# Botticelli, Aug. 2011

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 1, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030 "2011-08-01T13:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/321 "2011-08-26T19:49:54Z")

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A DQ I guess (nobody specific in mind)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/322 "2011-08-26T19:59:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQ: Did you write _The Breaker_, a novel about the famous/notorious Australian soldier Harry “Breaker” Morant, later made into a movie?

Kit Denton… who later changed his mind and said he thought Morant probably _was_ guilty of war crimes!

When you say, “My fame was at its peak before 1970… but I didn’t actually DO anything newsworthy until after 1970!”, is that your personal opinion, or do you believe most objective observers would say that?

DQ: Last name begins A-M?

IQ: Were you a big outfielder for the Pittsburgh Pirates in the '70s and '80s who caught balls by swatting downward with your glove?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/323 "2011-08-26T20:00:21Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Are you the main villain of several animated racing-related shows?

Not Dick Dastardly (or Muttley)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/324 "2011-08-26T20:01:41Z")

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Okay then…

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born in the 20th century
4. No longer alive
5. Not involved in the arts
6. First name starts with “D”
7. Not a political figure
8. American
9. Still alive in 1970
10. Not famous for sports/athletics
11. Not known as a businessman
12. At peak of fame before 1970… but didn’t actually DO anything newsworthy until after 1970
13. Never won a Nobel Prize

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/325 "2011-08-26T20:05:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Kit Denton… who later changed his mind and said he thought Morant probably _was_ guilty of war crimes!
> 
> When you say, “My fame was at its peak before 1970… but I didn’t actually DO anything newsworthy until after 1970!”, is that your personal opinion, or do you believe most objective observers would say that?
> 
> DQ: Last name begins A-M?
> 
> IQ: Were you a big outfielder for the Pittsburgh Pirates in the '70s and '80s who caught balls by swatting downward with your glove?

My last name does not begin with A-M

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born in the 20th century
4. No longer alive
5. Not involved in the arts
6. First name starts with “D”
7. Not a political figure
8. American
9. Still alive in 1970
10. Not famous for sports/athletics
11. Not known as a businessman
12. At peak of fame before 1970… but didn’t actually DO anything newsworthy until after 1970
13. Never won a Nobel Prize
14. Last name begins with a letter from N thru Z.

#12 is a judgment call, but I’m pretty sure it’s accurate. See, my person was WORLD-famous in the Sixties, but the world had largely forgotten him by the time he actually DID something newsworthy (in the Seventies)

This may be an odd description… but if you figure out what I mean, you’ll guess who the person is quickly.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/326 "2011-08-26T20:06:08Z")

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Oh, as for the Pirates outfielder… Dave Parker?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/327 "2011-08-26T20:08:44Z")

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were you involved in science?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/328 "2011-08-26T20:12:52Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Oh, as for the Pirates outfielder… Dave Parker?

Yes. Well done.

**etv78** , I think you’ll want to ask a bit more narrow/obscure questions for your IQs (indirect questions). Just a suggestion.

IQ: Are you an actor who, years later, admitted exaggerrating your military service?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/329 "2011-08-26T20:16:52Z")

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IQ: Were you widely mocked for the expense of a project that has since more than paid for itself in insurance savings?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/330 "2011-08-26T20:18:22Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Not… the Dalai Lama? (If that’s not what you had in mind, take a DQ)

That is, in fact, not who I had in mind, but it fits the wording of my question admirably. Well played.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/331 "2011-08-26T20:24:04Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> were you involved in science?

Hmm… yes, sort of. (Not trying to be cagey, I swear!)

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born in the 20th century
4. No longer alive
5. Not involved in the arts
6. First name starts with “D”
7. Not a political figure
8. American
9. Still alive in 1970
10. Not famous for sports/athletics
11. Not known as a businessman
12. At peak of fame before 1970… but didn’t actually DO anything newsworthy until after 1970
13. Never won a Nobel Prize
14. Last name begins with a letter from N thru Z.
15. Sort of involved in science

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/332 "2011-08-26T20:25:16Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Yes. Well done.
> 
> **etv78** , I think you’ll want to ask a bit more narrow/obscure questions for your IQs (indirect questions). Just a suggestion.
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> IQ: Are you an actor who, years later, admitted exaggerrating your military service?

Not Brian Dennehy

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/333 "2011-08-26T20:26:16Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ: Were you widely mocked for the expense of a project that has since more than paid for itself in insurance savings?

Not sure who this is- ask a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/334 "2011-08-26T20:33:56Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Not Brian Dennehy

Correct! Damn, you’re good.

IQ: Were you a schlub who looked just like a VIP?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/335 "2011-08-26T20:37:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Correct! Damn, you’re good.
> 
> IQ: Were you a schlub who looked just like a VIP?

Will you settle for just “Dave” as an answer? (As in the Kevin Kline movie, about a guy who looked just like the President?) I haven’t seen the movie in years, and don’t remember his last name.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/336 "2011-08-26T21:35:41Z")

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IQ: Was an urban myth about you repeated on an episode of _M_A_S_H\*?

**etv78** : You don’t just get to ask DQ’s if you’re “fishing”. You have to earn a DQ by asking an IQ and stumping the person (in this round, **astorian** ) who’s posing the challenge.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/337 "2011-08-26T21:38:08Z")

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I never watched “M_A_S\*H,” so I don’t know the urban legend.

Ask a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/338 "2011-08-26T22:05:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by \*\*Le Ministre de l’au-delà \*\*  
> IQ: Were you widely mocked for the expense of a project that has since more than paid for itself in insurance savings?

> [@astorian](#):
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> Not sure who this is- ask a DQ.

**Dufferin ‘Duff’ Roblin** , the late premier of the province of Manitoba, is probably most famous for the building of the Red River Floodway, which diverts water from south of Winnipeg, Manitoba’s capitol and largest city, to the east and then the north of the city into the Red River just south of Lake Winnipeg. At the time, the project was criticized for being too expensive (although it was brought in on time and under budget) and was mockingly referred to as ‘Duff’s Ditch.’ However, it has saved the city from destructive flooding many times since its completion in the mid-1960’s.

DQ: Is your fame partly based on any military exploits?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/339 "2011-08-27T00:29:46Z")

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DQ: Are you arguably one of the first “heavy metal” guitarists?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/340 "2011-08-27T00:39:24Z")

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IQ: Did you famously quip that the reason most rock critics like Elvis Costello was that most rock critics look like Elvis Costello?

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