# Botticelli, Aug. 2011

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 1, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030 "2011-08-01T13:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/81 "2011-08-04T22:41:29Z")

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DQ: Does the film you appear in have a criminal element?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/82 "2011-08-05T03:46:19Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> …DQ: Was the film you were in produced between 1970 and 1985?

> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#):
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> DQ: Does the film you appear in have a criminal element?

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. “M” is the initial of my first name
5. Movie character
6. Alive
7. Doesn’t appear in sci-fi movies
8. Not the hero
9. European
10. Did not appear in multiple movies
11. Doesn’t have companions, as such
12. Not in an American Hollywood production
13. Did not first appear before 1970
14. British
15. Never killed anyone (as far as I know)
16. Movie not made in 21st century
17. Not a villain
18. Age indeterminate (but probably over 40, I’d say)
19. Not in an animated film
20. In a film produced between 1970-1985
21. There are criminals in the movie, in a way, but it’s not a crime movie by any means

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/83 "2011-08-05T19:56:37Z")

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I’ll give **Sternvogel** another 24 hours to ask his already-earned DQ. Then I’ll entertain direct “Are you [name]” questions from all those who’ve successfully earned a DQ in this round, until 9am EST Monday. If no one gets it by then, I’ll declare victory and start the next round. Thanks, sportsfans!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/84 "2011-08-05T21:31:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ll give **Sternvogel** another 24 hours to ask his already-earned DQ. Then I’ll entertain direct “Are you [name]” questions from all those who’ve successfully earned a DQ in this round, until 9am EST Monday. If no one gets it by then, I’ll declare victory and start the next round. Thanks, sportsfans!

Just to be clear, one “Are you [name]” question per DQ, or one “Are you [name]” question per person who stumped you?

In other words, do I get only one “Are you [name]” question?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/85 "2011-08-06T02:20:14Z")

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Per person. You would get one.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/86 "2011-08-06T02:59:31Z")

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> [@Sternvogel](#):
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> IQ: Were you a Mattel astronaut?

This would be Major Matt Mason.

DQ: Would this movie be considered a comedy?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/87 "2011-08-07T04:41:11Z")

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1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. “M” is the initial of my first name
5. Movie character
6. Alive
7. Doesn’t appear in sci-fi movies
8. Not the hero
9. European
10. Did not appear in multiple movies
11. Doesn’t have companions, as such
12. Not in an American Hollywood production
13. Did not first appear before 1970
14. British
15. Never killed anyone (as far as I know)
16. Movie not made in 21st century
17. Not a villain
18. Age indeterminate (but probably over 40, I’d say)
19. Not in an animated film
20. In a film produced between 1970-1985
21. There are criminals in the movie, in a way, but it’s not a crime movie by any means
22. In a comedy

OK. Let the “Are you [name]?” questions begin, one each for those players who’d already earned a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/88 "2011-08-08T02:47:51Z")

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I’m sorry; despite the fact that there aren’t that many British comedies in that 1970 - 1985 period, and despite the fact that I’m sure I’ve seen whatever this is and just can’t think of a character’s name, I’m totally stumped and can’t come up with a guess that’s even worth the name. What was Peter Sellars’ character’s name in ‘The Magic Christian’? What was Malcolm McDowell’s character’s name in ‘O Lucky Man’? Could it be a Python that I haven’t thought of? What was Michael Palin’s character’s name in ‘Jabberwocky’?

Anyway, having thrown those possibilities out to the Great Hive Mind that is the Dope, I pass on the offer of a question and salute you, **Elendil’s Heir**. The Dúnadan has a formidable intellect, as we have always known.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/89 "2011-08-08T14:38:17Z")

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I’m stumped. I’m wondering if the film spun off from a TV series.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/90 "2011-08-08T15:18:44Z")

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I’ll extend the deadline through Weds. 9am EST. You can do it!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/91 "2011-08-10T14:47:19Z")

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Oh, all right.

I’m Mr. Creosote, the extraordinarily large and disgustingly-vomitous gourmand from Monty Python’s (good instincts, **Le Ministre** ) _The Meaning of Life_.

> **[Mr Creosote](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Creosote)**
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> Mr. Creosote is a fictional character who appears in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life. He is a monstrously obese and rude restaurant patron who is served a vast amount of food and alcohol whilst vomiting repeatedly. After being persuaded to eat an after-dinner mint – "It's only wafer-thin" – he graphically explodes. The sequence opens the film's segment titled "Part VI: The Autumn Years".
> The character is played by Terry Jones, who directed the film. According to Jones, John Cleese, who pla...

Yes, “Mr.” really is his first name: [http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0027888/bio](http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0027888/bio)  
Not for the faint of heart: [Mr Creosote Monty Python - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_24rmOoCjU&feature=fvst)

Next letter: “R.”

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/92 "2011-08-10T17:43:56Z")

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Well, that was tricksy. Where does that bit of Python trivia come from please?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/93 "2011-08-10T18:44:06Z")

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Which bit?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/94 "2011-08-10T18:47:36Z")

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I think it’s a fair win - I knew of the character (and his name, though I suppose the tricksy bit was knowing (or thinking) that “Mr” was his actual first name) and I’m by no means a Python fan. All the questions were answered fairly. I think it was hard to get because when thinking of movie characters, everyone tends to think of more of a traditional type film.

Next round IQ: Are you famous for winning the top event in your sport 3 times, and your name reversed is a crime?

IQ: Are a famous British film director whose brother is, if anything, even better known for his nature programmes?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/95 "2011-08-10T18:52:42Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> …Next round IQ: Are you famous for winning the top event in your sport 3 times, and your name reversed is a crime?
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> IQ: Are a famous British film director whose brother is, if anything, even better known for his nature programmes?

Dunno about the first. Ask a DQ.

No, I’m not Sir Richard Attenborough (sp?).

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/96 "2011-08-10T18:58:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno about the first. Ask a DQ.
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> No, I’m not Sir Richard Attenborough (sp?).

First one was Red Rum, 3 times winner of the Grand National horse race. Perhaps a bit cheeky to pick a non-human, but unless that is against the rules, I think it counts (to my mind “Donald Duck” would be a perfectly acceptable choice, for example). Good on Sir Richard (and right on the spelling, I believe).

DQ: Alive?

IQ: Did you die in suspicious circumstances having stolen huge amounts from your company’s pension scheme?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/97 "2011-08-10T21:06:27Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> DQ: Alive?
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> IQ: Did you die in suspicious circumstances having stolen huge amounts from your company’s pension scheme?

1. Dead

Dunno about the thief, either, although I’m sure I’ll recognize the name.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/98 "2011-08-10T21:58:34Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Which bit?

Mr being his first name.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/99 "2011-08-10T22:14:58Z")

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IQ: Do you get No Respect?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2011/591030/100 "2011-08-11T00:43:59Z")

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When not singing hard rock, do you travel through the Amazon with a group called the Jungle Studs?

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