# Botticelli - August 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 1, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593 "2017-08-01T20:00:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/381 "2017-08-30T21:12:17Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you long feud with your sister, another actress?  
> Were you an early female member of the U.S. Cabinet?  
> Were you an animal who wanted to be another kind of animal?

1. I am not Olivia de Havilland.  
Take a DQ for #2.
2. I am not Olive “the other reindeer”.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/382 "2017-08-30T21:23:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Separate, I’d say. Prose, to me, is novels and short stories; drama (or more broadly, the theater) is just the opposite of comedy. Plays are part of the theater.

I’d say Tragedy is the opposite of Comedy, and they can both be drama. IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/383 "2017-08-31T00:04:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you currently the longest-serving Republican Senator in U.S. history?  
> IQ2: Were you recently criticized for not opening your church’s doors to flood victims in Texas?  
> IQ3: Were you frequently the grand marshal of Valparaiso Indiana’s Popcorn Parade?
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> 1. I am not Orrin Hatch.
> 2. I am not Joel Osteen.  
> Take a DQ for #3.

Orville Reddenbacher!

DQ: From Shakespeare?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/384 "2017-08-31T01:23:55Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Not American
4. Created before 1900
5. European
6. Considered a good guy
7. Only appeared in one work
8. From a play
9. Not British
10. Written by a Brit
11. Only name starts with O
12. From Shakespeare

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/385 "2017-08-31T11:38:12Z")

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IQ: Are you a Moorish general in the Venetian army?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/386 "2017-08-31T11:48:47Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ: Are you a Moorish general in the Venetian army?

I am not Othello.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/387 "2017-08-31T14:15:11Z")

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IQ: Are you king of the fairies in _Midsummer Night’s Dream_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/388 "2017-08-31T14:28:55Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ: Are you king of the fairies in _Midsummer Night’s Dream_?

I am not Oberon.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/389 "2017-08-31T14:42:42Z")

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Thought it was Othello (or Oberon, who I played in high school) for sure!

Previous IQs:

Did you long feud with your sister, another actress? - Yes, Olivia de Haviland  
Were you an early female member of the U.S. Cabinet? - Olivetta Culp Hobby (sp?), who I think served in Ike’s Cabinet  
Were you an animal who wanted to be another kind of animal? - Yes, the title character (a dog) of _Olive, the Other Reindeer_

DQ:

From a comedy?

IQs:

Were you a duke at Agincourt?  
Did you hang out in Verona?  
Were you a Shakespearean character with the same name as a New Orleans-born assassin?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/390 "2017-08-31T14:46:00Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Not American
4. Created before 1900
5. European
6. Considered a good guy
7. Only appeared in one work
8. From a play
9. Not British
10. Written by a Brit
11. Only name starts with O
12. From Shakespeare
13. From a comedy

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/391 "2017-08-31T14:48:29Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a duke at Agincourt?  
> Did you hang out in Verona?  
> Were you a Shakespearean character with the same name as a New Orleans-born assassin?

Take three DQs.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/392 "2017-08-31T15:37:19Z")

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IQ: Did the woman you loved fall in love with a woman who was disguised as a man and was in love with you?

I agree that plays are not prose fiction. While actors certainly belong in the performing arts, I’m not sure if I’d include playwrights in that group with them or put them in literature.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/393 "2017-08-31T15:41:33Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ: Did the woman you loved fall in love with a woman who was disguised as a man and was in love with you?
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> I agree that plays are not prose fiction. While actors certainly belong in the performing arts, I’m not sure if I’d include playwrights in that group with them or put them in literature.

Yes, I am Orlando from _As You Like It_.  
Not to be confused with Orlando from _Orlando Furioso_, Virginia Woolf’s Orlando, or Orlando Bloom.

Well done, SCAdian!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/394 "2017-08-31T16:00:04Z")

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Would any of you have remembered the character Osric from _Hamlet_? I thought about him, but he’s pretty obscure. (Robin Williams played him in the Kenneth Branagh movie version.)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/395 "2017-08-31T18:47:43Z")

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Yes, I remember Osric. I was in a college production of Hamlet as a guard. The fellow who played Osric portrayed him as a flamboyant fop, and we had to concentrate on not laughing when he took the stage. He would roll his R’s for the line “Rrrrrrapiers and Pointers!”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/396 "2017-08-31T19:24:53Z")

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He is a flamboyant fop. I think it’s in Shakespeare’s description of the character. It was a jab at Elizabethan courtiers of the day.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/397 "2017-08-31T22:14:14Z")

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I was actually thinking of Orsino, in _Twelfth Night_, but…

Oswy, yes. Osric, no. 😃

I am **P**.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/398 "2017-08-31T22:19:46Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you a loveable eccentric scientist from _The Adventures of Superman_?
2. Are you the actor who played him?
3. Did John Hamilton play you on _The Adventures of Superman_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/399 "2017-09-01T02:16:23Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you a loveable eccentric scientist from _The Adventures of Superman_?
> 2. Are you the actor who played him?
> 3. Did John Hamilton play you on _The Adventures of Superman_?

Not Professor Pepperwinkle.  
DQ.  
Not … Perry White?  
I really ought to know #2 by now, as often as you’ve asked it, but it’s late and I’m on my way to bed…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2017/792593/400 "2017-09-01T03:15:02Z")

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I had the name Osric bouncing around in my head but wasn’t sure he was from Shakespeare.

Previous IQs:

Were you a duke at Agincourt? - The Duke of Oxford, simply called “Oxford,” in _Henry V_  
Did you hang out in Verona? - This was Orontes, I think?  
Were you a Shakespearean character with the same name as a New Orleans-born assassin? - I thought there was an Oswald somewhere in the canon, too, but I may be wrong…

IQs:

Did you surrender Vicksburg?  
Were you a Baltimore homicide detective?  
Were you Truman’s longtime political patron?

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