# Botticelli August 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 3, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985 "2023-08-03T02:27:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 14

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/261 "2023-08-18T15:51:52Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Did you paint _The Birth of Venice_?
> > 2. Were you a French Impressionist painter who died in the Franco-Prussian war?
> > 3. Were you a character in the highly acclaimed, kangaroo-scented 1950’s BBC Radio series _The Goon Show_ who was also mentioned in passing in the movie _Shrek_?
> 
> 1. …if you mean _Venus_, I am not Botticelli.
> 2. Take a DQ.
> 3. I am not Minnie Bannister? If not Bannister, take a DQ.

Yeah, pfui, I meant Venus. Correct  
#2 was Frederic Bazille.  
#3 was Col. Bloodnok. When Shrek and Donkey are looking at the stars, Shrek points out constellations, and one of them he says is Bloodnok the Flatulent, with all the other stars running away in disgust.

DQs:

1. Created after 1950?
2. Originally from TV or movies?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/262 "2023-08-18T15:55:07Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you an iconic TV clown?
2. Did you most frequently have conversations with Eccles on the highly acclaimed helium-laminated 1950s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
3. Did you write _O Little Town Of Bethlehem_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/263 "2023-08-18T16:04:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you play a captive mom in _Room_?  
> When we first see you, are you playing chess by yourself?  
> Were you a prominent feminist Congresswoman?

Respectively:  
I am not Brie Larson.  
I am not Bran Stark.  
I am not Bella Abzug.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you an iconic TV clown?
> 2. Did you most frequently have conversations with Eccles on the highly acclaimed helium-laminated 1950s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> 3. Did you write _O Little Town Of Bethlehem_?

1. I am not Bozo.  
2. I am not Bluebottle.  
3. Take a DQ.

DQs:  
1. fictional  
2. female  
3. created after 1950  
4. has appeared in but not originally from TV and movies

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/264 "2023-08-18T17:10:25Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Were you married to Richard I of England?
> > 2. Were you an anti-apartheid activist beaten to death by South African security forces?
> > 3. Are you the sister of novelist Iris Murdoch, and the Booker Award-winning author of _Possession_, _The Djinn in the Nightingale’s Eye_, _The Virgin in the Garden_, _Angels and Insects_, and others?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. I am not Steve Biko.
> 3. I am not Beth Murdoch? If not Beth Murdoch, take a DQ.

Previous IQs:

1. was Berengaria of Navarre.
2. Correct, Steve Biko
3. is A.S. Byatt.

DQs:

1. Protagonist?
2. Good character?

New IQs:

1. Are you the daughter of a structural engineer, whose passed-on knowledge informs the design and function of the spaceships you describe in your space-opera series of novels?
2. By tradition, is your head buried under the White Tower in the Tower of London?
3. Did you make a song with your brother when you were fifteen, for a school music class project, that went viral and started a career that has earned you multiple Grammys and one Oscar?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/265 "2023-08-18T17:42:44Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you an iconic TV clown?
> > 2. Did you most frequently have conversations with Eccles on the highly acclaimed helium-laminated 1950s BBC radio series _The Goon Show_?
> > 3. Did you write _O Little Town Of Bethlehem_?
> 
> 1. I am not Bozo.
> 2. I am not Bluebottle.
> 3. Take a DQ.

Correct on Bozo (honk!)  
Correct on Lance Corporal Bluebottle (waits for applause… not a sausage).  
#3 was Phillips Brooks.

DQ: Last name starts with B?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/266 "2023-08-18T19:49:12Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you play a captive mom in _Room_? - Yes, Brie Larson  
When we first see you, are you playing chess by yourself? - Not Bran Stark, but Rick Blaine, in _Casablanca_  
Were you a prominent feminist Congresswoman? - Yes, Bella Abzug

DQ:

From genre fiction (Western, sf, detective, fantasy, etc.)?

IQs:

Did you sing “Circle in the Sand”?  
Were you Capt. Aubrey’s trusted coxswain?  
Did you succeed the Mad King after defeating him in a civil war?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/267 "2023-08-18T20:28:11Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> 1. Are you the daughter of a structural engineer, whose passed-on knowledge informs the design and function of the spaceships you describe in your space-opera series of novels?
> 2. By tradition, is your head buried under the White Tower in the Tower of London?
> 3. Did you make a song with your brother when you were fifteen, for a school music class project, that went viral and started a career that has earned you multiple Grammys and one Oscar?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. I am not Anne Boleyn.  
3. I am not Billie Eilish.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Did you sing “Circle in the Sand”?  
> Were you Capt. Aubrey’s trusted coxswain?  
> Did you succeed the Mad King after defeating him in a civil war?

Respectively:  
I am not Belinda Carlisle.  
I am not Bob Coxswain.  
I am not Bran Stark.

DQs:  
1. fictional  
2. female  
3. created after 1950  
4. has appeared in but not originally from TV and movies  
5. has been a protagonist  
6. good character  
7. first name starts with B  
8. has appeared in genre fiction (Western, SF, detective, fantasy, etc.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/268 "2023-08-18T21:19:40Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you sing “Circle in the Sand”? - Yes, Belinda Carlisle  
Were you Capt. Aubrey’s trusted coxswain? - Not Bob Coxswain (_that_ would’ve been too easy); 'twas Barret Bonden  
Did you succeed the Mad King after defeating him in a civil war? - Still not Bran Stark, but Robert Baratheon

DQs:

Sf/fantasy character?  
Considered a beauty?

IQs:

Was your advice to an undergrad to begin drinking heavily?  
Did you get into an argument with yourself in the pre-Civil War U.S. Army?  
Were you a scrappy female reporter in a newspaper cartoon strip?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/269 "2023-08-18T21:21:36Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > 1. Are you the daughter of a structural engineer, whose passed-on knowledge informs the design and function of the spaceships you describe in your space-opera series of novels?
> > 2. By tradition, is your head buried under the White Tower in the Tower of London?
> > 3. Did you make a song with your brother when you were fifteen, for a school music class project, that went viral and started a career that has earned you multiple Grammys and one Oscar?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. I am not Anne Boleyn.
> 3. I am not Billie Eilish

1 is Lois MacMaster Bujold, author of the Vorkosigan series of sci-fi novels.  
2 is Brân the Blessed, a Welsh demigod.  
3. Correct about Billie Eilish.

DQs:

1. Last name begins A - M?
2. Created after 1980?

IQs:

1. Are you one of the “Killer B’s”? (Four acceptable answers)
2. Were you the star of a 70’s sitcom that garnered controversy when your character got pregnant, and had an abortion?
3. Do your screen appearances usually elicit cries of “_Asshole!_”, and your fianceé’s, _“Slut!”_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/270 "2023-08-18T21:47:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Was your advice to an undergrad to begin drinking heavily?  
> Did you get into an argument with yourself in the pre-Civil War U.S. Army?  
> Were you a scrappy female reporter in a newspaper cartoon strip?

Respectively:  
I am not John “Bluto” Blutarsky.  
I am not Sergeant Bob Jekyll.  
I am not Brenda Starr.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you one of the “Killer B’s”? (Four acceptable answers)
> 2. Were you the star of a 70’s sitcom that garnered controversy when your character got pregnant, and had an abortion?
> 3. Do your screen appearances usually elicit cries of “_Asshole!_”, and your fianceé’s, _“Slut!”_?

1. I am John Belushi.  
2. I am not Bea Arthur.  
3. I am not Brad Majors.

DQs:  
1. fictional  
2. female  
3. created after 1950  
4. has appeared in but not originally from TV and movies  
5. has been a protagonist  
6. good character  
7. first name starts with B  
8. has appeared in genre fiction (Western, SF, detective, fantasy, etc.)  
9. not originally an SF/fantasy character but has sort of appeared in fantasy  
10. considered pretty  
11. last name begins from N-Z  
12. created before 1980

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/271 "2023-08-18T22:05:30Z")

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IQs:

1. Did your ghost haunt Collinwood on _Dark Shadows_?
2. Was Mr. O’Malley your fairy godfather?
3. Did Jonathan Stroud write a trilogy of books about you?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/272 "2023-08-18T22:19:59Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > Qs:
> > 
> > 1. Are you one of the “Killer B’s”? (Four acceptable answers)
> > 2. Were you the star of a 70’s sitcom that garnered controversy when your character got pregnant, and had an abortion?
> > 3. Do your screen appearances usually elicit cries of “_Asshole!_”, and your fianceé’s, _“Slut!”_?
> 
> 1. I am John Belushi.
> 2. I am not Bea Arthur.
> 3. I am not Brad Majors.

I was actually looking for one of the Houston Astros’ [“Killer B’s”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_B%27s_(Houston_Astros)#:~:text=Although%20there%20were%20several%20other,letter%20in%20their%20last%20names.) - Craig Biggio, Lance Berkman, Jeff Bagwell or Derek Bell. But John Belushi did play a killer bee, so you’ve swept me.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/273 "2023-08-19T13:00:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did your ghost haunt Collinwood on _Dark Shadows_?
> 2. Was Mr. O’Malley your fairy godfather?
> 3. Did Jonathan Stroud write a trilogy of books about you?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. I am not Barnaby.  
3. I am not Bartimaeus.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/274 "2023-08-19T13:41:35Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did your ghost haunt Collinwood on _Dark Shadows_?
> > 2. Was Mr. O’Malley your fairy godfather?
> > 3. Did Jonathan Stroud write a trilogy of books about you?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ.
> 2. I am not Barnaby.
> 3. I am not Bartimaeus.

#1 was Beth Chavez.  
Cushlamachree! Correct on the others.

DQ: Seen on TV?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/275 "2023-08-19T19:46:02Z")

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Previous IQs:

Was your advice to an undergrad to begin drinking heavily? - Yes, Bluto, in _Animal House_  
Did you get into an argument with yourself in the pre-Civil War U.S. Army? - This was the notoriously ornery Braxton Bragg, after whom Ft. Bragg was named; as supply officer, he officially protested a decision made in his other capacity as acting CO  
Were you a scrappy female reporter in a newspaper cartoon strip? - Yes, Brenda Starr

DQ:

Appeared in a Disney film?

IQs:

Have you been most recently played by a _Harry Potter_ actress?  
Did you lose at Petersburg?  
A notable writer, did you disappear in Mexico?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/276 "2023-08-19T20:46:11Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Have you been most recently played by a _Harry Potter_ actress?  
> Did you lose at Petersburg?  
> A notable writer, did you disappear in Mexico?

Respectively:  
I am not Belle.  
I am not General Burgy Peters.  
I am not Ambrose Bierce (whose disappearance I was reminded of right before this, because it was mentioned in the Time-Life book _[Vanishings](https://www.amazon.com/Vanishings-Library-Curious-Unusual-Facts/dp/0809476878)_ I saw today at the sidewalk book sale.).

DQs:  
1. fictional  
2. female  
3. created after 1950  
4. has appeared in but not originally from TV and movies  
5. has been a protagonist  
6. good character  
7. first name starts with B  
8. has appeared in genre fiction (Western, SF, detective, fantasy, etc.)  
9. not originally an SF/fantasy character but has sort of appeared in fantasy  
10. considered pretty  
11. last name begins from N-Z (though it’s rarely used)  
12. created before 1980  
13. has appeared on (streaming) TV  
14. has appeared in a Disney-owned film

Note addendum to answer #11.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/277 "2023-08-19T21:58:24Z")

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Previous IQs:

Have you been most recently played by a _Harry Potter_ actress? - Yes, Belle, by Emma Watson in _Beauty and the Beast_  
Did you lose at Petersburg? - Ambrose Burnside, in 1862  
A notable writer, did you disappear in Mexico? - Yes, another Ambrose, Bierce by name

DQ:

In a Disney film since 1990?

IQs:

Were you a winning coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers?  
Were you, too?  
Were you the Steelers’ star QB in the early Eighties?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/278 "2023-08-19T22:58:49Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a prominent French-American neo-expressionist painter, before dying of a heroin overdose at the age of 28?
2. Did you rig one of your paintings with a hidden shredder, that you activated when it sold for $1.4 million, destroying half the piece?
3. Are you one half of a pair of stock figures in jokes about Cajuns, equivalent to Ole and Lena for Scandinavians and Pat and Mike for Irish?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/279 "2023-08-20T00:42:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Were you a winning coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers?  
> Were you, too?  
> Were you the Steelers’ star QB in the early Eighties?

Respectively:  
Take a DQ.  
Take a DQ.  
I am not Brett Favre.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a prominent French-American neo-expressionist painter, before dying of a heroin overdose at the age of 28?
> 2. Did you rig one of your paintings with a hidden shredder, that you activated when it sold for $1.4 million, destroying half the piece?
> 3. Are you one half of a pair of stock figures in jokes about Cajuns, equivalent to Ole and Lena for Scandinavians and Pat and Mike for Irish?

1. Take a DQ.  
2. I am not Banksy.  
3. I am not Bernard?

DQs:  
1. fictional  
2. female  
3. created after 1950  
4. has appeared in but not originally from TV and movies  
5. has been a protagonist  
6. good character  
7. first name starts with B  
8. has appeared in genre fiction (Western, SF, detective, fantasy, etc.)  
9. not originally an SF/fantasy character but has sort of appeared in fantasy  
10. considered pretty  
11. last name begins from N-Z (though it’s rarely used)  
12. created before 1980  
13. has appeared on (streaming) TV  
14. has appeared in a Disney-owned film  
15. appeared in Disney-owned films after 1990

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/280 "2023-08-20T00:56:21Z")

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IQ1: Did you marry the former Miss Boopadoop?  
IQ2: Was your husband, a comic-strip character, disinherited by his wealthy parents for marrying beneath his class?  
IQ3: Were you originally known as Baby Dumpling?

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