# Botticelli - August 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 5, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053 "2015-08-05T12:08:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 26

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/501 "2015-09-01T23:29:30Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Okay, it’s not Mr. Whipple or the Maytag Repair Man (I think)…
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you the protagonist of _The Book of the Dun Cow_?
> 2. Is the racecourse where the Kentucky Derby is held named for you? (need a first name here)
> 3. Were you the It Girl?

> [@astorian](#):
>
> Not Clara Bow.
> 
> Not… John Churchill? (Gotta say something!)
> 
> Take a DQ for 1

#1 is Chanticleer.  
#2 is either John or Henry Churchill, brothers.  
#3 is correct.

DQ: Did you appear as yourself in a commercial, rather than playing a role?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/502 "2015-09-02T03:10:19Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with C
4. Dead
5. Died after 1900
6. Not involved in the arts (though I’m best known to fans of one particular art form)
7. Died before 2000
8. Not involved in politics
9. An American citizen, but born and raised elsewhere
10. Had a popular image as a good guy (SEEMED like a good guy in real life, but who knows?)
11. Common first name
12. Famous for selling a product or service; but it’s very hard to categorize the product or service neatly
13. Appeared as myself in many advertisements, but NOT on television

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/503 "2015-09-02T14:26:35Z")

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Inventors

IQ1: Did you found analytic psychology, advancing the idea of introvert and extrovert personalities and the power of the unconscious?  
IQ2: Are you an aptly-named poet who invented the brassiere in 1913?  
IQ3: Did you invent the first system to control temperature and humidity in 1902?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/504 "2015-09-02T15:20:35Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the father of _All In The Family’s_ Meathead?
2. Were you a fictitious son that W. C. Fields invented for his radio show?
3. Did you feud with W. C. Fields on radio?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/505 "2015-09-03T00:02:49Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Inventors
> 
> IQ1: Did you found analytic psychology, advancing the idea of introvert and extrovert personalities and the power of the unconscious?  
> IQ2: Are you an aptly-named poet who invented the brassiere in 1913?  
> IQ3: Did you invent the first system to control temperature and humidity in 1902?

Not Carl Jung or Willis Carrier

Take a DQ for 2

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/506 "2015-09-03T00:13:26Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the father of _All In The Family’s_ Meathead?
> 2. Were you a fictitious son that W. C. Fields invented for his radio show?
> 3. Did you feud with W. C. Fields on radio?

DQ for 2

Not Carl Reiner or Charlie McCarthy

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/507 "2015-09-03T02:26:39Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the father of _All In The Family’s_ Meathead?
> 2. Were you a fictitious son that W. C. Fields invented for his radio show?
> 3. Did you feud with W. C. Fields on radio?

> [@astorian](#):
>
> DQ for 2
> 
> Not Carl Reiner or Charlie McCarthy

Correct on both.  
W. C. Fields had a radio show sponsored by Lucky Strike cigarettes. They were none too amused when Bill started talking about his son Chester Fields.

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/508 "2015-09-03T02:44:31Z")

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From before the page turn:

# SUMMARY

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with C
4. Dead
5. Died after 1900
6. Not involved in the arts (though I’m best known to fans of one particular art form)
7. Died before 2000
8. Not involved in politics
9. An American citizen, but born and raised elsewhere
10. Had a popular image as a good guy (SEEMED like a good guy in real life, but who knows?)
11. Common first name
12. Famous for selling a product or service; but it’s very hard to categorize the product or service neatly
13. Dance fans are NOT the art lovers who know me best.
14. Died after 1960

Added:  
15. Appeared as myself in many advertisements, but NOT on television

DQ: Known for radio?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/509 "2015-09-03T03:39:09Z")

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# UMMARY

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with C
4. Dead
5. Died after 1900
6. Not involved in the arts (though I’m best known to fans of one particular art form)
7. Died before 2000
8. Not involved in politics
9. An American citizen, but born and raised elsewhere
10. Had a popular image as a good guy (SEEMED like a good guy in real life, but who knows?)
11. Common first name
12. Famous for selling a product or service; but it’s very hard to categorize the product or service neatly
13. Dance fans are NOT the art lovers who know me best.
14. Died after 1960
15. Appeared as myself in many advertisements, but NOT on television
16. Not known for radio appearances

As I noted earlier, this person had no direct involvement in any of the arts… but there is one particular art medium whose fans know HIM very WELL.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/510 "2015-09-03T03:51:37Z")

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Heh. “Radio appearances.”

Previous IQs:

Are you Duke of Rothesay? - Yes, Prince Charles.  
Did you marry your first cousin, who worried about your soul? - Yes, Charles Darwin.  
Were you an already-famous person who survived a terrible trainwreck? - Charles Dickens: [Staplehurst rail crash - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staplehurst_rail_crash)

DQ:

White?

IQs:

Were you a fire-and-brimstone early president of Oberlin College?  
Was an entire country once named for you, but later renamed?  
Were you Nelson’s #2 guy at Trafalgar?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/511 "2015-09-03T13:14:57Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write the hymn “Pass Me Not, O Gentle Savior”?
2. Did you write the hymn “There Is A Fountain Filled With Blood”?
3. Did you write the hymn “My Song Is Love Unknown”?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/512 "2015-09-03T13:43:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Did you found analytic psychology, advancing the idea of introvert and extrovert personalities and the power of the unconscious?  
> IQ2: Are you an aptly-named poet who invented the brassiere in 1913?  
> IQ3: Did you invent the first system to control temperature and humidity in 1902?
> 
> Not Carl Jung or Willis Carrier
> 
> Take a DQ for 2

Caresse Crosby

holding 2 DQs

IQ: Did you and Abraham Anderson start a canned preserves company that eventually became known for condensed soup?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/513 "2015-09-03T14:21:29Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real
2. Male
3. First name starts with C
4. Dead
5. Died after 1900
6. Not involved in the arts (though I’m best known to fans of one particular art form)
7. Died before 2000
8. Not involved in politics
9. An American citizen, but born and raised elsewhere
10. Had a popular image as a good guy (SEEMED like a good guy in real life, but who knows?)
11. Common first name
12. Famous for selling a product or service; but it’s very hard to categorize the product or service neatly
13. Dance fans are NOT the art lovers who know me best.
14. Died after 1960
15. Appeared as myself in many advertisements, but NOT on television
16. Not known from radio
17. Caucasian

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/514 "2015-09-03T14:22:33Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you a fire-and-brimstone early president of Oberlin College?  
> Was an entire country once named for you, but later renamed?  
> Were you Nelson’s #2 guy at Trafalgar?

Not Cecil Rhodes

DQs for 1 and 3

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/515 "2015-09-03T14:24:21Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write the hymn “Pass Me Not, O Gentle Savior”?
> 2. Did you write the hymn “There Is A Fountain Filled With Blood”?
> 3. Did you write the hymn “My Song Is Love Unknown”?

No idea on 1

Or 2

Or 3  
Dang, and it’s not as if I don’t go to church!!! Swept again!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/516 "2015-09-03T16:21:22Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write the hymn “Pass Me Not, O Gentle Savior”?
> 2. Did you write the hymn “There Is A Fountain Filled With Blood”?
> 3. Did you write the hymn “My Song Is Love Unknown”?

> [@astorian](#):
>
> No idea on 1
> 
> Or 2
> 
> Or 3  
> Dang, and it’s not as if I don’t go to church!!! Swept again!

Well, I am one of the very few hymnal collectors I know.

They are, in order, Fanny Crosby, William Cowper and Samuel Crossman.

3 DQs reserved.

This is a tricky one…

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/517 "2015-09-03T16:38:47Z")

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It may be tricky, but I have good reason to think most of the regular players have seen this guy’s picture many times.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/518 "2015-09-03T18:30:39Z")

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n/m

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/519 "2015-09-03T18:57:19Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a fire-and-brimstone early president of Oberlin College? - Charles Grandison Finney (the story goes that he was opposed to having female students, but that was already a _fait accompli_. One day he greeted a pretty young student by thundering, “Good morning, daughter of the Devil!” She sweetly replied, “Good morning, Father.”)  
Was an entire country once named for you, but later renamed? - Yes, Cecil Rhodes of Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.  
Were you Nelson’s #2 guy at Trafalgar? - Adm. Cuthbert Collingwood.

Still dunno who this is. I yield my two earned DQs to whoever would like to ask them, one per customer.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2015/727053/520 "2015-09-03T20:00:37Z")

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Okay, BESIDES TV and radio, what art medium has both a lot of SDMB fans and a lot of advertising?

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