# Botticelli - April 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [April 3, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093 "2023-04-03T16:37:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/101 "2023-04-15T03:20:09Z")

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So some 19th century European guy with a common fist name that begins with J who is not known for anything. That narrows it down to only a couple of million possibilities. 😄

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/102 "2023-04-15T08:06:16Z")

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What could this guy be known for?

DQ: From a Scandinavian country?

Holding 2 DQs

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/103 "2023-04-15T10:58:07Z")

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He might be known for law enforcement, or for exploration, or maybe inventions. Or something else entirely.

Good stumper, EH!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/104 "2023-04-15T14:54:38Z")

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Thanks 😁

J.

1. real
2. male
3. first name starts with J
4. not known for the Arts
5. not American
6. not known for business
7. not an unusual first name
8. dead
9. not known for politics/military
10. European
11. not known for sports
12. died before 1950
13. died after 1800
14. from continental Europe
15. died before 1900
16. not known for science
17. not known for humanities/social sciences (history, anthropology, philosophy, Sociology, literary criticism etc.)
18. not a criminal
19. not a native speaker of a Romance language
20. not from a Scandinavian country

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/105 "2023-04-15T17:50:17Z")

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BTW, the recently deceased MAD artist was Al Jaffee, not Sam Jaffe. We both misremembered his name.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/106 "2023-04-15T20:25:09Z")

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So probably German or eastern European, or maybe greek or Turkish (Ottoman empire?)

Could also be a religious leader, or just someone who was a the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time, to find their name recorded in history.

I have 1 DQ left, but honestly don’t have any good candidates to direct it at.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/107 "2023-04-15T20:28:33Z")

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We haven’t necessarily removed the nobility either.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/108 "2023-04-15T22:56:05Z")

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I thought of explorer, but I would classify that as science.

DQ: Has something named after him?

Holding one DQ

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/109 "2023-04-16T03:04:55Z")

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J.

1. real
2. male
3. first name starts with J
4. not known for the Arts
5. not American
6. not known for business
7. not an unusual first name
8. dead
9. not known for politics/military
10. European
11. not known for sports
12. died before 1950
13. died after 1800
14. from continental Europe
15. died before 1900
16. not known for science
17. not known for humanities/social sciences (history, anthropology, philosophy, Sociology, literary criticism etc.)
18. not a criminal
19. not a native speaker of a Romance language
20. not from a Scandinavian country
21. has several things named after him

Please ask all earned DQs by noon EDST Monday.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/110 "2023-04-16T11:40:25Z")

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Maybe a nonfiction writer?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/111 "2023-04-16T11:55:52Z")

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Is linguistics a science?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/112 "2023-04-17T00:11:08Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Is linguistics a science?

Wiki: Linguistics is considered to be an applied science as well as an academic field of general study within the humanities and social sciences.

So DQs 16 and 17 rule out a person I’m thinking of. ☹

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/113 "2023-04-17T00:41:06Z")

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I’m stumped. Anyone is welcome to make use of my final DQ.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/114 "2023-04-17T01:38:40Z")

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Using Chock’s DQ: Known for writing?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/115 "2023-04-17T02:27:52Z")

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My final DQ,

Did what the person is famous for require specialized skill or knowledge, as opposed to something most anyone could do if placed in that position.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/116 "2023-04-18T12:05:44Z")

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bumpity

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/117 "2023-04-18T16:50:26Z")

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Agreed as to linguistics.

J.

1. real
2. male
3. first name starts with J
4. not known for the Arts
5. not American
6. not known for business
7. not an unusual first name
8. dead
9. not known for politics/military
10. European
11. not known for sports
12. died before 1950
13. died after 1800
14. from continental Europe
15. died before 1900
16. not known for science
17. not known for humanities/social sciences (history, anthropology, philosophy, Sociology, literary criticism etc.)
18. not a criminal
19. not a native speaker of a Romance language
20. not from a Scandinavian country
21. has several things named after him
22. not particularly known for writing, although he did write
23. what the person is famous for did, at least to some extent, require specialized skill or knowledge, as opposed to something most anyone could do if placed in that position

Tawk amongst yourselves, and then please ask all earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by noon EDST tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/118 "2023-04-18T16:52:55Z")

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So much for Jakob Grimm.

Hmmm…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/119 "2023-04-18T17:19:43Z")

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DQ: Are you James Ross, of Ross Sea and Ross Ice Shelf fame?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-april-2023/982093/120 "2023-04-18T17:20:43Z")

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I am not.

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