# Botticelli, Aug. 2011

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 1, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030 "2011-08-01T13:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/41 "2011-08-03T00:13:11Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> IQ: Do you have a Jackknife, fancy gloves and a line of whores waiting to pleasure you?

Dunno who this is, but he sounds like an interesting fellow! Ask a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/42 "2011-08-03T00:14:35Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> …Quick question on the rules, do I need to google-proof my IQ questions?

Absolutely not! No one should be using any reference sources whatsoever, online or otherwise, in playing this game. I won’t look up something unless I don’t know the answer to a DQ and cannot otherwise answer it accurately.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/43 "2011-08-03T00:15:46Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I was actually thinking of Thelonious Monk, who was famous for saying that there were no wrong notes on **his** piano. I await your judgment as to whether I’ve earned a DQ or not…
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> IQ: Did you lay a ‘father’s curse’ on Rigoletto?

Yes, you’ve won a DQ re: Monk.

Dunno about Rigoletto, so that’s another!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/44 "2011-08-03T00:16:57Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> He’s thinking of Maury Povich.

I think it’s better sportsmanship to let the person who posed the IQ supply the answer.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/45 "2011-08-03T00:25:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I think it’s better sportsmanship to let the person who posed the IQ supply the answer.

Sorry! :o You are quite right.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/46 "2011-08-03T01:20:02Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Yes, you’ve won a DQ re: Monk.
> 
> Dunno about Rigoletto, so that’s another!

In the first scene of the opera ‘Rigoletto’, **Monterone** bursts into the Duke’s party to demand reparations for the Duke’s abduction and ravishing of Monterone’s (unnamed) daughter. Rigoletto answers on behalf of the Duke, mocking Monterone, and as Monterone is hauled off to be executed, he curses the Duke and lays a ‘father’s curse’ on Rigoletto.

DQ1: Would you be considered the hero of the movies in which you appear?  
If I may, I would prefer to wait to ask my second DQ.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/47 "2011-08-03T01:22:22Z")

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Are you the head of MI6?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/48 "2011-08-03T02:18:41Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> In the first scene of the opera ‘Rigoletto’, **Monterone** bursts into the Duke’s party to demand reparations for the Duke’s abduction and ravishing of Monterone’s (unnamed) daughter. Rigoletto answers on behalf of the Duke, mocking Monterone, and as Monterone is hauled off to be executed, he curses the Duke and lays a ‘father’s curse’ on Rigoletto.
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> DQ1: Would you be considered the hero of the movies in which you appear?
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> If I may, I would prefer to wait to ask my second DQ.

Dunno that Monterone is as well-known as Botticelli, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. “M” is the initial of my first name
5. Movie character
6. Alive
7. Doesn’t appear in sci-fi movies
8. Not the hero

I await your second DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/49 "2011-08-03T02:20:30Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> Are you the head of MI6?

Heh. No, I’m not M. (Sir Miles Messervey in the original Bond stories). Here’s a freebie: neither am I M. (the title character in the Peter Lorre underworld thriller)!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/50 "2011-08-03T02:25:58Z")

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First, the talk show host I meant WAS indeed Maury Povich- his father Shirley Povich was a Washington DC sports columnist until he was 95.

Second, the role of J. Pierpont Finch in \*\*\*How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying \*\*\* (now being played by Daniel Radcliffe) was first played by Robert Morse, who also starred in the movie version.

DQ1: Are you European?

DQ2: Do you appear in multiple movies?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/51 "2011-08-03T02:47:19Z")

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1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. “M” is the initial of my first name
5. Movie character
6. Alive
7. Doesn’t appear in sci-fi movies
8. Not the hero
9. European
10. Did not appear in multiple movies

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/52 "2011-08-03T02:55:04Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ: Were you a U.S. Senator from Virginia in the 1970’s?

Actually, I messed this up – I was thinking of Andrew Miller, who was the Old Dominion’s Attorney General for most of that decade and then lost a close senatorial election to John (once Liz Taylor’s husband) Warner.

So I’ll try another IQ:

In the evenings, do you still sing with the band when you’re not staying at home doing your pretty face?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/53 "2011-08-03T07:09:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ: Do you have a Jackknife, fancy gloves and a line of whores waiting to pleasure you?
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> Dunno who this is, but he sounds like an interesting fellow! Ask a DQ.

You are not Mackie Messer, AKA Macheath, AKA Mac the Knife. And that shoud’ve been “waiting to pleasure him.”

DQ: Are you more famous than your companions?

IQ: Did you come to bury Caesar, not to praise him?

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/54 "2011-08-03T10:36:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Absolutely not! No one should be using any reference sources whatsoever, online or otherwise, in playing this game.

Good.

IQ: Were you executed by guillotine while facing upwards?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/55 "2011-08-03T11:34:28Z")

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DQ: Would your film be considered an American Hollywood production?  
(DQ #2 from Thelonious Monk and Monterone.)

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/56 "2011-08-03T11:47:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Never, ever heard of Michael Morpurgo!
> 
> Dunno about the bumbling assistant. Ask another DQ.

Sorry, probably another one of those Brit/Yank cultural divide things. But I don’t think that applies to Muttley, Dick Dastardly’s bumbling canine assistant, so I’ll take a DQ for that:

Did you first appear before 1970?

IQ: Did you make a film about eating nothing but fast food for a month?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/57 "2011-08-03T13:07:30Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> …I’ll try another IQ:
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> In the evenings, do you still sing with the band when you’re not staying at home doing your pretty face?

You got me. Ask a DQ.

> [@Johnny\_Q](#):
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> …DQ: Are you more famous than your companions?
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> IQ: Did you come to bury Caesar, not to praise him?

No, I’m not Mark Anthony from Shakespeare’s _Julius Caesar_.

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. “M” is the initial of my first name
5. Movie character
6. Alive
7. Doesn’t appear in sci-fi movies
8. Not the hero
9. European
10. Did not appear in multiple movies
11. Doesn’t have companions, as such

> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> IQ: Were you executed by guillotine while facing upwards?

Dunno. Ask a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/58 "2011-08-03T13:10:43Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> DQ: Would your film be considered an American Hollywood production?

> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> …[DQ:] Did you first appear before 1970?
> 
> IQ: Did you make a film about eating nothing but fast food for a month?

No, I’m not Morgan Spurlock of _Supersize Me_.

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. “M” is the initial of my first name
5. Movie character
6. Alive
7. Doesn’t appear in sci-fi movies
8. Not the hero
9. European
10. Did not appear in multiple movies
11. Doesn’t have companions, as such
12. Not in an American Hollywood production
13. Did not first appear before 1970

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/59 "2011-08-03T13:22:24Z")

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IQ: To some, are you a giant ogre with the magical ability to transform into everyday pre-industrial power plants?

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/60 "2011-08-03T13:23:20Z")

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> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> IQ: Were you executed by guillotine while facing upwards?

I was thinking of Maximilien Robespierre.

DQ: Are you british?

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