# Botticelli - December 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 2, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317 "2017-12-02T08:30:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/1 "2017-12-02T08:30:14Z")

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Ok, I’m R.

Nah, just kidding - I’ll be I.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/2 "2017-12-02T14:22:35Z")

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Grats DC!

IQ1: Did you claim to write Howard Hughes’s autobiography?  
IQ2: Are you the secret identity of the mascot of Marvel Comics’ _Not Brand Ecch_?  
IQ3: Did you write _Rip Van Winkle_?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/3 "2017-12-02T15:01:56Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you an English 17th Century Architect who designed St. Paul’s Church?
2. Were you more qualified than Michael Cassio?
3. Did you write the hymn _When lawless men succeed_?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/4 "2017-12-02T19:43:18Z")

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Well, this shouldn’t take long - can’t even think of any guesses for these. Oh, wait - was it Washington Irving who wrote Rip Van Winkle? And for When Lawless Men Succeed I’ll take a wild stab at Irving Berlin. Take two or three DQs each, accordingly.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/5 "2017-12-02T22:37:03Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you an English 17th Century Architect who designed St. Paul’s Church?
> 2. Were you more qualified than Michael Cassio?
> 3. Did you write the hymn _When lawless men succeed_?

#1 was Inigo Jones.  
#2 was Iago, from Shakespeare’s _Othello_.  
#3 was Christopher Idle.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Alive?
3. Male?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/6 "2017-12-02T23:59:55Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you claim to write Howard Hughes’s autobiography?  
> IQ2: Are you the secret identity of the mascot of Marvel Comics’ _Not Brand Ecch_?  
> IQ3: Did you write _Rip Van Winkle_?

Clifford Irving, Irving Forbush, correct

Irving x 3!

DQ: Last name start with I?

holding a DQ

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/7 "2017-12-03T00:12:43Z")

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IQ1: Did you play rhythm guitar for Guns ‘n’ Roses?  
IQ2: Do you play Heimdall in the Thor movies?  
IQ3: Were you the vocalist for The Stooges?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/8 "2017-12-03T00:22:21Z")

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1. Real
2. Dead
3. Male
4. First name starts with I

KO, I have a feeling you’re getting three more DQs, as I don’t even know the gender of Heimdall, but I’ll take a guess at Isla Fisher anyway. Can’t even make a viable guess for the other two.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/9 "2017-12-03T04:00:09Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you play rhythm guitar for Guns ‘n’ Roses?  
> IQ2: Do you play Heimdall in the Thor movies?  
> IQ3: Were you the vocalist for The Stooges?

Izzy Stradlin, Idris Elba, Iggy Pop

DQ: European?  
DQ: Known for the Arts?

holding 2 DQs

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/10 "2017-12-03T09:04:03Z")

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1. Real
2. Dead
3. Male
4. First name starts with I
5. European
6. Known for the Arts (on a general interpretation of the term)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/11 "2017-12-03T15:04:13Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you have a hit in the US in the 1960’s with _Society’s Child_?
2. Did you hide from a nuclear blast in a refrigerator?
3. Does legend have you selling your jewels to fund Christopher Columbus?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/12 "2017-12-03T17:09:28Z")

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DQ: From the UK?

holding 1 DQ

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/13 "2017-12-03T21:01:31Z")

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November’s thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840307](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840307)

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you an English 17th Century Architect who designed St. Paul’s Church?..

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> #1 was Inigo Jones…

If you mean St. Paul’s Cathedral in London, 'twas Sir Christopher Wren wot designed it.

IQs:

Did River Phoenix play you as a young man?  
Were you Sid Caesar’s female partner in comedy?  
Were you derisively known for your extensive shoe collection?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/14 "2017-12-04T01:01:19Z")

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Inigo Jones designed St. Paul’s Cathedral, Covent Garden.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/15 "2017-12-04T04:22:33Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Inigo Jones designed St. Paul’s Cathedral, Covent Garden.

Not a cathedral (that is, the seat of a bishop): [St Paul's, Covent Garden - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s,_Covent_Garden)

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/16 "2017-12-04T10:21:41Z")

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1. Real
2. Dead
3. Male
4. First name starts with I
5. European
6. Known for the Arts (on a general interpretation of the term)
7. Not from the UK

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you have a hit in the US in the 1960’s with _Society’s Child_?
> 2. Did you hide from a nuclear blast in a refrigerator?
> 3. Does legend have you selling your jewels to fund Christopher Columbus?

Is number 3 Queen Isabella of Spain? I don’t know the others, so at least 2 DQs to you.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did River Phoenix play you as a young man?  
> Were you Sid Caesar’s female partner in comedy?  
> Were you derisively known for your extensive shoe collection?

Not Imelda Marcos, but take 2 DQs.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not a cathedral (that is, the seat of a bishop): [St Paul's, Covent Garden - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Paul%27s,_Covent_Garden)

No indeed, but to be fair the original question did indeed reference St Paul’s Church (not cathedral), so was completely fair. I did wonder if it was an error, but knowing the cathedral was designed by Wren, I suspected it was a different church being referred to.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/17 "2017-12-04T13:04:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you have a hit in the US in the 1960’s with Society’s Child?
> 2. Did you hide from a nuclear blast in a refrigerator?
> 3. Does legend have you selling your jewels to fund Christopher Columbus?  
> Is number 3 Queen Isabella of Spain? I don’t know the others, so at least 2 DQs to you.

#1 was Janis Ian.  
#2 was Indiana Jones in _Indiana Jones & the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull_.  
Correct on Isabella.

DQs:

1. Died before 1900?
2. Known for writing?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/18 "2017-12-04T13:40:49Z")

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Haven’t seen that Indy film, but now you mention it, I possibly should have been able to guess it! List below updated:

1. Real
2. Dead
3. Male
4. First name starts with I
5. European
6. Known for the Arts (on a general interpretation of the term)
7. Not from the UK
8. Died before 1900
9. Known for writing

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/19 "2017-12-04T13:48:59Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you write the James Bond novels?
2. Were you a Nobel Prize-winning author who wrote in Yiddish?
3. Are you the title character of an H. G. Wells novel?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/20 "2017-12-04T14:46:50Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write the James Bond novels?
> 2. Were you a Nobel Prize-winning author who wrote in Yiddish?
> 3. Are you the title character of an H. G. Wells novel?

1. I am not Ian Fleming.
2. I suspect she neither won a Nobel nor wrote in Yiddish, but I’ll take a guess at Iris Murdoch
3. I am not The Invisible Man

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