# Botticelli, Aug. 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 1, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030 "2011-08-01T13:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/481 "2011-09-02T15:24:38Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ll rephrase. Are you a young American woman, and for you, is it all about the climb?

No, I am not Miley Cyrus?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/482 "2011-09-02T15:30:23Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> MacMillan was a Tory in the Sixties. The first Labour/socialist Prime Minister was Ramsay MacDonald, in the Twenties.
> 
> And the barrister who created a fictional barrister was John Mortimer, author of the popular “Rumpole” series.  
> DQ1: Did you draw a comic strip that appeared in newspapers?
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> DQ2: Did you draw comic books and/or “graphic novels”?

I thought it might be the Rumpole guy, but had no idea of his name.

DQ1: Yes.  
DQ2: No.

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Dead
5. Known for accomplishments in the arts
6. Known for accomplishments in the visual arts
7. Not known for photography
8. Not known for painting
9. Not known for work in movie business
10. Not a sculptor
11. Born in the twentieth century
12. Slightly cutting-edge
13. Last name begins with “M”
14. Not known for acting
15. Alive in 1950
16. My art involved drawing
17. I drew a comic strip that appeared in newspapers
18. I did not draw comic books or graphic novels

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/483 "2011-09-02T15:33:50Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ: Is your first initial a letter between A and M in the alphabet?

The first initial of my birth certificate name does not start with A-M

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Dead
5. Known for accomplishments in the arts
6. Known for accomplishments in the visual arts
7. Not known for photography
8. Not known for painting
9. Not known for work in movie business
10. Not a sculptor
11. Born in the twentieth century
12. Slightly cutting-edge
13. Last name begins with “M”
14. Not known for acting
15. Alive in 1950
16. My art involved drawing
17. Correct, proper, formal first name begins with N-Z

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/484 "2011-09-02T15:36:18Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Did you ever reach the Billboard Top Ten with a mellow ballad written by Ian Hunter of Mott the Hoople?

No, and I don’t know. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/485 "2011-09-02T15:57:03Z")

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Barry Manilow hit the top ten with “Ships” (as in “Two ships that pass in the night”), a song by Ian Hunter.  
DQ: Were your comic strips “serious” rather than humorous?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/486 "2011-09-02T16:34:27Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ: Were your comic strips “serious” rather than humorous?

Tough one. I tried to make serious points in a humorous way.

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Dead
5. Known for accomplishments in the arts
6. Known for accomplishments in the visual arts
7. Not known for photography
8. Not known for painting
9. Not known for work in movie business
10. Not a sculptor
11. Born in the twentieth century
12. Slightly cutting-edge
13. Last name begins with “M”
14. Not known for acting
15. Alive in 1950
16. My art involved drawing
17. Correct, proper, formal first name begins with N-Z
18. My work was serio-humorous

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/487 "2011-09-02T18:15:30Z")

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Correct about Miley Cyrus.

IQ: After being blasted for timidity in wartime, did you later head a military academy?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/488 "2011-09-02T20:19:11Z")

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Does your comic still enjoy large circulation?

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/489 "2011-09-02T20:40:57Z")

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You’ve left the DQ responses originally numbered #17 and #18 from your latest summaries.

As for my IQ, you came up with a reply I hadn’t anticipated, so I’ll try again.

IQ: Although you’re not Mory, did _Doonesbury_ name a taproom after you?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/490 "2011-09-02T21:29:26Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ: After being blasted for timidity in wartime, did you later head a military academy?

No, I am not Marcus Reno?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/491 "2011-09-02T21:30:26Z")

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Edited post. Originally it was in response to etv’s DQ, which he probably earned with his Pop art stumper, but I don’t know yet what his intended answer was.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/492 "2011-09-02T21:31:55Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> You’ve left the DQ responses originally numbered #17 and #18 from your latest summaries.
> 
> As for my IQ, you came up with a reply I hadn’t anticipated, so I’ll try again.
> 
> IQ: Although you’re not Mory, did _Doonesbury_ name a taproom after you?

Aha, you’re right, sorry about that.

Mory was just a wild stab; chances are it is not correct but if you think it is, I will boldly answer “No, I am not Millicent Fenwick” this time.

1. Real
2. Male
3. American
4. Dead
5. Known for accomplishments in the arts
6. Known for accomplishments in the visual arts
7. Not known for photography
8. Not known for painting
9. Not known for work in movie business
10. Not a sculptor
11. Born in the twentieth century
12. Slightly cutting-edge
13. Last name begins with “M”
14. Not known for acting
15. Alive in 1950
16. My art involved drawing
17. I drew a comic strip that appeared in newspapers
18. I did not draw comic books or graphic novels
19. Correct, proper, formal first name begins with N-Z
20. My work was serio-humorous

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/493 "2011-09-02T21:37:09Z")

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Never mind.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/494 "2011-09-02T21:43:09Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> Edited post. Originally it was in response to etv’s DQ, which he probably earned with his Pop art stumper, but I don’t know yet what his intended answer was.

Sorry, didn’t realize I earned a DQ! So I’ll ask: Is your main character the epitome of Butt Monkey & Chew Toy?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/495 "2011-09-02T22:28:54Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Sorry, didn’t realize I earned a DQ! So I’ll ask: Is your main character the epitome of Butt Monkey & Chew Toy?

That looks more like an IQ. I’ll answer your DQ from above once you tell me your intended answer to the Pop Art question. Looking at earlier rounds, I believe that once twenty DQ’s are answered, we are in overtime and don’t treat with IQ’s any longer. I have answered a couple already because I messed up the listing and didn’t realize we were already at twenty.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/496 "2011-09-03T00:15:06Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> That looks more like an IQ. I’ll answer your DQ from above once you tell me your intended answer to the Pop Art question. Looking at earlier rounds, I believe that once twenty DQ’s are answered, we are in overtime and don’t treat with IQ’s any longer. I have answered a couple already because I messed up the listing and didn’t realize we were already at twenty.

The name I had in mind WRT Pop Art was Warhol.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/497 "2011-09-03T01:12:07Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> No, I am not Marcus Reno?

No, Mark Clark, blasted for not nudging his subordinate John Lucas to be aggressive enough in forcing his way out of the Anzio, Italy beachhead during WWII. Clark went on to head The Citadel military academy in Charleston, S.C.

Can’t ask a DQ, but I guess it doesn’t matter. I don’t know who **AppallingGael** is thinking of.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/498 "2011-09-03T01:27:38Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> The name I had in mind WRT Pop Art was Warhol.

…but neither ‘Andy’ nor ‘Warhol’ begin with the letter ‘M’. The answers to your Indirect Questions must all have an ‘M’ (for this round) as one of the initials.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/499 "2011-09-03T01:32:28Z")

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So, we’re looking for someone who had a newspaper comic strip, first name N-Z (but the way it was so precisely described, this may not have been a name the artist used for the strip.), last name M.

Wasn’t there a US editorial cartoonist named ‘Monahan’? Anyway, I’m much further ahead on who it isn’t than who it is, but I’ll keep grinding away at it…

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/500 "2011-09-03T02:24:26Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> You’ve left the DQ responses originally numbered #17 and #18 from your latest summaries.
> 
> As for my IQ, you came up with a reply I hadn’t anticipated, so I’ll try again.
> 
> IQ: Although you’re not Mory, did _Doonesbury_ name a taproom after you?

I’m not actually aware of a taproom named after Mory, but there was a Margaret Mead Taproom in the South Pacific as part of the story arc when Duke was Governor of American Samoa.

I believe I’ve earned one, so I’ll ask a

DQ: Did your title character spend time in Slumberland?

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