# Botticelli - December 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 2, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153 "2014-12-02T19:01:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/141 "2014-12-08T01:17:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you star in I Was A Teenage Werewolf?
> 2. Were you the title character in a juvenile musical written by Paul Williams?
> 3. Did you hang around with Secret Squirrel?
> 
> … and that’s a complete blank. Take 3 DQs.

#1 was Michael Landon.  
#2 was Bugsy Malone.  
#3 was Morocco Mole.

3 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/142 "2014-12-08T01:31:28Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ1) Were you the older sister of King Arthur?
> 
> IQ2) Do you have a jackknife that you keep out of sight?
> 
> IQ3) Did you hit a famous walkoff homer over Yogi Berra’s head at Forbes Field?

1. Morgan le Fey?
2. This is bugging me but take a DQ
3. Mickey Mantle?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/143 "2014-12-08T01:38:21Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> 1: Were you the highest ranking person taken prisoner by Henran Cortez?  
> 2: Were you the Red Baron?  
> 3: Did you unexpectedly become Thane of Cawdor?

1. Yes, I am Moctezuma II, aka Motecuhzoma Xocoyotzin.  
Well done, that was quick! Fangaga you are next with the letter N.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/144 "2014-12-08T01:46:14Z")

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Wow. Good guess, fanganga! I wouldn’t have come up with him.

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/145 "2014-12-08T02:24:13Z")

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You see why I used the footnote? 🙂 Should I have answered it any differently, or without the footnote?

So, in this case there was a last name for him, though I didn’t know that until after I selected him and read up on him.

If a person is selected with only one name, like Charlemagne:

1. How should one answer if the question “Last name starts with C?” is asked
2. How should one answer if the question “First name starts with C?” is asked

If Hal 9000 were selected, how should one respond to “Male?”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/146 "2014-12-08T02:58:41Z")

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Oh, you answered that one correctly. The footnote was elegant.  
Regarding Charlemagne or others like him, the answer would be:  
“Only name starts with C.”  
Regarding Hal 9000, the answer would have to be “Not Male” since it is, after all, neuter.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/147 "2014-12-08T03:09:09Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did Stephen of Blois fight you for a top job?  
> IQ2: Are you known for your work with peas?  
> IQ3: Did you have a 12-string guitar that was like nothing David Allan Coe ever heard?

> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
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> hmm… blanking on 1 and 3, was IQ2 Mandel, of genetics fame?

Empress Matilda, aka Maude (the top job in question being Ruler of England).  
Gregor Mendel, but close enough.  
Roger McGuinn (quoting from Coe’s song “Willie, Waylon and Me”).

> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
>
> You see why I used the footnote? 🙂 Should I have answered it any differently, or without the footnote?
> 
> So, in this case there was a last name for him, though I didn’t know that until after I selected him and read up on him.
> 
> If a person is selected with only one name, like Charlemagne:
> 
> 1. How should one answer if the question “Last name starts with C?” is asked
> 2. How should one answer if the question “First name starts with C?” is asked
> 
> If Hal 9000 were selected, how should one respond to “Male?”

For the first question, in cases like this I say “American, for certain values of ‘American.’”

For the second, Prof P’s “Only name is…” has been the usual answer in this case. (Though I might shorten that to just “My name begins…”)

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/148 "2014-12-08T09:17:36Z")

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Thanks,

My other two were Manfred von Richtoven and the eponymous character of the Scottish Play.

My letter is **N** , have at it!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/149 "2014-12-08T13:10:16Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a legendary Russian ballet dancer?
2. Did you write _Candy Is Dandy_?
3. Did Archie Goodwin work for you?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/150 "2014-12-08T13:43:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you and fellow Grateful Dead drummer Bill Kreutzmann known as “the rhythm devils”?  
> IQ2: Are you a drummer for T. Rex who shares the name of a knockout drink?  
> IQ3: Were you considered part of the Jewish Mafia along with Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel?
> 
> Take a DQ for 1 and 3, I’m guessing Mickey Finn for IQ2.

Mickey Hart, correct, Mickey Cohen

On to N…

IQ1: Are you a TV legal analyst who used to host a show with renowned O.J. Simpson lawyer Johnny Cochran?  
IQ2: Are you the daughter of a legendary crooner, and were your boots made for walkin’?  
IQ3: Are you a figure skater whose knee was damaged by the ex-husband of a skating rival?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/151 "2014-12-08T14:42:42Z")

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IQ1: Were you Olga, Tatiana, Alexei. and Maria’s father?  
IQ2: Are you a kid with a robot pet?  
IQ3: Did you play a kid with a robot pet?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/152 "2014-12-08T15:38:16Z")

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IQ1) Did you iwn the Masters after the Great White Shark had an historic meltdown?

IQ2) Did you die in the company of your mistress, Megan Marshack?

IQ3) Did your one and only hit single in the US come from a great album called _ **The Pleasure Principle** _?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/153 "2014-12-08T16:41:02Z")

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Good job, **fanganga**!

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> …Regarding Charlemagne or others like him, the answer would be:  
> “Only name starts with C.”  
> Regarding [HAL] 9000, the answer would have to be “Not Male” since it is, after all, neuter.

I agree with all this. And I’d say Montezuma/Moctecuzoma was not American (that is, a citizen of the U.S.), in accordance with past Botticelli practice. He was Aztec (or Mexica).

On to N.

IQs:

Did a cartoonist joke about you having a cute little ladylike gun?  
Were you FDR’s first VP?  
Did you have to leave home at a young age, breaking the heart of your surrogate father?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/154 "2014-12-08T16:51:53Z")

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IQ1. Did you gain notoriety by having octuplets?  
IQ2. Did you publish a book of prophecies in the 16th century?  
IQ3. Is your most recent single a take-off on Sir Mix-A-Lot’s Baby Got Back?

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/155 "2014-12-08T17:56:23Z")

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IQ1: Were you one of the inventors of calculus?  
IQ2: Did you write _The Integral Trees_?  
IQ3: Did you open and operate the Leftorium?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/156 "2014-12-08T22:42:57Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a legendary Russian ballet dancer?
> 2. Did you write _Candy Is Dandy_?
> 3. Did Archie Goodwin work for you?

1: I am not Rudolf Nuryev.  
2: pass  
3: pass

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> Mickey Hart, correct, Mickey Cohen
> 
> On to N…
> 
> IQ1: Are you a TV legal analyst who used to host a show with renowned O.J. Simpson lawyer Johnny Cochran?  
> IQ2: Are you the daughter of a legendary crooner, and were your boots made for walkin’?  
> IQ3: Are you a figure skater whose knee was damaged by the ex-husband of a skating rival?

1: I don’t know, but I’m sure it’s a Nancy.  
2: I am not Nancy Sinatra.  
3: The rival was Tonya Harding, the other was Nancy…Writebol?

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you Olga, Tatiana, Alexei. and Maria’s father?  
> IQ2: Are you a kid with a robot pet?  
> IQ3: Did you play a kid with a robot pet?

1: pass  
2: I am not … Jimmy Neutron?  
3: pass

> [@astorian](#):
>
> IQ1) Did you iwn the Masters after the Great White Shark had an historic meltdown?
> 
> IQ2) Did you die in the company of your mistress, Megan Marshack?
> 
> IQ3) Did your one and only hit single in the US come from a great album called _ **The Pleasure Principle** _?

1: I am not … Jack Niklaus?  
2: pass  
3: pass

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> I agree with all this. And I’d say Montezuma/Moctecuzoma was not American (that is, a citizen of the U.S.), in accordance with past Botticelli practice. He was Aztec (or Mexica).
> 
> On to N.

I had trouble when I picked Geronimo - born on territory belonging first to Mexico, then the US, and I couldn’t find out if he was ever considered a citizen of any nation other than the Apache.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did a cartoonist joke about you having a cute little ladylike gun?  
> Were you FDR’s first VP?  
> Did you have to leave home at a young age, breaking the heart of your surrogate father?

3 DQs

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> IQ1. Did you gain notoriety by having octuplets?  
> IQ2. Did you publish a book of prophecies in the 16th century?  
> IQ3. Is your most recent single a take-off on Sir Mix-A-Lot’s Baby Got Back?

1: Pass  
2: I am not Nostradamus  
3: Pass

> [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you one of the inventors of calculus?  
> IQ2: Did you write _The Integral Trees_?  
> IQ3: Did you open and operate the Leftorium?

1: I am not Sir Isaac Newton  
2: pass  
3: I am not Ned Flanders.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/157 "2014-12-08T22:54:05Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> 1: Pass  
> 2: I am not Nostradamus  
> 3: Pass

1 is Nadya Suleman aka OctoMom.  
3 is Nicki Minaj, whose latest hit was Anaconda (My anaconda don’t want none unless you got buns, hun.)

DQ: Are you fictional?  
DQ: Are you a man?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/158 "2014-12-08T22:56:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a legendary Russian ballet dancer?
> 2. Did you write Candy Is Dandy?
> 3. Did Archie Goodwin work for you?
> 
> 1: I am not Rudolf Nuryev.  
> 2: pass  
> 3: pass

Correct on Nureyev. #2 was Ogden Nash. #3 was Nero Wolfe.

2 DQs reserved.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/159 "2014-12-08T22:59:05Z")

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My letter is \*\* N \*\* and:

1: I am **real**  
2: I am **male**

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2014/706153/160 "2014-12-08T23:08:50Z")

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DQs:

1. Living?
2. American?

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