# Botticelli August 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 3, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985 "2023-08-03T02:27:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/41 "2023-08-05T16:58:26Z")

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Using my reserved DQs:

Best known for TV?  
Has been known to carry an energy weapon?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/42 "2023-08-05T19:39:24Z")

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IQs

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.
10. Caucasian
11. From a Genre work
12. Created After 1950
13. Male
14. Created before 1975.
15. From Science fiction or fantasy
16. Did not originate from Prose
17. First name A to Al
18. From Science Fiction
19. Is not the main character of the work
20. British creators
21. Best known for TV
22. Used an energy weapon on one occasion (that I know of there may be others). But this was a isolated incident, and he did not carry one regularly.

Simplified  
a) Male, Caucasian, good guy  
b) Non unusual first name that begins with A-Al  
c) Fictional character from Science fiction TV  
d) Created by British creators between 1950 and 1975  
e) Not originally from prose.  
f) Would be dead today if real  
g) Is not the main character of the work  
h) Did not regularly carry and energy weapon.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/43 "2023-08-05T22:59:19Z")

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“Now I’ll never know if I was right…”

FirstName LastName Q: Are you Adric, ill-fated companion to the 5th Doctor?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/44 "2023-08-05T23:07:30Z")

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Come to think of it, though, Adric’s not all that common a name. Oh, well.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/45 "2023-08-05T23:47:01Z")

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Alright, my last reserved DQs:

1. Carried any weapon?
2. Character (not creators) is British?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/46 "2023-08-06T00:09:56Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> And also, you didn’t name your cat Pangur Ban?

We considered Pangur Ban, but

1. Aisling is a prettier name than Panger Ban
2. Aisling’s dear departed predecessor was named Nisse (a Norwegian Faerie) and we were going with a theme
3. Aisling is pronounced similarly to Ash-ling and we though ash matched the color of her fur.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> FirstName LastName Q: Are you Adric, ill-fated companion to the 5th Doctor?

Very good guess, but as you say I wouldn’t consider Adric to be a common name.

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.
10. Caucasian
11. From a Genre work
12. Created After 1950
13. Male
14. Created before 1975.
15. From Science fiction or fantasy
16. Did not originate from Prose
17. First name A to Al
18. From Science Fiction
19. Is not the main character of the work
20. British creators
21. Best known for TV
22. Used an energy weapon on one occasion (that I know of there may be others). But this was a isolated incident, and he did not carry one regularly.
23. British Character
24. Based on looking at google images he carried a weapon the majority of the time on screen.

Simplified  
a) Male, Caucasian, British, good guy  
b) Non unusual first name that begins with A-Al  
c) Fictional character from Science fiction TV  
d) Created by British creators between 1950 and 1975  
e) Not originally from prose.  
f) Would be dead today if real  
g) Is not the main character of the work  
h) Regualrly carried a non-energy weapon

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/47 "2023-08-06T01:03:53Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1. Did you fight crime with Charles Babbage, in a comic by Sydney Padua?  
> 2. Are you America’s favorite red-headed teenager?  
> 3. Were you a childhood friend of the above person, in the series about not teenage but Little him?

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> 1. Not Ada
> 2. Not Archie
> 3. Dunno take a DQ.

Close enough on Ada Lovelace; 2 was correct; 3 was Ambrose.

Final DQ: from a TV show set in the contemporary present?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/48 "2023-08-06T01:22:54Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Come to think of it, though, Adric’s not all that common a name. Oh, well.

Another flaw I realized is that I’m pretty sure that Adric was created after 1975.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Final DQ: from a TV show set in the contemporary present?

This character yes, as for the TV show … its complicated.

1. Not Real
2. Not Female
3. From TV or Movies
4. Non-American creators
5. Created before 1980
6. First name starts with A
7. Considered a good guy
8. Would be dead today if real
9. Not a particularly unusual first name.
10. Caucasian
11. From a Genre work
12. Created After 1950
13. Male
14. Created before 1975.
15. From Science fiction or fantasy
16. Did not originate from Prose
17. First name A to Al
18. From Science Fiction
19. Is not the main character of the work
20. British creators
21. Best known for TV
22. Used an energy weapon on one occasion (that I know of there may be others). But this was a isolated incident, and he did not carry one regularly.
23. British Character
24. Based on looking at google images he carried a weapon the majority of the time on screen.
25. The character is contemporary for the time of production although the TV show takes place in multiple eras.

Simplified  
a) Male, Caucasian, British, good guy from contemporary era  
b) Non unusual first name that begins with A-Al  
c) Fictional character from Science fiction TV that takes place in multiple eras  
d) Created by British creators between 1950 and 1975  
e) Not originally from prose.  
f) Would be dead today if real  
g) Is not the main character of the work  
h) Regularly carried a non-energy weapon

Particularly with that last question I think at this point you probably have enough information to guess who I am.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/49 "2023-08-06T02:46:49Z")

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Hmm. I have a feeling this will be a character from a show I’ve never seen.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/50 "2023-08-06T04:30:23Z")

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OK I think everyone has given their DQs. Try to give your final first/last name guesses by Midnight Sunday August 6th.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/51 "2023-08-06T13:26:43Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Hmm. I have a feeling this will be a character from a show I’ve never seen

_Doctor Who_, I suspect. And the only characters in classic _Who_ that carried guns were members of UNIT. So, Firstname Lastname: are you **Brigadier Alastair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart**?  
(_Alastair_ is an unusual name in the US, but it’s not uncommon in the UK, I think; it’s the Scottish Gaelic equivalent of _Alexander._)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/52 "2023-08-06T14:24:23Z")

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That’s another very nice guess.

All else I come up with would have to be someone from _Blake’s 7_ or _Red Dwarf_, and I never watched them.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/53 "2023-08-06T15:54:09Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> _Doctor Who_, I suspect. And the only characters in classic _Who_ that carried guns were members of UNIT. So, Firstname Lastname: are you **Brigadier Alastair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart**?

Yes I am!  
[![](https://www.popoptiq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/The-Brig.jpg) ](https://www.popoptiq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/The-Brig.jpg)  
Good job Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle!

Friend of the Doctor first, although not by some strict definitions a companion because he did not travel with the Doctor through time and space between episodes preferring to stay at home base in his own era (although he did once travel back a few days and made the mistake of meeting himself resulting in a massive energy discharge that saved the doctor). His first appearance was in 1964, but the actor who played him died before the reboot, and the character’s peaceful death at home was written into the canon.

He was resurrected as a cyberman who performed a fiinal heroic act of disintegrating the master which to my knowledge is the only time he used an energy weapon preferring instead to rely on his pistol sidearm.

You’re up next SMV.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/54 "2023-08-06T20:49:34Z")

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Good one. I’ve heard of the character but never seen him onscreen.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/55 "2023-08-07T19:36:55Z")

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By the way after this session I had some questions regarding the conventions that I would like clarified and so I added a [lengthy post](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/37) for discussion in the general questions thread.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/56 "2023-08-08T03:54:29Z")

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Sorry it’s taken me a minute to start the next round - Monday was a very long day that encompassed a seven-hour drive to Florida, picking my father-in-law up at a hospital, and then cleaning up after him when he lost bladder control. 'S been a day.

So, a letter we haven’t used in a couple of months, and at the risk of sounding tautological: I am I.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/57 "2023-08-08T13:50:03Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a diminutive Saturday morning cartoon detective?
2. Did you write _God Bless America_?
3. Are you the Silver Age Flash’s grandson?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/58 "2023-08-08T14:34:47Z")

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Congrats, Vehicle!

IQs:  
1. Did you preside over the O.J. Simpson trial?  
2. Were you in the Hallmark TV movie version of _The Odyssey_?  
3. Did one of your characters sleep for twenty years, while another was a gangly schoolteacher in Sleepy Hollow?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/59 "2023-08-08T16:20:12Z")

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Hope your FIL is doing better, **SMV**.

I it is.

IQs:

Did Ray Bradbury combine your name with others in a short-story title?  
Were you Elendil’s eldest son?  
Were you a grumpy fictional resident of New Orleans?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2023/987985/60 "2023-08-08T17:05:48Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a diminutive Saturday morning cartoon detective?
> 2. Did you write _God Bless America_?
> 3. Are you the Silver Age Flash’s grandson?

1. No clue. DQ.
2. I am not Irving Berlin.
3. Bupkis. DQ for you.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> Did you preside over the O.J. Simpson trial?  
> 2. Were you in the Hallmark TV movie version of _The Odyssey_?  
> 3. Did one of your characters sleep for twenty years, while another was a gangly schoolteacher in Sleepy Hollow?

1. I am not Lance Ito.
2. I am not…Iphigenia?
3. I am not Washington Irving.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did Ray Bradbury combine your name with others in a short-story title?  
> Were you Elendil’s eldest son?  
> Were you a grumpy fictional resident of New Orleans?

1. Dunno. DQ.
2. I am not Isildur (nor his Bane).
3. Another DQ.

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