# Botticelli - Dec 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 4, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225 "2020-12-04T19:33:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 19

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/361 "2020-12-19T18:15:40Z")

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~~**A**~~  
1 - Real  
2 - First name starts with A  
3 - Male  
4 - Dead  
5 - Not known from the Arts  
6 - Not American  
7 - Not born after 1900  
8 - Known (though not primarily) for politics  
9 - European  
10 - Have not died (not even once!) since 2000  
11 - Probably best known for a single incident  
12 - Not known for the Sciences  
13 - The single incident was a positive one for this person  
14 - Did not die after 1900  
15 - From the UK  
16 - Employed by the government at the time of the incident  
17 - Associated with London (though primarily with another place)  
18 - Not royalty  
19 - The single event did not occur before 1800  
20 - The single event still bears relevance today

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/362 "2020-12-19T18:34:59Z")

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By my count:  
The Prof has 2 unasked DQs.  
KO has 1.  
Chock has 2.  
DLR has 1.

Seven hours to go.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/363 "2020-12-19T18:36:26Z")

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DQ: Was the incident criminal in nature?

holding a DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/364 "2020-12-19T18:40:19Z")

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DQs:

1. Born after 1850?
2. Known for business?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/365 "2020-12-19T18:45:27Z")

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~~**A**~~  
1 - Real  
2 - First name starts with A  
3 - Male  
4 - Dead  
5 - Not known from the Arts  
6 - Not American  
7 - Not born after 1900  
8 - Known (though not primarily) for politics  
9 - European  
10 - Have not died (not even once!) since 2000  
11 - Probably best known for a single incident  
12 - Not known for the Sciences  
13 - The single incident was a positive one for this person  
14 - Did not die after 1900  
15 - From the UK  
16 - Employed by the government at the time of the incident  
17 - Associated with London (though primarily with another place)  
18 - Not royalty  
19 - The single event did not occur before 1800  
20 - The single event still bears relevance today  
21 - The incident was not criminal in nature  
22 - Not born after 1850?  
23 - Not known for business

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> holding a DQ

By my count, you have none left.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/366 "2020-12-19T19:33:04Z")

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I assume the question mark after clue 22 was just copied from **Prof. P.** , and ought not to be there.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/367 "2020-12-19T19:53:25Z")

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You assume correctly. Bad editing on my part.

~~**A**~~  
1 - Real  
2 - First name starts with A  
3 - Male  
4 - Dead  
5 - Not known from the Arts  
6 - Not American  
7 - Not born after 1900  
8 - Known (though not primarily) for politics  
9 - European  
10 - Have not died (not even once!) since 2000  
11 - Probably best known for a single incident  
12 - Not known for the Sciences  
13 - The single incident was a positive one for this person  
14 - Did not die after 1900  
15 - From the UK  
16 - Employed by the government at the time of the incident  
17 - Associated with London (though primarily with another place)  
18 - Not royalty  
19 - The single event did not occur before 1800  
20 - The single event still bears relevance today  
21 - The incident was not criminal in nature  
22 - Not born after 1850  
23 - Not known for business

Still waiting for DQs from Chock (2) and DLR (1).

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/368 "2020-12-19T21:23:02Z")

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DQ: Scottish?  
DQ: Single event occured after 1850?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/369 "2020-12-19T21:55:08Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> > [@Knowed\_Out](#):
> >
> > holding a DQ
> 
> By my count, you have none left.

Whoops, OK.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/370 "2020-12-19T22:26:08Z")

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~~**A**~~  
1 - Real  
2 - First name starts with A  
3 - Male  
4 - Dead  
5 - Not known from the Arts  
6 - Not American  
7 - Not born after 1900  
8 - Known (though not primarily) for politics  
9 - European  
10 - Have not died (not even once!) since 2000  
11 - Probably best known for a single incident  
12 - Not known for the Sciences  
13 - The single incident was a positive one for this person  
14 - Did not die after 1900  
15 - From the UK  
16 - Employed by the government at the time of the incident  
17 - Associated with London (though primarily with another place)  
18 - Not royalty  
19 - The single event did not occur before 1800  
20 - The single event still bears relevance today  
21 - The incident was not criminal in nature  
22 - Not born after 1850  
23 - Not known for business  
24 - Not Scottish  
25 - Single event did not occur after 1850

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/371 "2020-12-19T23:10:48Z")

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Hmmm. Military would seem to be likely.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/372 "2020-12-19T23:20:16Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ.  
> Not 'Arrison Ford – or DQ, if you insist.  
> Not Marc Antony.

1 (said A=A) was Ayn Rand; 2 (played Han Solo) was Alden Ehrenreich (in _Solo_).

DQs:  
1. (since the Prof. has suggested it…) known for something military-related?  
2. primarily associated with a place outside of the UK but in the British empire?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/373 "2020-12-20T02:43:53Z")

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~~**A**~~  
1 - Real  
2 - First name starts with A  
3 - Male  
4 - Dead  
5 - Not known from the Arts  
6 - Not American  
7 - Not born after 1900  
8 - Known (though not primarily) for politics  
9 - European  
10 - Have not died (not even once!) since 2000  
11 - Probably best known for a single incident  
12 - Not known for the Sciences  
13 - The single incident was a positive one for this person  
14 - Did not die after 1900  
15 - From the UK  
16 - Employed by the government at the time of the incident  
17 - Associated with London (though primarily with another place)  
18 - Not royalty  
19 - The single event did not occur before 1800  
20 - The single event still bears relevance today  
21 - The incident was not criminal in nature  
22 - Not born after 1850  
23 - Not known for business  
24 - Not Scottish  
25 - Single event did not occur after 1850  
26 - Known for something military-related  
27 - Not primarily associated with a place which was outside of the UK but in the British empire

Seven people earned DQs this game (the Prof, KO, Chock, kit, EH, DLR, and Miss T) – been a while since I last saw that many! Please ask your “Firstname Lastname” questions by 2145 EST tomorrow (20 Dec).

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/374 "2020-12-20T03:41:41Z")

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If it wasn’t for that non-royalty part, I’d be guessing Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington. Ponder, ponder…

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/375 "2020-12-20T08:11:01Z")

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Go for it, Prof. He was nobility, but not royalty.

I kept going back and forth on #24 if I should ask Scottish or Irish. That would have helped, if Irish got a yes response. I can’t think of anyone else that ticks all the boxes.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/376 "2020-12-20T15:24:42Z")

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Right. Thanks, Chock, I always have confused the two.

DQ: Art thou the Victor of Waterloo, Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/377 "2020-12-20T15:57:57Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> DQ: Art thou the Victor of Waterloo, Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington?

Yes! I am Field Marshal ~~**A**~~ rthur Wellesley, Duke and Marquess of Wellington, Marquess Douro, Earl of Wellington, Viscount Wellington, Baron Douro, KG, GCB, KCH, PC, FRS, [&c, &c](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms,_titles,_honours_and_styles_of_Arthur_Wellesley,_1st_Duke_of_Wellington#Titles,_honours_and_styles), twice Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Commander-in-Chief of the British Army, and victor of the Battle of Waterloo.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/378 "2020-12-20T16:09:07Z")

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Congratulations @Prof.Pepperwinkle!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/379 "2020-12-20T16:13:19Z")

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Thank you!

I am  
[![](https://www.drodd.com/images15/letter-t4.png) ](https://www.drodd.com/images15/letter-t4.png)

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-dec-2020/927225/380 "2020-12-20T16:21:53Z")

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IQs

1. Were you a cartoonist and short story writer, who often characterized men as being fairly ineffectual?
2. Did you write _The Snob Papers_?
3. Is your archnemesis a 10 year old boy?

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