# Botticelli - December 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 2, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153 "2014-12-02T19:01:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 23

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/441 "2014-12-18T20:40:48Z")

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SUMMARY

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with “S”
4. Dead
5. American
6. Known for the arts, broadly defined
7. Died after 1964
8. Widely known for a SORT of “performing art”… but that’s not all I’m known for.
9. Born East of the Mississippi
10. Died before 2000 (but not much before)
11. Widely known for a performing art in which I was NOT seen
12. Not connected to sports
13. Last name starts with “SA-SM”
14. Well known as an author, as well as for my “performing art”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/442 "2014-12-18T20:50:44Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you invent the Cherokee syllabary?
2. Do you sleep on top of your doghouse?
3. Were you the first Christian martyr?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/443 "2014-12-18T20:52:41Z")

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IQ1: Did you write the \*Illuminatus \*trilogy with Robert Anton Wilson?  
IQ2: Did the write _The Jungle_?  
IQ3: Did you write _The Catcher in the Rye_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/444 "2014-12-18T21:45:25Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you play a farm hand, a police chief, and a Mexican outlaw?  
> IQ2: Were you a former paratrooper who hosted a TV show telling strange stories?  
> IQ3: Did you sing about a hick who met a girl in a bar, married her, and had a son?

> [@astorian](#):
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> Don’t know #1
> 
> Not Rod Serling
> 
> Can’t guess #3.
> 
> So, two DQs for you

Rod Steiger (_Oklahoma!_, _In the Heat of the Night_, and _Duck, You Sucker!_).  
Correct on Rod Serling.  
Cal Smith (“Country Bumpkin”).  
Two DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Did you write a classic history of Nazi Germany?  
IQ2: Was _King Solomon’s Mines_ written as the result of a wager as to whether its author could write a book as good as yours?  
IQ3: Did Barbra Streisand star in a movie based on one of your short stories?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/445 "2014-12-18T22:28:11Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you invent the Cherokee syllabary?
> 2. Do you sleep on top of your doghouse?
> 3. Were you the first Christian martyr?

Not Sequoia, Snoopy or St. Stephen

I did briefly consider using St. Stephem since the day after Xmas is St. Stepehn’s Day

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/446 "2014-12-18T22:29:16Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write the \*Illuminatus \*trilogy with Robert Anton Wilson?  
> IQ2: Did the write _The Jungle_?  
> IQ3: Did you write _The Catcher in the Rye_?

Not Upton Sinclair or JD Salinger. Take a DQ for #1

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/447 "2014-12-18T22:31:00Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write a classic history of Nazi Germany?  
> IQ2: Was _King Solomon’s Mines_ written as the result of a wager as to whether its author could write a book as good as yours?  
> IQ3: Did Barbra Streisand star in a movie based on one of your short stories?

Not William Shirer or Isaac Bashevis (Yentl) Singer.

I don’t know who H. Rider Haggard made a bet with, so take a DQ for #2

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/448 "2014-12-18T22:48:10Z")

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Correct on all three.

IQs:

1. Did you play Hazel on the TV series of that name?
2. Were you the original choice to play Dorothy in the movie _The Wizard of Oz_?
3. Are you Warren Beatty’s famous sister?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/449 "2014-12-19T00:05:36Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Correct on all three.
> 
> IQs:
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> 1. Did you play Hazel on the TV series of that name?
> 2. Were you the original choice to play Dorothy in the movie _The Wizard of Oz_?
> 3. Are you Warren Beatty’s famous sister?

I AM serious- and don’t call me Shirley Booth, Shirley Temple or Shirley Maclaine.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/450 "2014-12-19T02:26:50Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you survey and report on historians’ opinions of the various U.S. Presidents? - Yes, Arthur Schlesinger Jr.  
Does a major financial industry reform bill bear your name? - The Sherman Antitrust Act did not reform the financial industry, as such; I was thinking of Sarbanes-Oxley, named in part after Sen. Paul Sarbanes (D-Md.)  
Did Christopher Walken play this character’s laconic husband? - In the TV movie _Sarah, Plain and Tall_ (Glenn Close played Sarah).

DQs:

Did voiceover work?  
Wrote fiction?

IQs:

Did you write “The SantaLand Diaries”?  
Did John Belushi play you in a spoof last episode of a beloved TV show?  
Did you write _Swimming to Cambodia_?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/451 "2014-12-19T03:20:05Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write a classic history of Nazi Germany?  
> IQ2: Was _King Solomon’s Mines_ written as the result of a wager as to whether its author could write a book as good as yours?  
> IQ3: Did Barbra Streisand star in a movie based on one of your short stories?

> [@astorian](#):
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> Not William Shirer or Isaac Bashevis (Yentl) Singer.
> 
> I don’t know who H. Rider Haggard made a bet with, so take a DQ for #2

Correct.  
Haggard made a bet with his brother as to whether he could write a book as good as _Treasure Island_, by Robert Louis Stevenson.  
Correct.  
DQ reserved.  
IQ1: Did you write about the King of Currumpaw?  
IQ2: Were you really Ross Bagdasarian?  
IQ3: Did you write a well-known song with Bagdasarian, who was your cousin?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/452 "2014-12-19T04:05:10Z")

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Correct again, right down to the punchline.

IQs:

1. Did you direct _Rosewater_?
2. Did you play a man who got the chance to see what life would be like if he had never been born?
3. Were you a mouse who was adopted into a human family?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/453 "2014-12-19T13:10:48Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write the Illuminatus trilogy with Robert Anton Wilson?  
> IQ2: Did the write The Jungle?  
> IQ3: Did you write The Catcher in the Rye?
> 
> Not Upton Sinclair or JD Salinger. Take a DQ for #1

Robert Shea

2 DQs reserved

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/454 "2014-12-19T13:18:58Z")

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SUMMARY

1. Real
2. Male
3. Last name starts with “S”
4. Dead
5. American
6. Known for the arts, broadly defined
7. Died after 1964
8. Widely known for a SORT of “performing art”… but that’s not all I’m known for.
9. Born East of the Mississippi
10. Died before 2000 (but not much before)
11. Widely known for a performing art in which I was NOT seen
12. Not connected to sports
13. Last name starts with “SA-SM”
14. Well known as an author, as well as for my “performing art”
15. A writer of reality-based fiction
16. I’ve never voiced cartoon characters, but my speaking voice is well-known from several media

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/455 "2014-12-19T13:20:14Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you write “The SantaLand Diaries”?  
> Did John Belushi play you in a spoof last episode of a beloved TV show?  
> Did you write _Swimming to Cambodia_?

Not SPalding GRay

Take two DQs for#1 and #2

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/456 "2014-12-19T13:21:18Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write about the King of Currumpaw?  
> IQ2: Were you really Ross Bagdasarian?  
> IQ3: Did you write a well-known song with Bagdasarian, who was your cousin?

Not David Seville or William Saroyan

Take a DQ for #1

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/457 "2014-12-19T13:22:19Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> Correct again, right down to the punchline.
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you direct _Rosewater_?
> 2. Did you play a man who got the chance to see what life would be like if he had never been born?
> 3. Were you a mouse who was adopted into a human family?

Not Jon Stewart, Jimmy Stewart or Stuart Little

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/458 "2014-12-19T14:12:06Z")

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Again, all correct.

IQs:

1. Did you co-write _Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!_?
2. Did you co-write _Winter Wonderland_?
3. Did you co-write _Frosty the Snowman_?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/459 "2014-12-19T14:34:10Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> Again, all correct.
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you co-write _Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!_?
> 2. Did you co-write _Winter Wonderland_?
> 3. Did you co-write _Frosty the Snowman_?

Not Sammy Cahn or Jule Styne.

Take two DQs for #2 and #3

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/460 "2014-12-19T14:40:49Z")

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DQ: Associated with news broadcasting/opinion?

1 DQ left

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