# Botticelli - December 2023

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [December 5, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134 "2023-12-05T13:29:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 13

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/241 "2023-12-28T20:00:09Z")

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DQs:

1. From a movie with a big name actor?
2. From a children’s movie?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/242 "2023-12-28T20:16:39Z")

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L.

1. fictional
2. holiday-related
3. male
4. from TV or movies
5. created after 1970
6. last name starts with L
7. from movies
8. created after 1990
9. from a live-action movie
10. a significant but not main character
11. Caucasian
12. film is a comedy, among other things
13. not considered a good guy
14. created before 2020
15. film not R-rated
16. created before 2005
17. from a fantasy movie or movie with fantastic elements, including the existence of Santa Claus
18. adult character
19. not from a movie that is one of a series of movies
20. film features Santa Claus, or seems to
21. from a movie with a big-name actor
22. from a movie suitable for children, but not just for them

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/243 "2023-12-28T23:15:49Z")

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My shot in the dark and FirstName LastName question:

Are you Myron Laramie (sp?) played by Sinbad in _Jingle All The Way_?

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/244 "2023-12-29T04:18:15Z")

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Someone more familiar with 90s Christmas movies (or _Elf_, if it’s _Elf_) than I will have to take this one. Can’t be _The Santa Clause_, that’s a series.

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**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/245 "2023-12-29T17:07:17Z")

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I can only think of Elf and,The Ref - which is definitely R rated.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/246 "2023-12-29T17:14:29Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> My shot in the dark and FirstName LastName question:
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> Are you Myron Laramie (sp?) played by Sinbad in _Jingle All The Way_?

I am not.

Please ask all earned DQs by noon EDST tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/247 "2023-12-29T18:13:51Z")

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Final DQ: Santa Claus is major role in film?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/248 "2023-12-29T19:25:49Z")

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L.

1. fictional
2. holiday-related
3. male
4. from TV or movies
5. created after 1970
6. last name starts with L
7. from movies
8. created after 1990
9. from a live-action movie
10. a significant but not main character
11. Caucasian
12. film is a comedy, among other things
13. not considered a good guy
14. created before 2020
15. film not R-rated
16. created before 2005
17. from a fantasy movie or movie with fantastic elements, including the existence of Santa Claus
18. adult character
19. not from a movie that is one of a series of movies
20. film features Santa Claus, or seems to
21. from a movie with a big-name actor
22. from a movie suitable for children, but not just for them
23. Santa Claus is major role in film, or seems to be

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/249 "2023-12-30T22:59:47Z")

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Right, then. Please ask all earned “Are you Firstname Lastname?” questions by noon EDST on New Year’s Day.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/250 "2023-12-31T18:12:41Z")

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I never saw _Bad Santa_, but that might fit the timeframe.

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/251 "2024-01-01T00:05:53Z")

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Happy new year woo woo woo

(Final post of the year. I still don’t know who it is.)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/252 "2024-01-01T16:18:54Z")

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Not a clue.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/253 "2024-01-01T19:19:53Z")

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Happy New Year!

I am, in fact,

# Victor Landberg

the scheming, Santa-denying department store magnate and bad guy in the 1994 remake of _Miracle on 34th Street._

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/254 "2024-01-01T19:34:23Z")

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Ah. I saw that one once, and I’m not sure I made it all the way through. I’ll go with Edmund Gwenn as Santa. But I did see it, and I remember they added a villainous character, but I would never have come up with the name.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/255 "2024-01-01T19:58:59Z")

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen the 1994 remake of _Miracle on 34th Street_, so I’d never have gotten that one.

Happy New Year, all!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/256 "2024-01-02T14:23:56Z")

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Likewise.

Should I start a new thread for January, or is that character unknown-enough that the previous winner should go?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/257 "2024-01-02T15:58:21Z")

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There’s still kitap and DLR to hear from.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/258 "2024-01-02T16:29:43Z")

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I didn’t even know there’d been a remake.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/259 "2024-01-02T17:03:05Z")

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Here’s the trailer; Landberg (boo! hiss!) appears at 1:49: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leDD6Y-Nyqg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leDD6Y-Nyqg)

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-december-2023/994134/260 "2024-01-02T20:12:30Z")

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I have not seen nor would be able to tell you the characters in, aside from Claus, either version of _Miracle on 34th Street_.

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