# Botticelli - December 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [December 5, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134 "2023-12-05T13:29:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/181 "2023-12-21T15:48:52Z")
A company isn’t a person. With respect, **SMV** , I don’t think your Swiss Army question is a kosher for Botticelli, unless the founder of the company had that name (which I don’t believe is the case). IQs: Did an actor and his nephew play you as both a man and a boy? Did you costar in _Wedding Crashers_? Are you a black actress with the last name of a small mammal? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/182 "2023-12-21T17:20:47Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > company isn’t a person. With respect, **SMV** I don’t think your Swiss Army question is a kosher for Botticelli, unless the founder of the company had that name (which I don’t believe is the case). Duly noted - I didn’t know. Thank you. > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you a Roman bishop and martyr, canonized as the patron saint of epileptics and beekeepers (in addition to a more famous domain)? > 2. Are you one of the two companies licensed by the Swiss Army to make their eponymous knives? > 3. Were you an Italian fashion designer and businessman, known for cultivating friendships with musicians, to link music and couture, who was murdered outside your Miami home in 1997? Okay, **Prof. P** , I withdraw IQ2 about Victorinox, and substitute: 2: Are you the eldest child of Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl? ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/183 "2023-12-21T18:20:38Z")
IQs: 1. Were you the original (illusory) green-skinned Orion girl? 8. Did you inspire a gang of “Boys” on _Seinfeld_? 3. _Who’s Afraid of_ you? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/184 "2023-12-21T18:25:45Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you a Roman bishop and martyr, canonized as the patron saint of epileptics and beekeepers (in addition to a more famous domain)? > 2. Are you the eldest child of Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl? > 3. Were you an Italian fashion designer and businessman, known for cultivating friendships with musicians, to link music and couture, who was murdered outside your Miami home in 1997? 1. I am not St. Vitus (??). 2. I am not Violet from _The Incredibles_. 3. I am not Vidal Sassoon (??). > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did an actor and his nephew play you as both a man and a boy? > Did you costar in _Wedding Crashers_? > Are you a black actress with the last name of a small mammal? 1. Take a DQ. 2. I am not Vince Vaughn (sp?). 3. I am not Vivica A. Fox.(sp?) > [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > Qs: > > 1. Were you the original (illusory) green-skinned Orion girl? > 2. Did you inspire a gang of “Boys” on _Seinfeld_? > 3. _Who’s Afraid of_ you? Take 2 DQs. 3. I am not Virginia Woolf. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/185 "2023-12-21T18:41:15Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Take 2 DQs. > 3. I am not Virginia Woolf. 1 was Vina, in the _Star Trek_ pilot “The Cage”; 2 was Martin van Buren. DQ: born after 1880? 2 DQs reserved (one from this set, one from before). ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/186 "2023-12-21T18:42:33Z")
DQs: 1. Real 2. Female 3. First name begins with V 4. Not known for the arts 5. American 6. Dead 7. Born before 1900 8. Christmas-related 9. Born after 1880 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/187 "2023-12-21T19:54:18Z")
Previous IQs: Did an actor and his nephew play you as both a man and a boy? - Lord Voldemort, played by both Ralph Fiennes and, as the young Tom Riddle, his nephew Did you costar in _Wedding Crashers_? - Yes, Vince Vaughn Are you a black actress with the last name of a small mammal? - Yes, Vivica Fox One DQ reserved. IQs: Did you write a famous letter to a newspaper about the existence of Santa Claus? Were you a great early King of Gondor? Were you Carter’s first SECSTATE? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/188 "2023-12-21T20:21:39Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did you write a famous letter to a newspaper about the existence of Santa Claus? # Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! Well guessed, EH! Virginia O’Hanlon wrote the famous letter as a young girl. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/189 "2023-12-21T22:10:53Z")
Oh, good guess, **EH**! This was an “Of course!” when I read your guess. Just to clear up my last IQs - > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Were you a Roman bishop and martyr, canonized as the patron saint of epileptics and beekeepers (in addition to a more famous domain)? > > 2. Are you the eldest child of Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl? > > 3. Were you an Italian fashion designer and businessman, known for cultivating friendships with musicians, to link music and couture, who was murdered outside your Miami home in 1997? > > 1. I am not St. Vitus (??). > 2. I am not Violet from _The Incredibles_. > 3. I am not Vidal Sassoon (??). Good guess on 1, but it was actually St. Valentine. Correct on 2. 3 was Gianni Versace. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/190 "2023-12-22T15:03:37Z")
Good one, **Prof. P.**! I had used her as a Botticelli subject too, but under her last name, awhile back. Great minds… My other IQs: Were you a great early King of Gondor? - Valandil Were you Carter’s first SECSTATE? - Cyrus Vance Our next letter will be # L ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/191 "2023-12-22T15:46:19Z")
IQs: 1. Were you a young Greek man who drowned swimming the Hellespont to reach your beloved, a priestess of Aphrodite? 2. Are you a rapper whose real name is Chris Bridges (and whom, incidentally and irrelevantly, was highly praised by a speech therapist I once dated, for his diction and enunciation)? 3. Were you a Hungarian virtuoso pianist and composer who was the first musician to attract a wild mass popular following, and thus the ancestor of Beatlemania, the Beyhive, and Swifties? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Good one, **Prof. P.**! I had used her as a Botticelli subject too, but under her last name, awhile back. Great minds… We have a thread for letters that have been used in the game; do you guys think there would be any value to a thread listing all the subjects used in the last year? It would take a bit of work, but it could be done, if y’all thought there was any use for such. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/192 "2023-12-22T16:06:31Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > We have a thread for letters that have been used in the game; do you guys think there would be any value to a thread listing all the subjects used in the last year? It would take a bit of work, but it could be done, if y’all thought there was any use for such. I’ve thought about doing that in the past, but cannot conceive of a use for it beyond a matter of curiosity. But do so if you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/193 "2023-12-22T16:10:12Z")
IQs: 1. Were you an actor who also studied under Sigmund Freud? 2. Were you a TV producer who was also the voice of Carlton the Doorman? 3. Have you played a demon clown, a drag queen and a French artist? ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/194 "2023-12-22T16:21:16Z")
Congrats! IQs: 1. Did you co-write the Mr. and Mrs. North mysteries with your wife? 2. Did you write, among other books, **Day of the Drones**? 3. Did you write, among other books **Drinking Sapphire Wine**? ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/195 "2023-12-22T17:45:29Z")
IQs: 1. Hair toss, check your nails–are you feeling “Good as Hell”? 2. Have you noted that when correctly viewed, _everything_ is lewd? 3. …I’ve been thinkin’, what the hell have you been drinkin’? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/196 "2023-12-22T19:30:17Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > We have a thread for letters that have been used in the game; do you guys think there would be any value to a thread listing all the subjects used in the last year? It would take a bit of work, but it could be done, if y’all thought there was any use for such. > > I’ve thought about doing that in the past, but cannot conceive of a use for it beyond a matter of curiosity. But do so if you’d like. My thoughts exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/197 "2023-12-22T19:31:16Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you a young Greek man who drowned swimming the Hellespont to reach your beloved, a priestess of Aphrodite? > 2. Are you a rapper whose real name is Chris Bridges (and whom, incidentally and irrelevantly, was highly praised by a speech therapist I once dated, for his diction and enunciation)? > 3. Were you a Hungarian virtuoso pianist and composer who was the first musician to attract a wild mass popular following, and thus the ancestor of Beatlemania, the Beyhive, and Swifties? > … Not Laertes, Lil’ Wayne or Liszt. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Were you an actor who also studied under Sigmund Freud? > 2. Were you a TV producer who was also the voice of Carlton the Doorman? > 3. Have you played a demon clown, a drag queen and a French artist? Not Lionel Barrymore, dunno and not Lars Sarsgaard (sp?). > [@kitap](#): > > … > IQs: > > 1. Did you co-write the Mr. and Mrs. North mysteries with your wife? > 2. Did you write, among other books, **Day of the Drones**? > 3. Did you write, among other books **Drinking Sapphire Wine**? Dunno x3. > [@De\_La\_Rue](#): > > IQs: > 1. Hair toss, check your nails–are you feeling “Good as Hell”? > 2. Have you noted that when correctly viewed, _everything_ is lewd? > 3. …I’ve been thinkin’, what the hell have you been drinkin’? Not Lizzo, dunno and not Abraham Lincoln. ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/198 "2023-12-22T19:44:03Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Lizzo, dunno and not Abraham Lincoln. 2 was Tom Lehrer. DQ: real? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/199 "2023-12-22T19:57:42Z")
L. 1. fictional ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/200 "2023-12-22T21:56:42Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > IQs: > > > > 1. Were you a young Greek man who drowned swimming the Hellespont to reach your beloved, a priestess of Aphrodite? > > 2. Are you a rapper whose real name is Chris Bridges (and whom, incidentally and irrelevantly, was highly praised by a speech therapist I once dated, for his diction and enunciation)? > > 3. Were you a Hungarian virtuoso pianist and composer who was the first musician to attract a wild mass popular following, and thus the ancestor of Beatlemania, the Beyhive, and Swifties? > > … > > Not Laertes, Lil’ Wayne or Liszt Correct on Franz Liszt. 1 was Leander (Laertes was Polonius’ son from _Hamlet_). 2 was Ludacris. DQs: 1. Holiday-related? 2. Female? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134.md?page=11)