# Botticelli August 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 3, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985 "2023-08-03T02:27:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/21 "2023-08-04T00:39:45Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I should know this and will remember it when i see it but take a DQ

Two hours later the name Aims (sp?) popped into my head but its too late so I’m not revoking your DQ,

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> DQs:
> 
> 1. Are you John Cleese’s character in _A Fish Named Wanda_?
> 2. Were you married to Ernie Kovacs?
> 3. Did Rob Petrie work for you?

3 more DQs

DQs

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/22 "2023-08-04T03:06:30Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you a musician most famous for an 18 minute, 34 second song that many rock stations play on Thanksgiving?
> 2. Do you own Garfield?
> 3. Are you the mother of Peter, Paige and Jason in a comic strip?

Correct (though it is Guthrie, not Gutherie), Jon Arbuckle, Andy (Andrea) Fox.

DQs:

1. Caucasian?
2. From a genre?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/23 "2023-08-04T13:28:07Z")

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IQs:

1. Did your novella _The Djinn in the Nightingale’s Eye_ get adapted into the movie _Three Thousand Years of Longing_, with Tilda Swinton and Idris Elba?

2. Did you overcome a previous conviction for possession with intent to distribute cocaine, to become a successful stand-up comic and sitcom star?

3. Was farm livin’ the life for a character you portrayed in a sitcom, one of whose co-stars was a pig?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/24 "2023-08-04T13:38:34Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > DQs:
> > 
> > 1. Are you John Cleese’s character in _A Fish Named Wanda_?
> > 2. Were you married to Ernie Kovacs?
> > 3. Did Rob Petrie work for you?
> 
> 3 more DQs

#1 is Archibald Leach (which was Cary Grant’s original name).  
#2 was Edie Adams.  
#3 was Alan Brady on _The Dick van Dyke Show_.

5 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/25 "2023-08-04T17:24:49Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I thought I was pretty knowledgeable on the comic book front

IQs:  
1. Were you a (non-criminal) personal hero of Lex Luthor?  
2. Did Julius Caesar give the retired soldier Tremensdelerius your village?  
3. Were you, your husband Marko, and your daughter Hazel on the run from the armies of Wreath and Landfall in _Saga_?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/26 "2023-08-04T17:45:15Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did your novella _The Djinn in the Nightingale’s Eye_ get adapted into the movie _Three Thousand Years of Longing_, with Tilda Swinton and Idris Elba?
> 2. Did you overcome a previous conviction for possession with intent to distribute cocaine, to become a successful stand-up comic and sitcom star?
> 3. Was farm livin’ the life for a character you portrayed in a sitcom, one of whose co-stars was a pig?

1. Take a DQ  
2.I’m not Tim Allen, which I only know because of recently reading [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-binge-watch-part-2/972711/2443) in the TV Binge watch thread.
2. Take a DQ.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a (non-criminal) personal hero of Lex Luthor?
> 2. Did Julius Caesar give the retired soldier Tremensdelerius your village?
> 3. Were you, your husband Marko, and your daughter Hazel on the run from the armies of Wreath and Landfall in _Saga_?

1. I’m not Ayn Rand?
2. Take a DQ
3. Take a DQ.

DQs

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.
10. Caucasian
11. From a Genre work

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/27 "2023-08-04T18:19:36Z")

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DQ: Created before 1950?

4 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/28 "2023-08-04T18:36:46Z")

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DQs

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.
10. Caucasian
11. From a Genre work
12. Created in 1950 or later

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/29 "2023-08-04T18:44:04Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Did Julius Caesar give the retired soldier Tremensdelerius your village?

I just realized too late that this one is probably Asterix the Gaul referencing the comic Ceasar’s gift (not revoking the DQ)… I need to start letting the IQs gel in my brain for a bit before giving up.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/30 "2023-08-04T20:09:02Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> IQs:  
> 1. Were you a (non-criminal) personal hero of Lex Luthor?  
> 2. Did Julius Caesar give the retired soldier Tremensdelerius your village?  
> 3. Were you, your husband Marko, and your daughter Hazel on the run from the armies of Wreath and Landfall in _Saga_?

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
>
> 1. I’m not Ayn Rand?
> 2. Take a DQ
> 3. Take a DQ.

1 was Albert Einstein; 2 was Asterix the Gaul in, yes, _Caesar’s Gift_ (which I just finished reading literally today); 3 was Alana.

DQs:  
1. male? (Just to confirm.)  
2. created after 1975?  
3. from science fiction or fantasy?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/31 "2023-08-04T20:44:57Z")

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[quote=“Buck\_Godot, post:28, topic:987985, full:true”]  
DQs

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.
10. Caucasian
11. From a Genre work
12. Created After 1950
13. Male
14. Created before 1975.
15. From Science fiction or fantasy

Simplified DQs  
a) Male  
b) Non unusual first name that begins with A  
c) Fictional character from TV or movies  
d) From fantasy or science fiction  
e) Created between 1950 and 1975  
f) Non-American creators  
g) Would be dead today if real  
h) Caucasian  
i) Good guy

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/32 "2023-08-04T21:27:18Z")

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DQs:

1. Originally from prose (a novel or short story)?
2. First name stars with A - to- Al?
3. From science fiction?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/33 "2023-08-04T21:31:02Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the heir of Elendil?
2. Are you a great big spider that threatens Harry Potter?
3. Are you George of the Jungle’s simian sidekick?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/34 "2023-08-04T21:37:16Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
> >
> > **Buck** , if it’s accurate, may I suggest using non-negative descriptors, such as “Male” rather than “Not female”? It’s easier to follow. Thanks.
> 
> That’s only true if the question is a binary one. Which is no longer true for gender. I read “not female” as “Either male, non-binary, or genderfluid”.

Hence my use of the phrase “if it’s accurate.” **Buck** has since indicated that the person in question is, indeed, male.

Previous IQs:

Were you the first CO of the 20th Maine? - Adelbert Ames, later a carpetbagger Governor of Mississippi  
Were you a devout Catholic who spied for the KGB inside the FBI? - Aldrich Ames  
Did you represent in court some soldiers of a hated occupying army? - Yes, John Adams, after the Boston Massacre

Two DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/35 "2023-08-04T21:45:56Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did your novella _The Djinn in the Nightingale’s Eye_ get adapted into the movie _Three Thousand Years of Longing_, with Tilda Swinton and Idris Elba?
> > 2. Did you overcome a previous conviction for possession with intent to distribute cocaine, to become a successful stand-up comic and sitcom star?
> > 3. Was farm livin’ the life for a character you portrayed in a sitcom, one of whose co-stars was a pig?
> 
> 1. Take a DQ  
> 2.I’m not Tim Allen, which I only know because of recently reading [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-binge-watch-part-2/972711/2443) in the TV Binge watch thread.
> 2. Take a DQ.

IQ1 was A.S. Byatt. Correct on Tim Allen. IQ3 was Eddie Albert, who played Oliver Douglas on _Green Acres._

DQs:

1. Originated in a book?
2. Protagonist/main character of his work?

IQs:

1. Are you an Irish fairy who befriends a young monastic novice in the 2009 film _The Secret of Kells_?
2. Are you the mother of writers Frank and Malachy McCourt, and name-checked in the title of Frank’s memoir?
3. Are you an Irish-born comedian and actress, currently living in the UK, probably best known to British audiences as a staple of quiz and panel shows, but best known to Americans for playing Paul Rudd’s wife in the Netflix sci-fi/comedy series _Living With Yourself_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/36 "2023-08-04T22:00:53Z")

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IQs:  
1. Did you fight crime with Charles Babbage, in a comic by Sydney Padua?  
2. Are you America’s favorite red-headed teenager?  
3. Were you a childhood friend of the above person, in the series about not teenage but Little him?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/37 "2023-08-05T00:30:59Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> Originated in a book?

This is very similar to Prof.Pepperwinkle’s question about prose particularly given that its been establsihed to be a TV/movie characters. THis makes me think you may not have seen his DQ before submitting yours. Feel free to take another DQ,

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/38 "2023-08-05T00:31:23Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you an Irish fairy who befriends a young monastic novice in the 2009 film _The Secret of Kells_?
> 2. Are you the mother of writers Frank and Malachy McCourt, and name-checked in the title of Frank’s memoir?
> 3. Are you an Irish-born comedian and actress, currently living in the UK, probably best known to British audiences as a staple of quiz and panel shows, but best known to Americans for playing Paul Rudd’s wife in the Netflix sci-fi/comedy series _Living With Yourself_?

1. Not Aisling, although my (Buck\_Godot’s) Real life [cat](https://ibb.co/YfsWYh8) is named after her.
2. Not some other Aisling who I only know because she stole my cats name and whose last name escapes me.
3. Following a theme not Aisling McCourt?

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you fight crime with Charles Babbage, in a comic by Sydney Padua?
> 2. Are you America’s favorite red-headed teenager?
> 3. Were you a childhood friend of the above person, in the series about not teenage but Little him?

1. Not Ada
2. Not Archie
3. Dunno take a DQ.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> 1. Are you the heir of Elendil?
> 2. Are you a great big spider that threatens Harry Potter?
> 3. Are you George of the Jungle’s simian sidekick?

1. Assuming its not Arathorn or Aragorn who have already been asked, its some other Elvish Arasomebody so take a DQ
2. I’m not Aragog
3. I’m not an Ape named Ape.

OK that’s probably enough IQs to get us well over 20. So no more IQs.  
Please submit all DQs by 11:59 PM tomorrow.

DQs

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.
10. Caucasian
11. From a Genre work
12. Created After 1950
13. Male
14. Created before 1975.
15. From Science fiction or fantasy
16. Did not originate from Prose
17. First name A to Al
18. From Science Fiction
19. Is not the main character of the work

Simplified DQs  
a) Male, Caucasian, good guy  
b) Non unusual first name that begins with A-Al  
c) Fictional character from Science fiction TV or movies  
d) Created by non-Americans between 1950 and 1975  
e) Not originally from prose.  
f) Would be dead today if real  
g) Is not the main character of the work

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/39 "2023-08-05T09:56:56Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Are you an Irish fairy who befriends a young monastic novice in the 2009 film _The Secret of Kells_?
> > 2. Are you the mother of writers Frank and Malachy McCourt, and name-checked in the title of Frank’s memoir?
> > 3. Are you an Irish-born comedian and actress, currently living in the UK, probably best known to British audiences as a staple of quiz and panel shows, but best known to Americans for playing Paul Rudd’s wife in the Netflix sci-fi/comedy series _Living With Yourself_?
> 
> 1. Not Aisling, although my (Buck\_Godot’s) Real life [cat](https://ibb.co/YfsWYh8) is named after her.
> 2. Not some other Aisling who I only know because she stole my cats name and whose last name escapes me.
> 3. Following a theme not Aisling McCourt?

I think you got the order mixed up, but yes, mostly right. IQ1 was indeed Aisling. IQ2 was the question about _Angela_ McCourt, from her son Frank’s memoir _Angela’s Ashes._ Since I gave you her surname, I feel that should count for a DQ. IQ3 was another Aisling, the hilarious [Aisling Bea](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisling_Bea). Think you got that one, since you spotted the theme. (And also, you didn’t name your cat Pangur Ban?)

2 DQs reserved (had one in the tank).

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/40 "2023-08-05T12:11:08Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
>
> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
> >
> > 1. Are you the heir of Elendil?
> > 2. Are you a great big spider that threatens Harry Potter?
> > 3. Are you George of the Jungle’s simian sidekick?
> 
> 1. Assuming its not Arathorn or Aragorn who have already been asked, its some other Elvish Arasomebody so take a DQ
> 2. I’m not Aragog
> 3. I’m not an Ape named Ape.

#1 was Aragorn, so you swept me.

DQ: British creator(s)?

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