# Botticelli - December 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 2, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317 "2017-12-02T08:30:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/141 "2017-12-20T17:18:21Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> …I assume “animal” rules out insects…

I think insects _are_ animals, but in any event this mystery critter is not an insect.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/142 "2017-12-20T17:44:56Z")

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Or a horse or a kangaroo…

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/143 "2017-12-20T20:55:36Z")

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Not Kanga from Winnie the Pooh…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/144 "2017-12-20T21:06:45Z")

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I’m stumped, but I’m still thinking on it.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/145 "2017-12-21T15:32:52Z")

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My best guess. DQ: Are you a horse named King?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/146 "2017-12-21T18:36:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> My best guess. DQ: Are you a horse named King?

I am not.

All others with earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions, please ask them by 4pm EST tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/147 "2017-12-21T19:11:25Z")

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I’ve wracked my brain and can’t think of the answer. I concede.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/148 "2017-12-22T08:39:41Z")

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Likewise. I spent some time thinking it might be a rabbit from Watership Down, this fits most of the criteria but not the American author. I reckon it’s a horse, but probably not one I have heard of.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/149 "2017-12-23T05:44:52Z")

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OK, time’s up. I am perhaps the most notoriously-slain horse of book and movie history,

Khartoum

> **[Khartoum](https://godfather.fandom.com/wiki/Khartoum)**
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> Khartoum was a champion racehorse owned by movie producer Jack Woltz. His name might be based on the Sudanese capital city, Khartoum. The Triple-Crown winner was bought for $600,000 ($8,311,624 in 2017) by Woltz and who put his horse out to "stud"....

The name is spoken twice at 0:53 here, in the original _The Godfather_: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsTwnHg3pc)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/150 "2017-12-23T14:20:58Z")

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Ah. I’ve never cared for Hollywood’s romanticizing of gangsters and the Mob, and consequently am one of the few people who’ve never seen the movies. I’ve heard of the scene, but I can safely say I’ve never heard the name. Nevertheless, I think that counts as a great choice, and you should go directly to the next round.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/151 "2017-12-23T14:24:35Z")

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It’s been years since I’ve seen the movie, and I remember the scene, but forgot that the horse had a name. So, I can’t say I’ve never heard of it. Good job, EH.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/152 "2017-12-24T22:39:15Z")

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Thanks! Right, then. Our next letter, naturally, is

L

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/153 "2017-12-25T13:01:30Z")

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Merry Christmas!

IQs:

1. Did you write _Happy Xmas (War Is Over)_?
2. Were you the voice of Leon the Snowman in _Elf_?
3. Are you the self-sacrificing title character of a children’s book by Charles Tazewell?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/154 "2017-12-25T16:17:46Z")

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IQ1: Did Michael McKean play you in _Laverne & Shirley_?  
IQ2: Are you a Hungarian-American who played fullback for the Miami Dolphins when they won the 1972 & 1973 Superbowls?  
IQ3: Were you aka the “Biker of the Apocalypse” in _Raising Arizona_?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/155 "2017-12-25T19:11:03Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Merry Christmas!
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write _Happy Xmas (War Is Over)_?
> 2. Were you the voice of Leon the Snowman in _Elf_?
> 3. Are you the self-sacrificing title character of a children’s book by Charles Tazewell?

To you and yours, as well!

Not John Lennon, Leon Redbone or… dunno.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did Michael McKean play you in _Laverne & Shirley_?  
> IQ2: Are you a Hungarian-American who played fullback for the Miami Dolphins when they won the 1972 & 1973 Superbowls?  
> IQ3: Were you aka the “Biker of the Apocalypse” in _Raising Arizona_?

Not Lenny, dunno and not Larry.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/156 "2017-12-26T02:50:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not Lenny, dunno and not Larry.

correct, Larry Csonka, Leonard Smalls

DQ: Real?  
DQ: Last name start with L?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/157 "2017-12-26T05:20:05Z")

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L.

1. real
2. last name starts with L

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/158 "2017-12-26T15:50:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you write Happy Xmas (War Is Over)?
> 2. Were you the voice of Leon the Snowman in Elf?
> 3. Are you the self-sacrificing title character of a children’s book by Charles Tazewell?  
> To you and yours, as well!
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> Not John Lennon, Leon Redbone or… dunno.

Correct, Correct, and the Littlest Snowman(with the red candy heart) [no other name used int he book].

DQ: Living?

IQs:

1. Are you Rerun Van Pelt’s sister?
2. Was Hero your great love?
3. Were you Ophelia’s brother?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/159 "2017-12-26T18:00:19Z")

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IQ1: Was your breakout role playing Ritchie Valens in _La Bamba_?  
IQ2: Are you the drummer for Mötley Crüe?  
IQ3: Are you a blonde actress who was formerly married to IQ2?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2017/803317/160 "2017-12-27T02:50:04Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> …
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you Rerun Van Pelt’s sister?
> 2. Was Hero your great love?
> 3. Were you Ophelia’s brother?

Not Lucy, Lucinda or Leontes (the last two are guesses).

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Was your breakout role playing Ritchie Valens in _La Bamba_?  
> IQ2: Are you the drummer for Mötley Crüe?  
> IQ3: Are you a blonde actress who was formerly married to IQ2?

Not Lou Diamond Phillips, dunno and dunno.

L.

1. real
2. last name starts with L
3. dead

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