# Botticelli -- Aug 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 28, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645 "2020-07-28T21:40:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/61 "2020-08-01T15:01:01Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a noted 20th-century American dancer and choreographer?  
> IQ2: Did you come between Edward and Mary?  
> IQ3: Were your husband’s original names Hiram Ulysses?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> 1. I am not George Ballantine.
> 2. I am not George I (??)
> 3. I am not Mrs. Grant.

Not whom I had in mind, but…  
Lady Jane Grey.  
✅ (Julia)

Died after 1950?

IQ1: Were you a noted 20th-century female American dancer and choreographer?  
IQ2: Did you marry Mary of Teck?  
IQ3: Did you marry Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/62 "2020-08-01T16:18:30Z")

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**SCAdian** , you can rephrase for the “Not whom I had in mind” question, if you like.

Previous IQs:

Were you maybe an orc general, but maybe not? - Gothmog, one of Sauron’s otherwise-undescribed lieutenants in _LOTR_  
Were you the Lady of Lothlorien? - Yes, Galadriel the Elf  
Were you her biggest, but shortest, admirer? - Yes, Gimil the Dwarf

DQ:

American?

IQs:

Were you but a humble tailor on DS9?  
Did you play gentleman bank-robber Jack Foley in an Elmore Leonard adaptation?  
Were you Chuck Yeager’s sweetie back in the day?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/63 "2020-08-01T16:21:19Z")

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Psst–hey, Prof.–you missed my IQs in post #57.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/64 "2020-08-01T16:31:03Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you played by Margaret Hamilton in _The Wizard of Oz_ ?
> 2. Remember, remember…Is November 5th your day, in England?
> 3. Did you work on the 1980s _Twilight Zone_ and _Beauty and the Beast_ , write a number of unmade TV pilots such as _Starport_ , and then decide to focus on novels?

1. I am not Elmyra Gulch.
2. I am not Guy Fawkes.
3. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/65 "2020-08-01T16:32:33Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:60, topic:916645”]  
DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with G
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. American
7. Died after 1950

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/66 "2020-08-01T16:33:42Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you a noted 20th-century female American dancer and choreographer?  
> IQ2: Did you marry Mary of Teck?  
> IQ3: Did you marry Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon?

Take 3 DQs.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you but a humble tailor on DS9?  
> Did you play gentleman bank-robber Jack Foley in an Elmore Leonard adaptation?  
> Were you Chuck Yeager’s sweetie back in the day?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/67 "2020-08-01T16:43:06Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you but a humble tailor on DS9? - Garak, the Cardassian semi-reformed spy on _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_  
Did you play gentleman bank-robber Jack Foley in an Elmore Leonard adaptation? - George Clooney, in _Out of Sight_ (great movie BTW)  
Were you Chuck Yeager’s sweetie back in the day? - The namesake of this jet, the _Glamorous Glennis_: [Bell X-1 - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_X-1)

DQs:

Actress?  
Considered a beauty?  
Won a top award in her field?

IQs:

Are you the best-known person to hail from New Rumley, Ohio?  
Did Hugh Laurie suggest the title of your best-known song?  
Are you the person who sang it in a recent hit movie?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/68 "2020-08-01T17:02:01Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:65, topic:916645”]  
DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with G
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. American
7. Died after 1950
8. Actress
9. Considered a beauty
10. Won at least one top award in her field

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/69 "2020-08-01T17:02:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Are you the best-known person to hail from New Rumley, Ohio?  
> Did Hugh Laurie suggest the title of your best-known song?  
> Are you the person who sang it in a recent hit movie?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/70 "2020-08-01T18:08:26Z")

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Previous IQs:

Are you the best-known person to hail from New Rumley, Ohio? - George Armstrong Custer  
Did Hugh Laurie suggest the title of your best-known song? - King George III, “You’ll Be Back,” in _Hamilton_  
Are you the person who sang it in a recent hit movie? - Jonathan Groff

DQs:

Best known for films?  
Died after 2000?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Did you give a three-sentence speech at a political dinner in your honor?  
Were you security chief on Babylon 5?  
Did Ed Harris play you in _The Right Stuff_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/71 "2020-08-01T18:18:37Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> 1. I am not Elmyra Gulch.
> 2. I am not Guy Fawkes.
> 3. Take a DQ.

3 (worked on the 1980s _Twilight Zone_ and _Beauty and the Beast_, wrote some unmade TV pilots, decided to focus on novels) was George R.R. Martin.

One DQ reserved.

IQs:  
1. Are you the businessman/banker suspect in Clue?  
2. Are you the creation of Art Clokey?  
3. Were you born Goyathlay, though you’re better known by a Spanish name?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/72 "2020-08-01T20:29:04Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you a noted 20th-century female American dancer and choreographer?  
> IQ2: Did you marry Mary of Teck?  
> IQ3: Did you marry Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> Take 3 DQs.

Martha Graham.  
George V.  
George VI.

DQ1: Notable husband?  
Two DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/73 "2020-08-01T20:52:55Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:68, topic:916645”]  
DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with G
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. American
7. Died after 1950
8. Actress
9. Considered a beauty
10. Won at least one top award in her field
11. Best known for films
12. Died before 2000
13. No notable husband

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/74 "2020-08-01T20:54:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you give a three-sentence speech at a political dinner in your honor?  
> Were you security chief on Babylon 5?  
> Did Ed Harris play you in _The Right Stuff_ ?

#1. I am not Galvin Goolidge. Okay, take a DQ.  
#2. Take a DQ.  
#3. I am not Gus Grissom. (??)

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you the businessman/banker suspect in Clue?
> 2. Are you the creation of Art Clokey?
> 3. Were you born Goyathlay, though you’re better known by a Spanish name?

#1. I am not Mr. Green.  
#2. I am not Gumby.  
#3. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/75 "2020-08-01T20:55:28Z")

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DQ1: Died after 1975?  
DQ2: Best known for comedies?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/76 "2020-08-01T20:59:33Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with G
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. American
7. Died after 1950
8. Actress
9. Considered a beauty
10. Won at least one top award in her field
11. Best known for films
12. Died before 2000
13. No notable husband
14. Died after 1975
15. Not really known for comedies

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/77 "2020-08-01T21:10:37Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you give a three-sentence speech at a political dinner in your honor? - Golda Meir. It ran very long, the story goes, and she got up at the end and flatly said, “It’s late. We’re all tired. Let’s go home.”  
Were you security chief on Babylon 5? - Michael Garibaldi  
Did Ed Harris play you in _The Right Stuff_ ? - Not Gus Grissom, but John Glenn (a strong resemblance, too)

DQs:

Won an Oscar?  
Greatest fame before 1945?

Two DQs reserved.

IQs:

Were you an actress with the same name, plus one letter, as an actor renowned for playing a grandfather?  
Have you played a lover, a nurse, a hotel worker and the Vice President of the United States?  
Were you mentioned in a _New Yorker_ cartoon about the Hitler-diary hoax?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/78 "2020-08-01T21:12:22Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:76, topic:916645, full:true”]  
DQs:

1. Real
2. Female
3. Last name starts with G
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. American
7. Died after 1950
8. Actress
9. Considered a beauty
10. Won at least one top award in her field
11. Best known for films
12. Died before 2000
13. No notable husband
14. Died after 1975
15. Not really known for comedies
16. Won an Honorary Academy Award
17. Greatest fame before 1945

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/79 "2020-08-01T21:13:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you an actress with the same name, plus one letter, as an actor renowned for playing a grandfather?  
> Have you played a lover, a nurse, a hotel worker and the Vice President of the United States?  
> Were you mentioned in a _New Yorker_ cartoon about the Hitler-diary hoax?

Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-aug-2020/916645/80 "2020-08-01T21:23:09Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you an actress with the same name, plus one letter, as an actor renowned for playing a grandfather? - Germaine Greer / Will Geer from _The Waltons_  
Have you played a lover, a nurse, a hotel worker and the Vice President of the United States? - Glenn Close, in _Fatal Attraction, The World According to Garp, Albert Nobbs_ and _Air Force One_  
Were you mentioned in a _New Yorker_ cartoon about the Hitler-diary hoax? - The cartoon showed a bunch of tweedy academics sitting around a conference table with ivy growing on the walls outside. One of them is reading aloud from a thick manuscript, “When I conquer America I must meet the actress Betty Grable. What a tomato!”

DQ:

Known for the manner of her death?  
Won her Oscar before 1955?

Three DQs reserved.

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