# Botticelli - Dec. 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 8, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212 "2016-12-08T16:09:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/121 "2016-12-22T22:11:41Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with W
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. Not American
7. Died since 1900
8. Did not win a major award in his field
9. European
10. Not known for the visual arts (theater, TV, film, photography, painting, sculpture, dance, etc.)
11. Died before 1964
12. Not a musician
13. Born West of Vienna
14. Born North of Vienna
15. Author
16. British

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/122 "2016-12-23T05:06:16Z")

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Swept all three of mine.

IQs:

A British author, did Malcolm McDowell play you in a movie?  
Did you play the bad guy in that movie?  
An American writer, did you share the same unusual first name as a popular singer?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/123 "2016-12-23T13:59:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Swept all three of mine.
> 
> IQs:
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> A British author, did Malcolm McDowell play you in a movie?  
> Did you play the bad guy in that movie?  
> An American writer, did you share the same unusual first name as a popular singer?

_Time After Time_ is a perennial favorite.

1. I am not H. G. Wells.
2. I am not David Warner.  
Take a DQ for #3.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/124 "2016-12-23T16:42:24Z")

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Correct on the first two (I love that movie, too - saw it quite a bit in the late Seventies when it was on heavy rotation on HBO). The third is Tennessee Williams/Tennessee Ernie Ford.

DQs:

Best known for fiction?  
Greatest fame before 1939?

One DQ reserved.

IQs:

Did you and Nicholas Katzenbach once face off?  
Did Mel Gibson portray you in a VERY historically inaccurate movie?  
Did you die in the White House in 1862?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/125 "2016-12-23T19:02:13Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with W
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. Not American
7. Died since 1900
8. Did not win a major award in his field
9. European
10. Not known for the visual arts (theater, TV, film, photography, painting, sculpture, dance, etc.)
11. Died before 1964
12. Not a musician
13. Born West of Vienna
14. Born North of Vienna
15. Author
16. British
17. Best known for fiction
18. Greatest fame from about 1937 onward

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/126 "2016-12-23T19:04:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you and Nicholas Katzenbach once face off?  
> Did Mel Gibson portray you in a VERY historically inaccurate movie?  
> Did you die in the White House in 1862?

#2. I am not William Wallace, from that epic film _Brainfart_, er, Braveheart.  
#3. I am not Willie Lincoln.

Take 1 DQ.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/127 "2016-12-23T19:41:52Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you and Nicholas Katzenbach once face off? - George Wallace: [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/05/10/us/KATZENBACH1-obit/KATZENBACH1-obit-jumbo.jpg](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/05/10/us/KATZENBACH1-obit/KATZENBACH1-obit-jumbo.jpg). Katzenbach was a top DOJ official at the time, and later Attorney General.  
Did Mel Gibson portray you in a VERY historically inaccurate movie? - Yes, William Wallace.  
Did you die in the White House in 1862? - Yes, William “Willie” Wallace Lincoln.

Wallace x3!

DQ:

Novelist?

One DQ still reserved.

IQs:

Were you a British writer whose first name is usually considered a woman’s first name?  
Did you write about Lincoln’s 1864 reelection?  
Did you play Commodore Matt Decker?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/128 "2016-12-23T21:43:04Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with W
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. Not American
7. Died since 1900
8. Did not win a major award in his field
9. European
10. Not known for the visual arts (theater, TV, film, photography, painting, sculpture, dance, etc.)
11. Died before 1964
12. Not a musician
13. Born West of Vienna
14. Born North of Vienna
15. Author
16. British
17. Best known for fiction
18. Greatest fame from about 1937 onward
19. Novelist

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/129 "2016-12-23T21:44:06Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a British writer whose first name is usually considered a woman’s first name?  
> Did you write about Lincoln’s 1864 reelection?  
> Did you play Commodore Matt Decker?

1. I am not Evelyn Waugh.  
Take 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/130 "2016-12-24T04:30:56Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a British writer whose first name is usually considered a woman’s first name? - Yes, Evelyn Waugh.  
Did you write about Lincoln’s 1864 reelection? - American historian Joseph Waugh.  
Did you play Commodore Matt Decker? - William Windom, on the original _Star Trek_.

I now have three DQs. I release them, one per customer, to other players. (Thought for sure Evelyn Waugh was the guy!)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/131 "2016-12-24T13:24:26Z")

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I can only think of one man, and I’m pretty sure he died after 1964.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/132 "2016-12-24T18:37:02Z")

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Might as well phrase it as an IQ, if you’re only “pretty sure.”

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/133 "2016-12-24T22:07:15Z")

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IQ: Did you write about the Drones Club?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/134 "2016-12-24T22:24:08Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ: Did you write about the Drones Club?

I am not P. G. Wodehouse.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/135 "2016-12-25T14:42:41Z")

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IQ:

Did you write _The Once and Future King_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/136 "2016-12-25T15:16:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQ:
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> Did you write _The Once and Future King_?

I am not T. H. White.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/137 "2016-12-25T17:33:13Z")

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Aw, fudge. Thought I had it.

Merry Christmas to all my fellow Dopers celebrating it!

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/138 "2016-12-25T23:16:15Z")

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DQ (borrowed from EH): Best known for genre fiction? (Mysteries, SF, westerns, spy novels…)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/139 "2016-12-25T23:25:42Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with W
4. Dead
5. Known for the Arts
6. Not American
7. Died since 1900
8. Did not win a major award in his field
9. European
10. Not known for the visual arts (theater, TV, film, photography, painting, sculpture, dance, etc.)
11. Died before 1964
12. Not a musician
13. Born West of Vienna
14. Born North of Vienna
15. Author
16. British
17. Best known for fiction
18. Greatest fame from about 1937 onward
19. Novelist
20. Best known for fantasy genre  
And, as usual, those who earned a DQ this round can now play the “Are you Firstname Lastname?” final question. You have until noon EST on Tuesday, Dec. 27th. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Holidays!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2016/774212/140 "2016-12-26T16:09:37Z")

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Stumped. There was a British fantasy/horror writer who inspired H.P. Lovecraft, but I can’t remember his name, and it would’ve been well before 1937, I think.

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