# Botticelli:  Early December 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 29, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443 "2012-11-29T05:19:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/41 "2012-12-03T09:35:28Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: I’m guessing that’s the Kevin Costner character from _Field of Dreams_ but I don’t remember the character’s name. Take a DQ

Correct on Reed and Dawson. The character was Ray Kinsella, who was indeed played by Costner.

DQ: Are you alive today?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/42 "2012-12-03T13:58:07Z")

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IQs

Was your middle name the same as the last name of someone who once held your important political job?  
A noted athlete, did you have the same last name as a much-later noted musician?  
Did you play a noted British literary character in movies set long after that character would actually have died?

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/43 "2012-12-03T14:23:30Z")

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IQ1: Does your wife have some ‘splainin’ to do?  
IQ2: Do you repeatedly (and emptily) threaten to knock your wife, “straight to the moon!”?  
IQ3: Are you a new-wave musician married to a former supermodel?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/44 "2012-12-03T17:42:35Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> DQ: Are you alive today?

No

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs
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> Was your middle name the same as the last name of someone who once held your important political job?  
> A noted athlete, did you have the same last name as a much-later noted musician?  
> Did you play a noted British literary character in movies set long after that character would actually have died?

IQ1: Not Ronald Wilson Reagan  
IQ2: Dunno, take a DQ  
IQ3: Not Nazi fighting Sherlock Holmes Basil Rathbone.

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Does your wife have some ‘splainin’ to do?  
> IQ2: Do you repeatedly (and emptily) threaten to knock your wife, “straight to the moon!”?  
> IQ3: Are you a new-wave musician married to a former supermodel?

Not Ricky Ricardo, Ralph Kramden, nor Ric Ocasek.

Summary:  
T

1. Not alive today.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/45 "2012-12-04T01:43:17Z")

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Just noticed the typo in the summary above.

That should read:  
**R**

1. Not alive today.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/46 "2012-12-05T03:33:11Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs
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> Was your middle name the same as the last name of someone who once held your important political job?  
> A noted athlete, did you have the same last name as a much-later noted musician?  
> Did you play a noted British literary character in movies set long after that character would actually have died?

Yes, Ronald Reagan.  
Rogers Hornsby, early baseball star, and Bruce Hornsby.  
Yes, Basil Rathbone.

DQ:

Male?

IQs:

Do you find it very hard to talk in the presence of women?  
Did you play a tenant, a detective and a dad?  
Did you ruin the cake that everyone was looking forward to?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/47 "2012-12-05T08:04:21Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ:
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> Male?

Yes.

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> Do you find it very hard to talk in the presence of women?  
> Did you play a tenant, a detective and a dad?  
> Did you ruin the cake that everyone was looking forward to?

IQ1: No idea. Another DQ for you.  
IQ2: Not Paul Reiser in Mad About You, the Beverly Hills Cop movies, and My Two Dads respectively.  
IQ3: Not Richard Harris singing MacArthur Park?? If not, take another DQ.

Summary:  
R

1. Not alive today
2. Male

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/48 "2012-12-05T08:30:07Z")

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IQ: Were you the “Gipper”'s Treasury Secretary?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/49 "2012-12-05T15:54:29Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Do you find it very hard to talk in the presence of women?  
> Did you play a tenant, a detective and a dad?  
> Did you ruin the cake that everyone was looking forward to?

Raj, in _The Big Bang Theory_.  
Not who I was thinking of; I’ll rephrase below.  
Richard Harris sang that “someone” left a cake out in the rain, so it wasn’t him. I was thinking of Wreck-It Ralph, in the recent (and pretty good) movie of the same name.

DQs:

Real?  
Last name begin with R?

IQs:

An American actor who is now deceased, did you play a tenant, a detective and a dad?  
Did you “say a few words on behalf of the leadership”?  
Did a TV series based on a book about you win your creator three Emmys?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/50 "2012-12-05T17:55:24Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Were you the “Gipper”'s Treasury Secretary?

Not Donald “only one A” Regan

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:
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> Real?  
> Last name begin with R?

Yes  
Yes

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> An American actor who is now deceased, did you play a tenant, a detective and a dad?  
> Did you “say a few words on behalf of the leadership”?  
> Did a TV series based on a book about you win your creator three Emmys?

3 more DQs for you.

Summary:  
R

1. Not alive today
2. Male
3. Real
4. Last name begins with ‘R’

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/51 "2012-12-05T18:26:59Z")

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IQ1: Does everyone know you do not take prisoners?

IQ2: Did you write of a detective that stayed home to look after his orchids?

IQ3: Did you write of a swordsman with a big nose?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/52 "2012-12-05T21:20:24Z")

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IQ: Were you an automotive pioneer who cofounded a ritzy British company?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/53 "2012-12-05T22:09:07Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Does everyone know you do not take prisoners?
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> IQ2: Did you write of a detective that stayed home to look after his orchids?
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> IQ3: Did you write of a swordsman with a big nose?

IQ1: I have a feeling I’m going to :smack: when you tell me, but take a DQ.  
IQ2: Not Nero Wolfe creator Rex Stout.  
IQ3: it’s been over 25 years since college French class..the playwright that did Cyrano de Bergerac… Take another DQ.

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Were you an automotive pioneer who cofounded a ritzy British company?

Neither something Rolls nor Henry Royce.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/54 "2012-12-05T22:35:35Z")

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Rolls build early cars.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/55 "2012-12-06T01:31:01Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> An American actor who is now deceased, did you play a tenant, a detective and a dad?  
> Did you “say a few words on behalf of the leadership”?  
> Did a TV series based on a book about you win your creator three Emmys?

John Ritter on _Three’s Company, Hooperman_ and _8 Simple Rules_.  
Randy Newman, in his Vietnam War tune “Song for the Dead.”  
Rolie Polie Olie, from the book of the same name by William Joyce: [ShareTV is Now Closed](http://sharetv.org/shows/rolie_polie_olie)

DQs:

American?  
Best known for the creative arts?  
Born since 1900?

IQs:

Did you wash a pot that might not even have been dirty?  
Did you employ a famous cartoonist from Lancaster, Ohio?  
Did the people demand your release from the local big cheese?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/56 "2012-12-06T02:20:27Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> American?  
> Best known for the creative arts?  
> Born since 1900?

yes  
yes  
yes

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you wash a pot that might not even have been dirty?  
> Did you employ a famous cartoonist from Lancaster, Ohio?  
> Did the people demand your release from the local big cheese?

1: Take a DQ. Sounds like a nursery rhyme  
2: Not William Randolph Hearst? - only newspaper man with an ‘R’ I can think of,.  
3: Not Roger, who the crowd wanted released in _Monty Python’s Life of Brian._? “Vewy well. We will wewease Woger!!”??

Take 1-3 DQs, depending on how I did.

Summary:  
R

1. Not alive today
2. Male
3. Real
4. Last name begins with ‘R’
5. American
6. Best known for the creative arts
7. Born after 1900

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/57 "2012-12-06T04:23:34Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Did you wash a pot that might not even have been dirty?  
> Did you employ a famous cartoonist from Lancaster, Ohio?  
> Did the people demand your release from the local big cheese?

VP candidate Paul Ryan, for a photo op during his recent visit to an Ohio soup kitchen.  
Yes, Hearst, who employed Richard Outcault, cartoonist of _The Yellow Kid_.  
Yes, either Roger or Roderick, in _The Life of Brian_.

DQ:

Actor?

IQs:

Was a famous photo taken of you right after you woke up?  
Did your son eventually hold the same top job you did, and in a sentimental gesture wear the same particular garment associated with that job?  
Was your photo once swapped by a newspaper with that of a local undertaker?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/58 "2012-12-06T15:29:56Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Does everyone know you do not take prisoners?
> 
> IQ2: Did you write of a detective that stayed home to look after his orchids?
> 
> IQ3: Did you write of a swordsman with a big nose?

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: I have a feeling I’m going to :smack: when you tell me, but take a DQ.  
> IQ2: Not Nero Wolfe creator Rex Stout.  
> IQ3: it’s been over 25 years since college French class..the playwright that did Cyrano de Bergerac… Take another DQ.

Bang on with Rex Stout.

1. is the **Dread Pirate Roberts** , from the film ‘The Princess Bride’.

2. is **Edmond Rostand** , who, indeed, penned the enduring classic play ‘Cyrano de Bergerac’.

If may, I will hold off until **Elendil’s Heir** ’s DQ is answered. No sense in trumping my partner’s ace…

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/59 "2012-12-06T19:27:20Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ:
> 
> Actor?

I’m a hyphenate, but yes, actor is one of them.  
IQs:

> [@](#):
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> Was a famous photo taken of you right after you woke up?  
> Did your son eventually hold the same top job you did, and in a sentimental gesture wear the same particular garment associated with that job?  
> Was your photo once swapped by a newspaper with that of a local undertaker?

2 sounds familiar, I’m thinking a judicial robe. John Roberts, Sr.? Total guess  
Take 2 or 3 DQs.

Summary:  
R

1. Not alive today
2. Male
3. Real
4. Last name begins with ‘R’
5. American
6. Best known for the creative arts
7. Born after 1900
8. Actor, among other talents.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/60 "2012-12-06T20:24:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Was a famous photo taken of you right after you woke up?  
> Did your son eventually hold the same top job you did, and in a sentimental gesture wear the same particular garment associated with that job?  
> Was your photo once swapped by a newspaper with that of a local undertaker?

Rita Hayworth: [http://thehairpin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Picture-59.jpg](http://thehairpin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Picture-59.jpg)  
Randolph Churchill’s son Winston became Chancellor of the Exchequer, just as his father had been, and wore his robes of office.  
Civil Rights Movement leader Roy Wilkins, in East Liverpool, Ohio in 1963.

DQs:

Musician, too?  
Died before 1980?  
Best known for movie roles?

IQs:

Did you play an iconic role decades before a second person with a similar name played it?  
Are you the second person referred to above?  
Did a picture of you eating alone become an Internet meme?

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