# Botticelli - December 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 2, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317 "2017-12-02T08:30:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/81 "2017-12-08T13:59:09Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Last name starts with J
3. Female
4. Dead
5. Born before 1950
6. American
7. Born after 1850
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Did not have a famous husband
10. Known for the performing arts
11. Not an actress
12. Not considered a beauty
13. Won a top award in her field, which, in fact, was created for her
14. Singer
15. Not caucasian
16. Not a singer of classical music
17. Died after 1970
18. Not a jazz vocalist

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/82 "2017-12-09T17:50:35Z")

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Caribbean?

holding a DQ

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/83 "2017-12-09T19:33:43Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Last name starts with J
3. Female
4. Dead
5. Born before 1950
6. American
7. Born after 1850
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Did not have a famous husband
10. Known for the performing arts
11. Not an actress
12. Not considered a beauty
13. Won a top award in her field, which, in fact, was created for her
14. Singer
15. Not caucasian
16. Not a singer of classical music
17. Died after 1970
18. Not a jazz vocalist
19. Not Caribbean

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/84 "2017-12-09T22:04:41Z")

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Country artist?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/85 "2017-12-09T22:43:45Z")

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DQs:

1. Real
2. Last name starts with J
3. Female
4. Dead
5. Born before 1950
6. American
7. Born after 1850
8. Best known for the Arts
9. Did not have a famous husband
10. Known for the performing arts
11. Not an actress
12. Not considered a beauty
13. Won a top award in her field, which, in fact, was created for her
14. Singer
15. Not caucasian
16. Not a singer of classical music
17. Died after 1970
18. Not a jazz vocalist
19. Not Caribbean
20. Not a country artist

You all now have until 6pm Sunday EST to guess a FirstName LastName question.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/86 "2017-12-10T02:26:44Z")

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You got several good Yoyodyne Johns; one of those you left out was my personal favorite, John Smallberries (I once, on a dare, made a restaurant reservation in that name). But it’s all good.

And… are you Mahalia Jackson?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/87 "2017-12-10T13:18:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> You got several good Yoyodyne Johns; one of those you left out was my personal favorite, John Smallberries (I once, on a dare, made a restaurant reservation in that name). But it’s all good.
> 
> And… are you Mahalia Jackson?

Hallelujah! Yes, I am the Queen of Gospel, Mahalia Jackson! Well done, EH!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/88 "2017-12-11T05:17:20Z")

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All right! Thanks, **Prof. P.** I thought of her because of a scene in _Selma_: late one night MLK, worn down by his cares but unable to sleep, calls Jackson and wakes her up, asking her to sing to him over the phone. She does (and not for the first or the last time either, I gather). Her songs are featured in Spike Lee’s _Jungle Fever_, too.

Our next letter, of course, is

K

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/89 "2017-12-11T12:53:27Z")

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IQ1: Did you play Jerry Seinfeld’s surly neighbor Newman?  
IQ2: Were you the surly head basketball coach of the Indiana Hoosiers from 1971-2000?  
IQ3: Are you the surly former CEO of rap music’s Death Row Records?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/90 "2017-12-11T12:58:56Z")

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I thought of Mahalia because I love her Christmas album.

IQs:

1. Are you a mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper?
2. Are you the really true identity of The Shadow?
3. Are you the secret identity of the original Dr. Fate?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/91 "2017-12-11T17:48:31Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you play Jerry Seinfeld’s surly neighbor Newman?  
> IQ2: Were you the surly head basketball coach of the Indiana Hoosiers from 1971-2000?  
> IQ3: Are you the surly former CEO of rap music’s Death Row Records?

None of the Knights: Wayne, Bobby or Suge.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> …  
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you a mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper?
> 2. Are you the really true identity of The Shadow?
> 3. Are you the secret identity of the original Dr. Fate?

Not Clark Kent, dunno, and dunno.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/92 "2017-12-11T18:20:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you a mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper?
> 2. Are you the really true identity of The Shadow?
> 3. Are you the secret identity of the original Dr. Fate?  
> Not Clark Kent, dunno, and dunno.

The Kents:  
Clark Kent (correct), Kent Allard and Kent Nelson.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/93 "2017-12-11T18:22:52Z")

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IQs:

1. Did Nixon give conflicting accounts as to why he was in Dallas the day you were assassinated?
2. Did you die in an accident at the Chappaquiddick Bridge?
3. Did your career die in the above accident?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/94 "2017-12-11T19:34:48Z")

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IQ1: Did Edmund Gwenn play you in _Miracle on 34th Street_?  
IQ2: Have you played a Doctor Who companion and an adopted daughter of Thanos?  
IQ3: Was Conan the Barbarian’s first appearance in a work by Robert E. Howard a reworked version of you?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/95 "2017-12-11T21:27:09Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did Nixon give conflicting accounts as to why he was in Dallas the day you were assassinated?
> 2. Did you die in an accident at the Chappaquiddick Bridge?
> 3. Did your career die in the above accident?

Not JFK, Joanne Kopechne or Ted Kennedy.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> IQ1: Did Edmund Gwenn play you in _Miracle on 34th Street_?  
> IQ2: Have you played a Doctor Who companion and an adopted daughter of Thanos?  
> IQ3: Was Conan the Barbarian’s first appearance in a work by Robert E. Howard a reworked version of you?

Not Kris Kringle, dunno, and not… Krull?

K.

1. fictional
2. male

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/96 "2017-12-11T21:45:59Z")

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A not surprising sweep.

IQs:

1. Were you the first actor to play Clarabelle the Clown on _The Howdy Doody Show_?
2. Were you Red Skelton’s country bumpkin character?
3. Are you the Elegant Elephant of Oz?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/97 "2017-12-12T13:15:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Did Edmund Gwenn play you in Miracle on 34th Street?  
> IQ2: Have you played a Doctor Who companion and an adopted daughter of Thanos?  
> IQ3: Was Conan the Barbarian’s first appearance in a work by Robert E. Howard a reworked version of you?  
> Not Kris Kringle, dunno, and not… Krull?

correct, Karen Gillem, Kull (close enough)

DQ: From literature?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/98 "2017-12-12T13:22:53Z")

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IQ1: Were you in _Amazon Women on the Moon_ playing yourself in a “Blacks without soul” public-service appeal?  
IQ2: Did Emma Stone recently play you in _Battle of the Sexes_?  
IQ3: Did you promote “The Rumble in the Jungle”?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/99 "2017-12-12T14:48:11Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> …  
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you the first actor to play Clarabelle the Clown on _The Howdy Doody Show_?
> 2. Were you Red Skelton’s country bumpkin character?
> 3. Are you the Elegant Elephant of Oz?

Not Bob Keishan, Clem Kadiddlehopper (sp?) and dunno.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Were you in _Amazon Women on the Moon_ playing yourself in a “Blacks without soul” public-service appeal?  
> IQ2: Did Emma Stone recently play you in _Battle of the Sexes_?  
> IQ3: Did you promote “The Rumble in the Jungle”?

Dunno, not Billy Jean King and not Don King.

K.

1. fictional
2. male
3. from literature

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/100 "2017-12-12T18:23:51Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you in Amazon Women on the Moon playing yourself in a “Blacks without soul” public-service appeal?  
> IQ2: Did Emma Stone recently play you in Battle of the Sexes?  
> IQ3: Did you promote “The Rumble in the Jungle”?
> 
> Dunno, not Billy Jean King and not Don King.

BB King

DQ: Author American?

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