# Botticelli, August 2025

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698 "2025-08-04T18:14:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/181 "2025-08-20T05:05:32Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> - I am not Icarus.
> - I am not Irving Berlin (?)
> - Take a DQ.

Correct  
Isaac Hayes (“Theme from Shaft”)  
Ivor Biggin

3 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/182 "2025-08-20T07:37:04Z")

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DQ: A good guy?

IQs:

1. Did you have a WWII motorized infantry brigade named for you?
2. Were you the first Superior General of the Jesuits?
3. Were you a Deltan lieutenant aboard NCC-1701?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/183 "2025-08-20T13:41:59Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:178, topic:1021698, full:true”]

# DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. The original creator was not American. The revised, named version of the character had American creators.
4. Created before 1950
5. Only name starts with I.
6. Not originally from prose fiction.
7. Created after 1850
8. Character is not American
9. Created after 1900
10. Not human
11. Animal
12. Has appeared in film or TV Series
13. European original creator
14. European character
15. In a Disney or Pixar movie
16. Supporting character
17. Non-speaking role
18. A good guy

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/184 "2025-08-20T13:42:41Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you have a WWII motorized infantry brigade named for you?
> 2. Were you the first Superior General of the Jesuits?
> 3. Were you a Deltan lieutenant aboard NCC-1701?

1. I am not St. Ignatius Loyola (??)  
Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/185 "2025-08-20T15:32:57Z")

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#1 was Princess Irene of the Netherlands.  
#3 was Lieutenant Ilia.  
Correct on #2.

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/186 "2025-08-20T15:38:55Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:183, topic:1021698”]

# DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. The original creator was not American. The revised, named version of the character had American creators.
4. Created before 1950
5. Only name starts with I.
6. Not originally from prose fiction.
7. Created after 1850
8. Character is not American
9. Created after 1900
10. Not human
11. Animal
12. Has appeared in film or TV Series
13. European original creator
14. European character
15. In a Disney or Pixar movie
16. Supporting character
17. Non-speaking role
18. A good guy

There is, apparently, a revised version of the story where he does speak, in English. It is not a well-known version.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/187 "2025-08-20T17:56:57Z")

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DQ: Name begins with Ia - Im?

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/188 "2025-08-20T19:19:46Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:186, topic:1021698”]

# DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. The original creator was not American. The revised, named version of the character had American creators.
4. Created before 1950
5. Only name starts with I.
6. Not originally from prose fiction.
7. Created after 1850
8. Character is not American
9. Created after 1900
10. Not human
11. Animal
12. Has appeared in film or TV Series
13. European original creator
14. European character
15. In a Disney or Pixar movie
16. Supporting character
17. Non-speaking role
18. A good guy
19. Name begins with In - Iz

There’s gonna be more than 20 DQs as it is, so let’s halt the IQs now. Please ask all remaining DQs by 7pm EDT tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/189 "2025-08-21T16:59:59Z")

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DQ: Are you anthropomorphic (human-like)?

DQ: Was your most recent appearance after 1990?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/190 "2025-08-21T17:10:42Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:188, topic:1021698”]

# DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. The original creator was not American. The revised, named version of the character had American creators.
4. Created before 1950
5. Only name starts with I.
6. Not originally from prose fiction.
7. Created after 1850
8. Character is not American
9. Created after 1900
10. Not human
11. Animal
12. Has appeared in film or TV Series
13. European original creator
14. European character
15. In a Disney or Pixar movie
16. Supporting character
17. Non-speaking role
18. A good guy
19. Name begins with In - Iz
20. Only slightly anthropomorphic
21. Most recent appearance was after 1990

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/191 "2025-08-21T17:12:23Z")

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“Slightly”? Seems this would be a yes or no question.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/192 "2025-08-21T17:38:36Z")

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I’m offering my pair of extra DQs to anyone who might want to use them.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/193 "2025-08-22T00:47:59Z")

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[quote=“Prof.Pepperwinkle, post:190, topic:1021698”]

# DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. The original creator was not American. The revised, named version of the character had American creators.
4. Created before 1950
5. Only name starts with I.
6. Not originally from prose fiction.
7. Created after 1850
8. Character is not American
9. Created after 1900
10. Not human
11. Animal
12. Has appeared in film or TV Series
13. European original creator
14. European character
15. In a Disney or Pixar movie
16. Supporting character
17. Non-speaking role
18. A good guy
19. Name begins with In - Iz
20. Only slightly anthropomorphic
21. Most recent appearance was after 1990
22. Russian creator
23. Russian character

Please ask your final “Are you Name?” questions by 8pm EDT tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/194 "2025-08-22T14:37:14Z")

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Are you Izbushka?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/195 "2025-08-22T16:58:15Z")

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I am not Izbushka. Did Disney do Baba Yaga?

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**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/196 "2025-08-22T18:41:33Z")

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I don’t think so; it was a WAG based on Russian folklore.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/197 "2025-08-23T00:05:09Z")

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When I was but a wee Professor my father got me a recording of Sterling Holloway narrating _Peter and the Wolf_, with an accompanying book. I learned to read from that book. I particularly recall Sterling spelling out “W-O-L-F, Wolf!”

One of the characters in Disney’s version is **Ivan The Cat,** performed on the clarinet, “in a very low register.”

Has anybody else seen it, or am I just too old?

[![](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3108520ff112efc102a7814b7889cbdc?rik=0C1jX%2bJZUsnUhg&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cinemacats.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2fmovies%2fpeterandthewolf03.jpg&ehk=lybViRAA13h6uKgWvPi%2bjeL%2f2cNj9AO28jFCZoeDhTw%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0&sres=1&sresct=1) ](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3108520ff112efc102a7814b7889cbdc?rik=0C1jX%2bJZUsnUhg&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cinemacats.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2fmovies%2fpeterandthewolf03.jpg&ehk=lybViRAA13h6uKgWvPi%2bjeL%2f2cNj9AO28jFCZoeDhTw%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0&sres=1&sresct=1)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/198 "2025-08-23T00:07:50Z")

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Not I.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/199 "2025-08-23T00:16:24Z")

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I vaguely remember it. I think it’s a fair pick.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-august-2025/1021698/200 "2025-08-23T00:16:51Z")

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Thank you. On to…

# X!

since it hasn’t been used at all recently.

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