wars?..

Not Clint Eastwood, not Calvin (or Hobbes), and dunno.

C.

1. fictional
2. male
3. last name starts with C
4. not originally from film
5. created by an American author or authors
6. originally from literature
7. created after 1899
8. not protagonist/good guy
9. arguably from genre literature (fantasy, sci-fi, western, horror, mystery, etc.)
10. not created after 1969
11. not created before 1960
12. not what would usually be called countercultural
13. adapted into film or TV
14. not from fantasy/sci-fi
15. did not die in the original story
16. not considered a bad guy/villain in the story

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2019/831852/40 "2019-04-03T23:04:02Z")

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DQ: From a mystery?

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