# Botticelli August 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 3, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985 "2023-08-03T02:27:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/421 "2023-08-28T22:01:30Z")
Oh, Greek mythology IQs? I’m in. 1. Were you the goddess of youth? 2. Were you the Titan who fathered the sun? 3. Were you the gods’ Psychopomp? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/422 "2023-08-28T22:39:52Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you the first female philosopher and mathematician whose life is well-recorded? > 2. Were you a member of the Pima tribe, and one of the soldiers in the iconic Iwo Jima flag-raising photograph? > 3. Are you the personification of Ireland, the Irish equivalent of Uncle Sam or John Bull? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Ugh. Pride goeth before a fall. I’ve heard of her but don’t remember her name, not Hank Iforgethislastname, and dunno. No. 1 was Hypatia of Alexandria. No. 2 was the hero of the Johnny Cash song _The Ballad of Ira Hayes_, and No. 3, the embodiment of Ireland, is Cathleen Ni Houlihan. 3 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/423 "2023-08-29T19:03:33Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > … > 1, Did you write about Achileas [sp?] sulking like a spoiled brat, until the death of his boy toy snapped him into action. > 2. Along with the answer to the previous IQ were your poems responsible for much or our knowledge of Greek myths. > 2. Did you write the history of the Peloponnesian war. Not Homer, Herodotus or Herodotus again. > [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > … > IQs: > 1. Did you say mornings were for coffee and contemplation? > 2. Were you played by Wanda Sykes on _History of the World, Part II_?.. > 3. Did you used to get off elevators and say “Who would have thought he had so much blood in him”? Not Bob Hope, Helen of Troy or Humphrey Bogart. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > … > > 1. Were you the goddess of youth? > 2. Were you the Titan who fathered the sun? > 3. Were you the gods’ Psychopomp? Not Helena, Helios or Hesperion. H. 1. real 2. last name starts with H 3. male 4. dead 5. not American 6. died before 1900 7. European 8. died after 1700 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/424 "2023-08-29T19:24:53Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > > 1. Were you the goddess of youth? > > 2. Were you the Titan who fathered the sun? > > 3. Were you the gods’ Psychopomp? > > Not Helena, Helios or Hesperion. Hebe was the goddess of youth. Hyperion was the father of Helios, the sun. Hermes was the gods’ Psychopomp, who guided the souls from the land of the living to Charon’s boat and the afterworld. DQs: D 1. Died after 1799? 2. Native speaker of a Romance language? 3. Known for the Arts? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/425 "2023-08-29T19:27:50Z")
H. 1. real 2. last name starts with H 3. male 4. dead 5. not American 6. died before 1900 7. European 8. died after 1700 9. died after 1799 10. not a native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for the Arts ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/426 "2023-08-29T19:29:02Z")
IQs: 1. Were you the Greek god of sleep? 2. Were you the Greek philosopher who said a person cannot step into the same river twice? 3. Were you one of the spawn of Echidna? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/427 "2023-08-29T19:43:35Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > > 1, Did you write about Achileas [sp?] sulking like a spoiled brat, until the death of his boy toy snapped him into action. > > 2. Along with the answer to the previous IQ were your poems responsible for much or our knowledge of Greek myths. > > 2. Did you write the history of the Peloponnesian war. > > Not Homer, Herodotus or Herodotus again. The first and third are definitely correct. Heroditus is not who I had in mind for the second. He wasn’t what I would think of as one of the primary sources for our knowledge of Greek mythology. The person I was thinking of was Hesiod who wrote the Theogony which was the primary source historians use for many of the Greek myths. But since Heroditus he did talk about the equivalence between the Egyptian and Greek mythology I can’t say he wasn’t at least partially responsible, and I’ll give you a clean sweep. Speaking of Herodotus, I also have a Botticelli rules clarification for future reference. After I submitted my questions, I noticed that you had previously announced that you were not Herodotus in an incorrect answer to one of De\_La\_Rue’s IQs. Now, since you got my third IQ correct the issue was moot, but if you hadn’t known the answer, would your previously rejection of being Herodotus (even if it incorrectly answered the IQ) have made my question invalid? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/428 "2023-08-29T19:55:55Z")
You’re always free to rephrase your IQ if you’re thinking of someone else but I give what is otherwise a valid answer. Sometimes people overlook earlier answers (I know I certainly have, now and then), so I believe the game leader may use the same answer again. It does not make your question invalid. If others think differently, by all means, weigh in. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/429 "2023-08-29T19:58:05Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you the Greek god of sleep? > 2. Were you the Greek philosopher who said a person cannot step into the same river twice? > 3. Were you one of the spawn of Echidna? Dunno, and not Heraclitus or… Horus? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/430 "2023-08-29T20:45:11Z")
Well, **Buck Godot** has his revenge; the Prof grabbed one of my IQs, about the Greek god of sleep. Sneaky! Reserved DQs: 1. German speaker? 2. Known for philosophy? 3. Known for politics/military? IQs. 1. Were you, according to song, a boozy beggar who could think you under the table? 2. Did your lover Leander swim the Hellepont to be with you? 3. Did you lend your name to a stuffed tiger? ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/431 "2023-08-29T21:32:55Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > IQs: > 1. Did you say mornings were for coffee and contemplation? > 2. Were you played by Wanda Sykes on _History of the World, Part II_? > 3. Did you used to get off elevators and say “Who would have thought he had so much blood in him”? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Bob Hope, Helen of Troy or Humphrey Bogart. 1 was Jim Hopper, in _Stranger Things_; 2 was Harriet Tubman; 3 was Alfred Hitchcock. DQs: 1. first name begins from A-M? 2. born west of Vienna? 1 DQ reserved. IQs: 1. Was Huma Abedin your deputy chief of staff? 2. Are you the most famous person “born in” Appleton, Wisconsin (you were actually born in Budapest)? 3. Have you played a single father raising three orphans, a gritty detective, and Secretariat, because you’re a horse? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/432 "2023-08-29T23:52:17Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Were you the Greek god of sleep? > > 2. Were you the Greek philosopher who said a person cannot step into the same river twice? > > 3. Were you one of the spawn of Echidna? > > Dunno, and not Heraclitus or… Horus? Hypnos was the god of sleep. Heraclites was the philosopher. Heraclitus is the Latin form, and close enough. The Hydra was Echidna’s baby. 2 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/433 "2023-08-30T01:26:49Z")
The correct term is Akimel O’odham, not Pima. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/434 "2023-08-30T01:31:27Z")
> [@kitap](#): > > The correct term is Akimel O’odham, not Pima Thank you. I had the line from the Johnny Cash song in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/435 "2023-08-30T13:26:25Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > … > IQs. > > 1. Were you, according to song, a boozy beggar who could think you under the table? > 2. Did your lover Leander swim the Hellepont to be with you? > 3. Did you lend your name to a stuffed tiger? Not Heidegger, Helen of Troy or Hobbes. > [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > … > IQs: > 1. Was Huma Abedin your deputy chief of staff? > 2. Are you the most famous person “born in” Appleton, Wisconsin (you were actually born in Budapest)? > 3. Have you played a single father raising three orphans, a gritty detective, and Secretariat, because you’re a horse? Not Hillary Clinton, dunno and not Bob Hoskins. H. 1. real 2. last name starts with H 3. male 4. dead 5. not American 6. died before 1900 7. European 8. died after 1700 9. died after 1799 10. not a native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for the Arts 12. German speaker 13. not known for philosophy 14. not known for politics/military 15. first name begins from A-M 16. probably born west of Vienna No more IQs, please, as we’re now at 20 or close to it. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/436 "2023-08-30T14:55:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > … > > IQs. > > > > 1. Were you, according to song, a boozy beggar who could think you under the table? > > 2. Did your lover Leander swim the Hellepont to be with you? > > 3. Did you lend your name to a stuffed tiger? > > Not Heidegger, Helen of Troy or Hobbes. Good guess on No 2, but no: Leander swam the Hellespont to be with his lover Hero. DQ: Known for music? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/437 "2023-08-30T15:19:38Z")
#11. Not known for the Arts would include music. DQ: Known for business? 1 DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/438 "2023-08-30T15:20:55Z")
> [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > IQs: > 1. Was Huma Abedin your deputy chief of staff? > 2. Are you the most famous person “born in” Appleton, Wisconsin (you were actually born in Budapest)? > 3. Have you played a single father raising three orphans, a gritty detective, and Secretariat, because you’re a horse? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Hillary Clinton, dunno and not Bob Hoskins. 2 was Harry Houdini; 3 was BoJack Horseman, in _BoJack Horseman_. 3 DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/439 "2023-08-30T16:21:56Z")
**SMV** , ask another DQ - I won’t count your music question against you, for the reason **Prof. P.** said. H. 1. real 2. last name starts with H 3. male 4. dead 5. not American 6. died before 1900 7. European 8. died after 1700 9. died after 1799 10. not a native speaker of a Romance language 11. not known for the Arts 11a. not known for music 12. German speaker 13. not known for philosophy 14. not known for politics/military 15. first name begins from A-M 16. probably born west of Vienna 17. not known for business ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/440 "2023-08-30T16:38:59Z")
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