# Botticelli - Dec. 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 8, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212 "2016-12-08T16:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/41 "2016-12-15T08:51:46Z")

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> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> IQ1: Did you agree to three illegal duels on the same day, only to end up fighting alongside your scheduled opponents with the law enforcement who came to stop the dueling?  
> IQ2: Were you the author of the book in which IQ1 appeared?  
> IQ3: Were you the wife of the Elongated Man?  
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d’Artagnan(the three opponents were the Three Musketeers), Alexandre Dumas, and Sue Dibny.

… and I’m pretty stumped at this point.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/42 "2016-12-15T13:36:02Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the Count of Monte Cristo?
2. Are you the eldest of The Brothers Karamazov?
3. Are you the silent one of the Seven Dwarfs?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/43 "2016-12-15T14:56:03Z")

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Dunno, not Dmitri, and not Dopey.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/44 "2016-12-15T15:25:06Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the Count of Monte Cristo?
> 2. Are you the eldest of The Brothers Karamazov?
> 3. Are you the silent one of the Seven Dwarfs?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Dunno, not Dmitri, and not Dopey.

#1 was Edmond Dantes. Correct on the other 2.

DQ: From a work originally in French?

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/45 "2016-12-15T16:04:49Z")

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D.

1. fictional
2. male
3. has appeared on TV and in movies
4. last name starts with D
5. first publication (in any medium) before 1990
6. not the protagonist in the work I’m best known for
7. first appearance before 1960
8. kind of neutral, but I guess generally considered a ‘good guy’
9. not from a comedy or series of comedies
10. not American
11. not from a mystery or crime drama
12. European
13. originally from a work of prose fiction
14. from a work of European origin
15. not from a work originally written in English
16. written before 1900
17. at least one each of my movie and TV appearances has been performed in English
18. not from a work originally in French

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/46 "2016-12-15T19:21:12Z")

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DQ: written before 1800?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/47 "2016-12-15T20:28:50Z")

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DQ1: Were you most commonly referred to including your D last name?  
DQ2: Were you the antagonist in the work you’re best known for?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/48 "2016-12-15T20:43:57Z")

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D.

1. fictional
2. male
3. has appeared on TV and in movies
4. last name starts with D
5. first publication (in any medium) before 1990
6. not the protagonist in the work I’m best known for
7. first appearance before 1960
8. kind of neutral, but I guess generally considered a ‘good guy’
9. not from a comedy or series of comedies
10. not American
11. not from a mystery or crime drama
12. European
13. originally from a work of prose fiction
14. from a work of European origin
15. not from a work originally written in English
16. written before 1900
17. at least one each of my movie and TV appearances has been performed in English
18. not from a work originally in French
19. written after 1800
20. invariably referred to including my last “D” name
21. not the antagonist in the work I’m best known for

OK, that’s it. Discuss amongst yourselves, if you like, and please ask your earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by noon EST Sat.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/49 "2016-12-15T20:51:00Z")

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19th Century European novel, neither the protagonist nor the antagonist but a neutral “good guy”. Not English or French. Made into movies and TV appearances. Not from a mystery or crime drama or a comedy.

Well, there ought to be a good possibility or two. Time to rattle the brainpan.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/50 "2016-12-15T22:51:59Z")

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Ah, Christmastide is upon us, bringing with us _The Nutcracker_.

DQ: Are you Herr Drosselmeyer?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/51 "2016-12-15T23:30:51Z")

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Pass – though I think the Prof has it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/52 "2016-12-16T04:35:59Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Ah, Christmastide is upon us, bringing with us _The Nutcracker_.
> 
> DQ: Are you Herr Drosselmeyer?

I am indeed

Herr Drosselmeyer

The somewhat-mysterious clockmaker and inventor of Hoffmann’s story and the later ballet suite by Tchaikovsky: [The Nutcracker and the Mouse King - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nutcracker_and_the_Mouse_King)

Well done, **Prof. P.**!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/53 "2016-12-16T13:29:02Z")

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Yay! And now (consulting EH’s chart of wonders) a letter we haven’t used since June…

I am H!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/54 "2016-12-16T17:18:43Z")

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1. Is there a museum and a Junior High School named after you here in Austin, Texas, where you published a magazine called (seriously)“Rolling Stone”?

2. Are you good at removing enormous fangs?

3. Did you try to steal a fortune in bonds on Christmas Eve?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/55 "2016-12-16T17:47:39Z")

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IQs:

Is Bruno Ganz one of the most recent actors to portray you?  
Did you supposedly tell Abraham Lincoln to “Get down, you damn fool”?  
Are you that person’s literary dad?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/56 "2016-12-16T20:41:55Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> 1. Is there a museum and a Junior High School named after you here in Austin, Texas, where you published a magazine called (seriously)“Rolling Stone”?
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> 2. Are you good at removing enormous fangs?
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> 3. Did you try to steal a fortune in bonds on Christmas Eve?

#2. I am not Dr. van Helsing.  
#3. I am not Henry Potter from _It’s A Wonderful Life_.

Take 1 or 2 DQs (If I’m wrong about #3).

Welcome back!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/57 "2016-12-16T20:43:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Is Bruno Ganz one of the most recent actors to portray you?  
> Did you supposedly tell Abraham Lincoln to “Get down, you damn fool”?  
> Are you that person’s literary dad?

#1. I am not Hitler. (Take a DQ, if I’m wrong.)  
Take 2 DQs for the others. (I’m sure I should know these.)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/58 "2016-12-16T23:38:48Z")

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IQ1: Were you the only person who has been elected governor of two states?  
IQ2: Did you become US president after losing the popular vote?  
IQ3: Did your brother Arthur’s widow become your first wife?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/59 "2016-12-16T23:44:36Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the only person who has been elected governor of two states?  
> IQ2: Did you become US president after losing the popular vote?  
> IQ3: Did your brother Arthur’s widow become your first wife?

#2. I am not Benjamin Harrison.  
Take 2 DQs for the others.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/60 "2016-12-17T01:22:21Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the only person who has been elected governor of two states?  
> IQ2: Did you become US president after losing the popular vote?  
> IQ3: Did your brother Arthur’s widow become your first wife?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> #2. I am not Benjamin Harrison.  
> Take 2 DQs for the others.

Sam Houston (Tennessee and Texas).  
Not whom I was thinking of, but a valid answer.  
Henry VIII of England.  
DQ1: Real?  
DQ2: Male?  
IQ1: Do you dally and gather and pluck and shine?  
IQ2: Did you write a book in which the number ((six to the sixth power) to the sixth power) was important?  
IQ3: Were you the main character of _Centerburg Tales_?  
IQ3:

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