# Botticelli - August 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [July 31, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070 "2024-07-31T19:27:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/81 "2024-08-09T16:42:06Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you say that Washington’s 1776-77 New Jersey campaign was “the most brilliant of any recorded in the annals of military achievements"? - Frederick the Great  
Were you the son of two fictional psychologists? - From _Frasier_, yes, but this was his and Lillith’s son, Frederick Crane  
Were you Earl Warren’s predecessor as Chief Justice of the United States? - Frederick Vinson

Frederick x3!

DQs:

Protagonist?  
From genre fiction (sf, fantasy, detective, Western, etc.)?

One DQ reserved

IQs:

Were you the young owner of “Some pig!”?  
Did you lead a singalong of “Twist and Shout” on a Chicago street?  
Were you President Bartlet’s first CJCS?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/82 "2024-08-09T16:45:15Z")

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F.

1. Not real.
2. Male.
3. Last name does not start with F.
4. American.
5. Is part of a franchise that has been rebooted multiple times. The first incarnation of the character would not be alive today; later incarnations probably would be.
6. From a series of novels.
7. From a mystery series.
8. Series has been adapted.
9. Created before 1959.
10. Not the protagonist.
11. From genre fiction.

ETA: **Elendil\_s\_Heir** ’s DQs.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/83 "2024-08-09T16:47:35Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you the young owner of “Some pig!”?  
> Did you lead a singalong of “Twist and Shout” on a Chicago street?  
> Were you President Bartlet’s first CJCS?

I am not Fern Arable.  
I am not Ferris Bueller.  
Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/84 "2024-08-09T17:50:04Z")

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Correct, correct, and Adm. Percy Fitzwallace on _The West Wing_.

DQs:

Sidekick?  
From sf or fantasy?

IQs:

Did your father, a messy eater, say he’d rather you had died than your older brother?  
Did you write a poem while being held overnight against your will aboard a British warship?  
Were you an MLB commissioner after Bart Giamatti?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/85 "2024-08-09T18:43:28Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. In the French version of your story, were you known as Guy L’Eclair?
> 2. Are you Santa Claus’s brother?
> 3. Are you a magician who occasionally battled the Justice League of America?

#1 is Flash Gordon.  
#2 is, correct, Fred Claus.  
#3 is Felix Faust.

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/86 "2024-08-10T00:23:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did your father, a messy eater, say he’d rather you had died than your older brother?  
> Did you write a poem while being held overnight against your will aboard a British warship?  
> Were you an MLB commissioner after Bart Giamatti?

I am not… Fat Bastard?  
I am not Francis Scott Key.  
I am not Fay Vincent.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/87 "2024-08-10T00:35:05Z")

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F.

1. Not real.
2. Male.
3. Last name does not start with F.
4. American.
5. Is part of a franchise that has been rebooted multiple times. The first incarnation of the character would not be alive today; later incarnations probably would be.
6. From a series of novels.
7. From a mystery series.
8. Series has been adapted.
9. Created before 1959.
10. Not the protagonist.
11. From genre fiction.
12. Not a sidekick.

I’m counting “from genre fiction” as being a superset of “from a mystery series”. @Elendil_s_Heir , do you still want to ask if this character is “from sf or fantasy”, i.e. from mystery-sf or -fantasy?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/88 "2024-08-10T15:40:34Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the father of Frank and Joe?
2. Were you a villainous creation of Sax Rohmer?
3. Did you play Ardeth Bey in a pair of movies in the ear!y 2000s?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/89 "2024-08-10T17:52:07Z")

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Yes, I am

# Fenton Hardy

former NYPD detective, private investigator, crack shot, scourge of Bayport’s worst criminal element, and most famously father of the Hardy Boys.

Take it away, @kitap , and congratulations!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/90 "2024-08-10T18:01:04Z")

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Good job, **kitap!**  
Nice pick, **SunUp!**

I came close.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/91 "2024-08-10T18:44:20Z")

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I actually double-checked that you hadn’t used Fenton for an IQ.

I will pick someone,after lunch.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/92 "2024-08-11T00:56:49Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you the father of Frank and Joe?
> 2. Were you a villainous creation of Sax Rohmer?
> 3. Did you play Ardeth Bey in a pair of movies in the ear!y 2000s?

For the record, Fu Manchu and Oded Fehr.

Now, on to

**L**

As in lemon, Lorax and lemur.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/93 "2024-08-11T02:52:17Z")

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Good job, **kitap**!

Previous IQs:

Did your father, a messy eater, say he’d rather you had died than your older brother? - Faramir, in _LOTR_  
Did you write a poem while being held overnight against your will aboard a British warship? - Yes, Francis Scott Key  
Were you an MLB commissioner after Bart Giamatti? - Yes, Fay Vincent

On to L!

IQs:

Did your boys knock inkwells around your office, creating a terrible mess?  
Were you the mother of those brats?  
Were you their eldest brother?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/94 "2024-08-11T03:44:42Z")

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@Prof.Pepperwinkle , you came _very_ close. I had to look a second time to see if you hadn’t gotten it with one of your other IQs

IQs:

1. Were you the host of an eponymous evening show on CNN before being fired last year?
2. Were you a centerfielder for the White Sox and Tigers, winning a World Series with the latter in 1984?
3. Did you tour with the Harlem Globetrotters for 22 years?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/95 "2024-08-11T05:30:59Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did your boys knock inkwells around your office, creating a terrible mess?  
> Were you the mother of those brats?  
> Were you their eldest brother?

Take 3 DQs.

> [@SunUp](#):
>
> @Prof.Pepperwinkle , you came _very_ close. I had to look a second time to see if you hadn’t gotten it with one of your other IQs
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the host of an eponymous evening show on CNN before being fired last year?
> 2. Were you a centerfielder for the White Sox and Tigers, winning a World Series with the latter in 1984?
> 3. Did you tour with the Harlem Globetrotters for 22 years?

Take a DQ, take a DQ, I am not Meadowlark Lemon.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/96 "2024-08-11T15:11:13Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you the fairy queen of Oz?
2. Did Groucho sing your praises?
3. Did you create Galactus?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/97 "2024-08-11T16:05:06Z")

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I am not Lurline and take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/98 "2024-08-11T18:08:03Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the fairy queen of Oz?
> 2. Did Groucho sing your praises?
> 3. Did you create Galactus?

> [@kitap](#):
>
> I am not Lurline and take 2 DQs.

Correct on Lurline.  
#2 was Lydia, O Lydia, O have you met Lydia, Lydia the Tattooed Lady?  
#3 was Stan Lee (along with Jack Kirby).

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/99 "2024-08-11T18:52:56Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2024/1005070/100 "2024-08-11T19:34:51Z")

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> [@kitap](#):
>
> > [@SunUp](#):
> >
> > 1. Were you the host of an eponymous evening show on CNN before being fired last year?
> > 2. Were you a centerfielder for the White Sox and Tigers, winning a World Series with the latter in 1984?
> > 3. Did you tour with the Harlem Globetrotters for 22 years?
> 
> Take a DQ, take a DQ, I am not Meadowlark Lemon.

Don Lemon, Chet Lemon, and correct.

Lemon x 3!

DQ: First name begins with L?

1 DQ reserved.

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