# Botticelli - April 2021

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 3, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348 "2021-04-03T21:37:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 11

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/201 "2021-04-21T03:22:50Z")

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He said spy genre. That eliminates Dial M, Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo and Strangers on a train.

Was _Lifeboat_ during those years?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/202 "2021-04-21T14:29:50Z")

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I don’t think so, but can’t be sure without checking. I’m coming up with movies but not characters starting with K.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/203 "2021-04-21T17:23:35Z")

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DQ1: Military character?  
DQ2: Young character (~30 or less)?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/204 "2021-04-21T17:32:38Z")

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**K**

1. Not real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with K
4. Created by an American or Americans
5. From a filmed dramatic work (i.e. movie, TV, etc.)
6. Character is American
7. Not created after 1980
8. Not created after 1960
9. From a movie
10. Created after 1940
11. Not main character
12. Not from a comedy
13. Not from a western
14. Not more than one appearance in movies
15. From the spy genre
16. Race unspecified
17. Not a side character
18. Depending on how one interprets “played by” and how meta one chooses to be, the answer to “played by an onscreen actor” could be either yes or no.
19. Not best known for TV appearance(s)
20. Movie set in the time it was made.
21. Movie not set during WWII
22. Not an antagonist
23. Movie directed by Alfred Hitchcock
24. Movie made after 1950
25. Not a military character
26. Age unspecified, but safely assumed to be an adult

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/205 "2021-04-21T18:20:43Z")

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Well, I’ve got an idea of who it is, if no one else does.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/206 "2021-04-21T18:29:56Z")

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So, go ahead and ask.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/207 "2021-04-21T21:04:27Z")

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Are you George Kaplan, the “secret agent” Roger is mistaken for in _North by Northwest_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/208 "2021-04-21T21:09:57Z")

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Now that’s a good guess!

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/209 "2021-04-21T21:21:36Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Are you George Kaplan, the “secret agent” Roger is mistaken for in _North by Northwest_ ?

**Yes!!** I am indeed **George Kaplan** from _North by Northwest_

The villains mistake advertising executive Roger Thornhill, played by Cary Grant, for secret agent George Kaplan, try (and fail) to kill him, then frame him for murder and send him on the run. The twist, which explains my answers to #16, #26 and #18 is (Spoiler for a 1959 film): George Kaplan does not exist. He’s a decoy set up by the good guys to divert attention from the real double agent they have embedded in the villain’s inner circle. For #18 - “no” in the sense that Kaplan is not a real character and so never appears on screen. “yes” in the sense that at one point in the film, the good spies convince Thornhill to pretend to be Kaplan in order to fake Kaplan’s on-screen death and lull the bad guys into a sense of security.

Well done, DLR!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/210 "2021-04-21T21:22:14Z")

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Great job, DLR! Good choice, Chock! Yay!

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/211 "2021-04-21T23:47:51Z")

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New game will start later tonight.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/212 "2021-04-22T01:59:21Z")

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I’ve never seen any Hitchcock films.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/213 "2021-04-22T02:27:50Z")

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New game: I am (a person with the initial) I.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/214 "2021-04-22T02:58:46Z")

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My favorite Hitchcock film is _High Anxiety_.

IQs:

1. Were you a priestess of Hera?
2. Did you have a hit with _A Little Bitty Tear_?
3. Are you the title character of a Gilbert & Sullivan operetta?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/215 "2021-04-22T03:51:21Z")

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Congrats, **DLR**! I’ve seen the movie but couldn’t have named that character.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> I’ve never seen any Hitchcock films.

You’re in for a treat - or many! I’d suggest you start with _Notorious_, another spy flick and my all-time Hitchcock favorite, but I’m sure others have their own must-sees.

On to I!

IQs:

Was your nemesis supposedly killed during the Battle of White Plains?  
Were you a quirky fat guy living in Nawlins?  
Did you offer your captives the choice of Cake or Death?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/216 "2021-04-22T13:08:05Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a priestess of Hera?
> 2. Did you have a hit with _A Little Bitty Tear_?
> 3. Are you the title character of a Gilbert & Sullivan operetta?

1. I am not Io.  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. I am not Iolanthe.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Was your nemesis supposedly killed during the Battle of White Plains?  
> Were you a quirky fat guy living in Nawlins?  
> Did you offer your captives the choice of Cake or Death?

Respectively:  
Take a DQ.  
I am not Ignatius O’Reilly.  
I am not an unnamed fundamentalist Anglican in an Eddie Izzard routine.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/217 "2021-04-22T13:45:27Z")

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Previous IQs:

Was your nemesis supposedly killed during the Battle of White Plains? - Ichabod Crane; the Headless Horseman was said to be the wrathful spirit of a Hessian soldier  
Were you a quirky fat guy living in Nawlins? - Yes, Ignatius O’Reilly, in _A Confederacy of Dunces_  
Did you offer your captives the choice of Cake or Death? - Yes, Eddie Izzard

DQ:

Real?

IQs:

Are you an emaciated rock star?  
Were you First Lady of Argentina?  
Are you a novelist from a noted South American political family?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/218 "2021-04-22T13:57:35Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > > 1. Were you a priestess of Hera?
> > > 2. Did you have a hit with _A Little Bitty Tear_ ?
> > > 3. Are you the title character of a Gilbert & Sullivan operetta?
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> 1. I am not Io.
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. I am not Iolanthe.

Correct, Burl Ives, Correct.

DQ: Male?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/219 "2021-04-22T13:59:55Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you play a P.O.W. on _Hogan’s Heroes_?
2. Did you write the play _Picnic_?
3. Did you write _Chitty Chitty Bang Bang_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2021/939348/220 "2021-04-22T17:08:20Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Are you an emaciated rock star?  
> Were you First Lady of Argentina?  
> Are you a novelist from a noted South American political family?

Respectively:  
I am not Iggy Pop.  
I am not Isobel Peron.  
I am not Isabelle Allende.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you play a P.O.W. on _Hogan’s Heroes_?
> 2. Did you write the play _Picnic_?
> 3. Did you write _Chitty Chitty Bang Bang_?

1. Oh, crap, I think this is the guy SCAdian mentioned earlier. Ivan Something? Or is Ivan the first name of the character?  
2. Take a DQ.  
3. I am not Ian Fleming.

DQs  
1. real  
2. female

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