# Botticelli -- Aug 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 28, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645 "2020-07-28T21:40:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 18

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/341 "2020-08-23T18:47:58Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with J
5. Not known from the Arts
6. Not American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1950
9. Died after 1800
10. Known for science
11. European
12. Native speaker of a Germanic Language
13. Died before 1900

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/342 "2020-08-23T18:48:51Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you employ Betty Brant, Robbie Robertson, Frederick Foswell, Glory Grant, Ned Leeds, and Ben Urich at your newspaper?
> 2. Have you made a career out of playing Saddam Hussein, e.g. in _Hot Shots!_ and _The Big Lebowski_ ?
> 3. Did you record a TV campaign ad for your husband in Spanish, in 1960?

#1. I am not J. Jonah Jameson.  
#2. Take a DQ.  
#3. I am not Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis (??).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/343 "2020-08-23T19:59:50Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you own the _Victura_? - JFK: [https://jfkhyannismuseum.org/jfk-and-victura/](https://jfkhyannismuseum.org/jfk-and-victura/)  
Were you buried at sea from the deck of a U.S. Navy warship, by special order of President Clinton? - JFK Jr., who would otherwise not have been entitled to the honor  
Did you command the USS _Monitor_ in her most famous battle? - Lt. John L. Worden, at the 1862 Battle of Hampton Roads

John x3!

DQs:

Born in or east of Vienna?  
Born in or south of Vienna?  
Inventor?

IQs:

Did Michael Fassbender play you in _A Dangerous Method_?  
Were you a U.S. senator who got a big conference center named after him?  
Did you receive the first surgical sex-change operation?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/344 "2020-08-23T20:27:30Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:341, topic:916645, full:true”]  
DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with J
5. Not known from the Arts
6. Not American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1950
9. Died after 1800
10. Known for science
11. European
12. Native speaker of a Germanic Language
13. Died before 1900
14. Born west of Vienna
15. Born south of Vienna
16. Inventor

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/345 "2020-08-23T20:28:20Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did Michael Fassbender play you in _A Dangerous Method_ ?  
> Were you a U.S. senator who got a big conference center named after him?  
> Did you receive the first surgical sex-change operation?

#3. I am not Christine Jorgenson. Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/346 "2020-08-24T02:28:22Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> #1. I am not J. Jonah Jameson.  
> #2. Take a DQ.  
> #3. I am not Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis (??).

1 was correct; 2 was Jerry Haleva; 3 was correct.

DQ: invention created before 1850?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/347 "2020-08-24T11:16:14Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with J
5. Not known from the Arts
6. Not American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1950
9. Died after 1800
10. Known for science
11. European
12. Native speaker of a Germanic Language
13. Died before 1900
14. Born west of Vienna
15. Born south of Vienna
16. Inventor
17. Invention created before 1850

One point: I wouldn’t have necessarily called his creation an “invention” , but Wikipedia does.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/348 "2020-08-24T13:31:07Z")

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IQs:

Did Michael Fassbender play you in _A Dangerous Method_? - Carl Jung  
Were you a U.S. senator who got a big conference center named after him? - Jacob Javits of NY, in NYC itself  
Did you receive the first surgical sex-change operation? - Yes, Christine Jorgenson

DQs:

Conceptual rather than tangible invention?

One DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/349 "2020-08-24T15:37:53Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with J
5. Not known from the Arts
6. Not American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1950
9. Died after 1800
10. Known for science
11. European
12. Native speaker of a Germanic Language
13. Died before 1900
14. Born west of Vienna
15. Born south of Vienna
16. Inventor
17. Invention created before 1850
18. Conceptual use of an existing tangible property

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/350 "2020-08-24T16:03:08Z")

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DQ:

Made significant money off his invention?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/351 "2020-08-24T16:24:09Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with J
5. Not known from the Arts
6. Not American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1950
9. Died after 1800
10. Known for science
11. European
12. Native speaker of a Germanic Language
13. Died before 1900
14. Born west of Vienna
15. Born south of Vienna
16. Inventor
17. Invention created before 1850
18. Conceptual use of an existing tangible property
19. He was given substantial royal grants to continue to work on the invention, but otherwise considered it a work of philanthropy.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/352 "2020-08-24T22:16:55Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with J
5. Not known from the Arts
6. Not American
7. Not political/military
8. Died before 1950
9. Died after 1800
10. Known for science
11. European
12. Native speaker of a Germanic Language
13. Died before 1900
14. Born west of Vienna
15. Born south of Vienna
16. Inventor
17. Invention created before 1850
18. Conceptual use of an existing tangible property
19. He was given substantial royal grants to continue to work on the invention, but otherwise considered it a work of philanthropy.]  
a19… His invention was in the field of medicine.

Added for the sake of fair play.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/353 "2020-08-25T14:11:50Z")

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Hmm. Not sure who this is…

IQs:

Were you a scientist who had the same last name as a noted American Olympian of the 1970s?  
Were you the cranky lawyer in Heinlein’s _Stranger in a Strange Land_?  
Was your son employed by Frederick the Great, whom you once met?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/354 "2020-08-25T14:48:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a scientist who had the same last name as a noted American Olympian of the 1970s?

Yes, I am **Edward Jenner** , Father of Immunology, and Inventor of the Vaccine.

Well done, EH!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/355 "2020-08-25T14:54:54Z")

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Thanks! Good one, **Prof. P**. But he was born in England - isn’t that north of Vienna?: [Edward Jenner - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/356 "2020-08-25T15:05:23Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you the cranky lawyer in Heinlein’s _Stranger in a Strange Land_? - Jubal Harshaw  
Was your son employed by Frederick the Great, whom you once met? - J.S. Bach, whose son C.P.E. Bach worked for the Prussian king; Bach the elder and the king even performed some chamber music together during his visit.

Our next letter is

# V

And an update: [Botticelli - the letters we've used so far - #67 by Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-the-letters-weve-used-so-far/619048/67)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/357 "2020-08-25T15:13:48Z")

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IQ1: Did your grandfather invent a type of baking powder?  
IQ2: Did you play Ann Romano’s daughter?  
IQ3: Were you a noted Portuguese explorer?

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And an update: [Botticelli - the letters we’ve used so far](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-the-letters-weve-used-so-far/619048/67)

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/358 "2020-08-25T15:13:49Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks! Good one, **Prof. P**. But he was born in England - isn’t that north of Vienna?: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward\_Jenner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner)

Vienna - 48.20254° N, 16.3688° E  
London - 51.500153° N, -0.1262362° E

Yep. My error.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/359 "2020-08-25T15:15:18Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Vienna - 48.20254° N, 16.3688° E  
> London - 51.500153° N, -0.1262362° E
> 
> Yep. My error.

Berkeley – 51.691° N

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/360 "2020-08-25T15:15:44Z")

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Argh. Double error. I was just working at fixing that.

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