# Botticelli, Aug. 2011

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**Created:** [August 1, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030 "2011-08-01T13:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/221 "2011-08-21T11:34:35Z")

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> Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà**  
> IQ: Did the Queen of the Fairies banish you for loving a mortal and having a son with him?

> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Ask a DQ.

**Iolanthe** , the title character from the Gilbert and Sullivan operetta of the same name. She is banished from the land of the Fairies for her dalliance with the Lord Chancellor. Despite her immortality, she appears to be a girl of seventeen, which causes great trouble for her son, Strephon. When he is seen embracing his mother, his bride to be, Phyllis, is extremely jealous and rejects him.  
At any rate -

DQ: Is the letter ‘I’ the initial of your last name?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/222 "2011-08-21T17:35:10Z")

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Imogene Coca was cranky Aunt Edna in National Lampoon’s Vacation, in which her dog was dragged to death behind Chevy Chase’s car.

Iva Toguri D’Aquino was the radio propagandist pardoned by Gerald Ford.

Ish Kabibble was the cornet player/comic sidekick for Kay Kyser.

You got Izzy Stradlin and Isaac Bashevis Singer right.  
DQ1: Are you English?

DQ2: Were you a musician or composer?

DQ3: Were you still alive in the 21st century?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/223 "2011-08-21T23:13:03Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Imogene Coca was cranky Aunt Edna in National Lampoon’s Vacation, in which her dog was dragged to death behind Chevy Chase’s car.
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> Iva Toguri D’Aquino was the radio propagandist pardoned by Gerald Ford.
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> Ish Kabibble was the cornet player/comic sidekick for Kay Kyser.
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> You got Izzy Stradlin and Isaac Bashevis Singer right.  
> DQ1: Are you English?
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> DQ2: Were you a musician or composer?
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> DQ3: Were you still alive in the 21st century?

I Am:

1. Real Person
2. Male  
3.European
3. Born in the 20th Century, ergo after 1900
4. Dead
5. Involved in the arts. “celebrated” is open for discussion.
6. Not an actor (various interpretations of actual wording may blur the lines a bit.)
7. Not generally thought of as comedic
8. First name begins with I
9. English
10. Musician
11. Dead before the 21st century.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/224 "2011-08-22T01:53:31Z")

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IQ: Were you an heiress and philanthropist best known for your unfortunate name?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/225 "2011-08-22T03:29:10Z")

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IQ: Were you a real-life pianist who appeared as a character in Robert Altman’s _Gosford Park_?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/226 "2011-08-22T03:30:50Z")

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Did you write most of the music on the album _ **In the Court of the Crimson King** _?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/227 "2011-08-22T03:32:16Z")

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Did David Bowie dedicate the song “Jean Genie” to you?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/228 "2011-08-22T03:34:54Z")

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Were you booted from the official lineup of the Rolling Stones before they became famous?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/229 "2011-08-22T07:10:33Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ: Were you an heiress and philanthropist best known for your unfortunate name?

I am not Ima Hogg.

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> **astorian** Were you booted from the official lineup of the Rolling Stones before they became famous?

Ask a DQ

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> Did David Bowie dedicate the song "Jean Genie" to you? 
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> ```

I am not Iggy Pop.

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> Did you write most of the music on the album In the Court of the Crimson King? 
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Should know but don’t. Another DQ.

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> ```
> IQ: Were you a real-life pianist who appeared as a character in Robert Altman's Gosford Park? 
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Another DQ..

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/230 "2011-08-22T12:02:03Z")

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Pianist Ian Stewart was booted from the Rolling Stones

Keyboard/sax/flute player Ian McDonald (later in Foreigner) wrote most of the music on _ **In the Court of the Crimson King.** _

Ivor Novello was the pianist who appeared as a character in _ **Gosford Park.** _  
DQ1: Are you a pop/rock musician?

DQ2: Were you at your career peak after 1960?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/231 "2011-08-22T14:02:41Z")

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IQ: Are you the title character of a Mozart opera, whose name is the Latinate version of a character from the Iliad?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/232 "2011-08-22T16:35:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Was Arlen Specter your lawyer before you decided to skip town?

This was Ira Einhorn, who killed his girlfriend and split for France, where he lived for many years under a false name. After a protracted court battle, during which the Philadelphia D.A. agreed not to seek the death penalty, Einhorn was extradited, returned, convicted and imprisoned.

DQ: Better known as a solo artist or for your role in a group?

IQ: Did you variously play a doctor, a detective and a scheming politician?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/233 "2011-08-22T20:06:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> This was Ira Einhorn, who killed his girlfriend and split for France, where he lived for many years under a false name. After a protracted court battle, during which the Philadelphia D.A. agreed not to seek the death penalty, Einhorn was extradited, returned, convicted and imprisoned.
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> DQ: Better known as a solo artist or for your role in a group?
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> IQ: Did you variously play a doctor, a detective and a scheming politician?

Not sure on this one. Ask a DQ.

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> \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\* IQ: Are you the title character of a Mozart opera, whose name is the Latinate version of a character from the Iliad?

Unfamiliar with this work. Ask a DQ.

Am:

1. Real Person
2. Male  
3.European
3. Born in the 20th Century, ergo after 1900
4. Dead
5. Involved in the arts. “celebrated” is open for discussion.
6. Not an actor (various interpretations of actual wording may blur the lines a bit.)
7. Not generally thought of as comedic
8. First name begins with I
9. English
10. Musician
11. Dead before the 21st century.
12. pop/rock musician
13. Career peaked after 1960
14. Part of a group

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/234 "2011-08-22T20:45:16Z")

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Has the band been inducted into the Rck ‘n’ Roll Hall of Fame?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/235 "2011-08-22T21:08:50Z")

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> **Le Ministre de l’au-delà** IQ: Are you the title character of a Mozart opera, whose name is the Latinate version of a character from the Iliad?

> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> Unfamiliar with this work. Ask a DQ.

**Idomeneo, re di Creta** tells of the fortunes of Idomeneus after the fall of Troy. Caught in a storm on the voyage home, he promises Neptune that if he survives, he will sacrifice the first person he sees on shore. Of course, the first person he sees is Idamante, his son. Hilarity ensues… (No, not really.)

DQ: Born after 1950?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/236 "2011-08-22T21:09:56Z")

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IQ: Did you play as the terrestrial part of the first terrestrial/orbital flute duet?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/237 "2011-08-23T01:16:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQ: Did you variously play a doctor, a detective and a scheming politician?

The late (and very talented) Ian Richardson played Dr. Joseph Bell, the Scotsman who inspired Arthur Conan Doyle to create Sherlock Holmes; Holmes himself; and Francis Urquhart, the devilishly ambitious British MP in _House of Cards_ and its sequels.

DQ: Did your group have any American Top 40 hits after 1975?

IQ: Did you complain when the filming of _Ghostbusters_ disrupted your daily routine?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/238 "2011-08-23T02:26:59Z")

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IQ: Was your most famous role (on a real show) the son of a popular actress (a fictional actress who appeared on a show which existed only in the imaginations of the creators of the real show)?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/239 "2011-08-23T03:20:55Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Did you play as the terrestrial part of the first terrestrial/orbital flute duet?

Don’t know. Ask a DQ

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> \*\*Elendil’s Heir \*\*  
> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by Elendil’s Heir View Post  
> …IQ: Did you variously play a doctor, a detective and a scheming politician?  
> The late (and very talented) Ian Richardson played Dr. Joseph Bell, the Scotsman who inspired Arthur Conan Doyle to create Sherlock Holmes; Holmes himself; and Francis Urquhart, the devilishly ambitious British MP in House of Cards and its sequels.
> 
> DQ: Did your group have any American Top 40 hits after 1975?
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> IQ: Did you complain when the filming of Ghostbusters disrupted your daily routine?

I’d say Ivan Reitman, but I’m pretty sure I’d be wrong

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> \*\*Sternvogel \*\* IQ: Was your most famous role (on a real show) the son of a popular actress (a fictional actress who appeared on a show which existed only in the imaginations of the creators of the real show)?

Not getting it. Another DQ

I Am:

1. Real Person
2. Male  
3.European
3. Born in the 20th Century, ergo after 1900
4. Dead
5. Involved in the arts. “celebrated” is open for discussion.
6. Not an actor (various interpretations of actual wording may blur the lines a bit.)
7. Not generally thought of as comedic
8. First name begins with I
9. English
10. Musician
11. Dead before the 21st century.
12. pop/rock musician
13. Career peaked after 1960
14. Part of a group
15. Unsure of Hall of Fame status, but doubtful.
16. Born after 1950
17. Had a top 40 hit after 1975.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/240 "2011-08-23T03:40:51Z")

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Did the other members of your successful band continue recording under a new name after you hanged yourself?

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