# Botticelli - August 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 31, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070 "2024-07-31T19:27:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/1 "2024-07-31T19:27:19Z")

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Last month’s thread: [Botticelli - July 2024](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-july-2024/1003634)

Updated: [Botticelli - the letters we've used so far - #124 by Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-the-letters-weve-used-so-far/619048/124)

Our new letter is

# S

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/2 "2024-07-31T21:08:17Z")

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Nicely played, **ER!**

IQs:

1. Are you Ungoliant’s Heir?
2. Have you played a cheerful idiot, an old man who cannot get the wood anymore, and a scraggy Frenchman, all on the same show?
3. Have you played the cheerful idiot’s doomed best friend, the old man who cannot get the wood anymore’s jazzy girlfriend, and the scraggy Frenchman’s employer?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/3 "2024-08-01T14:10:22Z")

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IQs:  
1. Were you the head of the Institute in _The Institute_?  
2. Did you write _The Institute_?  
3. Were you a Jewish LA Dodger?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/4 "2024-08-01T15:33:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you Ungoliant’s Heir?
> 2. Have you played a cheerful idiot, an old man who cannot get the wood anymore, and a scraggy Frenchman, all on the same show?
> 3. Have you played the cheerful idiot’s doomed best friend, the old man who cannot get the wood anymore’s jazzy girlfriend, and the scraggy Frenchman’s employer?

Not Shelob, Spike Jones or Shirley Jones.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1. Were you the head of the Institute in _The Institute_?  
> 2. Did you write _The Institute_?  
> 3. Were you a Jewish LA Dodger?

Dunno, not Stephen King, and not Stanley Koufax.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/5 "2024-08-01T16:02:52Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
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> > 1. Are you Ungoliant’s Heir?
> > 2. Have you played a cheerful idiot, an old man who cannot get the wood anymore, and a scraggy Frenchman, all on the same show?
> > 3. Have you played the cheerful idiot’s doomed best friend, the old man who cannot get the wood anymore’s jazzy girlfriend, and the scraggy Frenchman’s employer?
> 
> Not Shelob, Spike Jones or Shirley Jones.

Correct on Shelob.  
#2 was Spike Milligan, and #3 was Peter Sellers, both on the highly acclaimed, quality-assured, wood-paneled, bumbershoot-laden, all-leather 1950’s BBC radio series,…

# _The Goon Show!_

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/6 "2024-08-01T16:24:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno, not Stephen King, and not Stanley Koufax.

1 was Mrs. Sigsby.

DQ: first name begins with S?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/7 "2024-08-01T16:33:55Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write the Bartimaeus Trilogy?
2. Did you compose _Finlandia_?
3. Did you steal Zeppo Marx’s wife away from him?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/8 "2024-08-01T16:37:06Z")

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IQs:  
1. Were you in _The Shape of Water_?  
2. Did you host bonfires of the vanities?  
3. Were you allegedly modeled after French wrestler Maurice Tillet? (The 2001 movie version of you, not the original version of you, from the picture book by William Steig.)  
[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/01-26-1953_11274_Maurice_Tillet_%284304937426%29_%28cropped%29.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/01-26-1953_11274_Maurice_Tillet_%284304937426%29_%28cropped%29.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/9 "2024-08-01T16:55:42Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write the Bartimaeus Trilogy?
> 2. Did you compose _Finlandia_?
> 3. Did you steal Zeppo Marx’s wife away from him?

Dunno, not Sibelius and not Spencer Tracy.

> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1. Were you in _The Shape of Water_?  
> 2. Did you host bonfires of the vanities?  
> 3. Were you allegedly modeled after French wrestler Maurice Tillet? (The 2001 movie version of you, not the original version of you, from the picture book by William Steig.)…

Not Michael Shannon, Savanarola (sp?) or Shrek.

S.

1. real
2. female
3. last name begins with S

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/10 "2024-08-01T17:26:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you write the Bartimaeus Trilogy?
> > 2. Did you compose _Finlandia_?
> > 3. Did you steal Zeppo Marx’s wife away from him?
> 
> Dunno, not Sibelius and not Spencer Tracy.

#1 was Jonathan Stroud.  
#2 is correct.  
#3 was Frank Sinatra.

DQs:

1. Living?
2. Known for the Arts?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/11 "2024-08-01T17:52:57Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Michael Shannon, Savanarola (sp?) or Shrek.

A clean sweep!

IQs:  
1. Were you the female lead in _The Shape of Water_?  
2. Well, did Superintendent Chalmers make it (to your residence), despite your instructions?  
3. Did you found the American Federation of Labor?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/12 "2024-08-01T18:11:49Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1. Were you the female lead in _The Shape of Water_?  
> 2. Well, did Superintendent Chalmers make it (to your residence), despite your instructions?  
> 3. Did you found the American Federation of Labor?

Dunno, not Principal Skinner and not Sullivan.

S.

1. real
2. female
3. last name begins with S
4. dead
5. not known for the Arts

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/13 "2024-08-01T18:29:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> not Stanley Koufax.

Just popped in to say it’s **Sandy** Koufax.

/resumes lurker mode

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/14 "2024-08-01T18:49:37Z")

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Ah, thanks.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/15 "2024-08-01T19:21:49Z")

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> [@De\_La\_Rue](#):
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> IQs:  
> 1. Were you the female lead in _The Shape of Water_?  
> 2. Well, did Superintendent Chalmers make it (to your residence), despite your instructions?  
> 3. Did you found the American Federation of Labor?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno, not Principal Skinner and not Sullivan.

1 was Sally Hawkins; 3 was Samuel Gompers.

DQs:  
1. American?  
2. died after 1970?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/16 "2024-08-01T19:47:04Z")

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D’oh, Gompers, of course! 🙄

S.

1. real
2. female
3. last name begins with S
4. dead
5. not known for the Arts
6. American
7. died before 1970

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/17 "2024-08-01T20:01:13Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you Trump’s first Attorney General?
2. Were you Trump’s Secretary of the Treasury?
3. Are you one of the female Supreme Court Justices?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/18 "2024-08-01T20:11:05Z")

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Great guess, **EH**!

IQs:

1. Were you one of the original Mercury astronauts, later becoming NASA’s Director of Flight Crew Operations?
2. Were you a poet who, after drowning in a sudden squall while sailing off the coast of Italy, was cremated on an Italian beach?
3. Have you been played by both Jim Parsons and Iain Armitage?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/19 "2024-08-01T20:18:52Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you Trump’s first Attorney General?
> 2. Were you Trump’s Secretary of the Treasury?
> 3. Are you one of the female Supreme Court Justices?

Not Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, not Seth Mnuchin and not Sonia Sotomayor.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you one of the original Mercury astronauts, later becoming NASA’s Director of Flight Crew Operations?
> 2. Were you a poet who, after drowning in a sudden squall while sailing off the coast of Italy, was cremated on an Italian beach?
> 3. Have you been played by both Jim Parsons and Iain Armitage?

Not Scott Carpenter, not P.B. Shelley and dunno.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/20 "2024-08-01T20:22:10Z")

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IQs:  
1. Did you direct two movies released in 1982, and two other movies released twenty years later? (Well, okay, the other 1982 film is credited to Tobe Hooper, and you were a producer, but there’s long been suspicion that you actually directed it.)  
2. Did you co-write the Star Trek episode “The Lights of Zetar”, which at one point involves aliens in a way “puppeteering” humans?  
3. Were you “The Man”, and a Cardinal?

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