# Botticelli: Early December 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [November 29, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443 "2012-11-29T05:19:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/61 "2012-12-07T01:30:05Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Musician, too? > Died before 1980? > Best known for movie roles? Define “musician”. Are you using Webster’s #1: “composer, conductor, or performer of music” or #2: synonym for instrumentalist? If #1 then yes. If #2, then no. no no > [@](#): > > IQs: > Did you play an iconic role decades before a second person with a similar name played it? > Are you the second person referred to above? > Did a picture of you eating alone become an Internet meme? 1 & 2: I am neither Superman actor George Reeves nor Christopher Reeve. 3: Another DQ. Summary: R 1. Not alive today 2. Male 3. Real 4. Last name begins with ‘R’ 5. American 6. Best known for the creative arts 7. Born after 1900 8. Actor, among other talents. 9. Musician in the broad sense, but not an instrumentalist. 10. Died after 1980 11. Not best known for movie roles. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/62 "2012-12-08T18:28:35Z")
IQ: Are you famous for dancing with Steve Martin? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/63 "2012-12-09T01:15:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …IQs: > > Did you play an iconic role decades before a second person with a similar name played it? > Are you the second person referred to above? > Did a picture of you eating alone become an Internet meme? Yes, the two Supermans. Well done! Keanu Reeves: [Sad Keanu | Know Your Meme](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/keanu-is-sad-sad-keanu) DQ: In the cast of a well-known TV series? IQs: Did you make your home in Rhosgobel? Did Gregory Hines play different characters of this same name in three movies? Were you Nixon’s Secretary of State? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/64 "2012-12-09T10:35:59Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Are you famous for dancing with Steve Martin? Not Gilda Radner > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQ: > > In the cast of a well-known TV series? no > [@](#): > > IQs: > > Did you make your home in Rhosgobel? > Did Gregory Hines play different characters of this same name in three movies? > Were you Nixon’s Secretary of State? 3 more DQs. I know Kissinger replaced somebody, presumably somebody whose name begins with R. Summary: R 1. Not alive today 2. Male 3. Real 4. Last name begins with ‘R’ 5. American 6. Best known for the creative arts 7. Born after 1900 8. Actor, among other talents. 9. Musician in the broad sense, but not an instrumentalist. 10. Died after 1980 11. Not best known for movie roles. 12. Not in the cast of a well-known TV series. ---
**Author:** ![pwmeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@pwmeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwmeek)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/65 "2012-12-09T17:08:11Z")
IQ: Was his nickname an animal of a certain color? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/66 "2012-12-09T17:48:58Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did you make your home in Rhosgobel? > Did Gregory Hines play different characters of this same name in three movies? > Were you Nixon’s Secretary of State? Radagast the Brown, one of Gandalf’s colleagues, soon to appear in the _Hobbit_ movies. Hines played three otherwise-unrelated characters named Ray. William P. Rogers was Kissinger’s predecessor. DQs: Noted as a singer? Noted for appearances on stage? Best known as a solo musician? IQs: A singer-actor, was your horse stuffed and mounted after you died? Did you call your famous political dad in a TV commercial? Did the butler offer to hold your trident? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/67 "2012-12-11T18:58:04Z")
> [@pwmeek](#): > > IQ: Was his nickname an animal of a certain color? a DQ for you. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Noted as a singer? > Noted for appearances on stage? > Best known as a solo musician? yes no Hmm…I’d say my best known musical work was a solo piece. But the vast majority of my body of work was as part of a larger group. > [@](#): > > IQs: > > A singer-actor, was your horse stuffed and mounted after you died? > Did you call your famous political dad in a TV commercial? > Did the butler offer to hold your trident? Not Roy Rogers. Take DQs for the other 2. Summary: R 1. Not alive today 2. Male 3. Real 4. Last name begins with ‘R’ 5. American 6. Best known for the creative arts 7. Born after 1900 8. Actor, among other talents. 9. Musician in the broad sense, but not an instrumentalist. 10. Died after 1980 11. Not best known for movie roles. 12. Not in the cast of a well-known TV series. 13. Noted as a singer 14. Not noted for stage appearances 15. Best known musical work was a solo piece, but most singing work was a part of a larger group. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/68 "2012-12-11T19:15:44Z")
Cashing in my DQs from post #58 - DQ1: Is the style of your music generally considered to be Rock (or one of its sub-genres)? DQ2: Were you born after 1950? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/69 "2012-12-11T21:42:18Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > DQ1: Is the style of your music generally considered to be Rock (or one of its sub-genres)? > > DQ2: Were you born after 1950? No No Summary: R 1. Not alive today 2. Male 3. Real 4. Last name begins with ‘R’ 5. American 6. Best known for the creative arts 7. Born after 1900 8. Actor, among other talents. 9. Musician in the broad sense, but not an instrumentalist. 10. Died after 1980 11. Not best known for movie roles. 12. Not in the cast of a well-known TV series. 13. Noted as a singer 14. Not noted for stage appearances 15. Best known musical work was a solo piece, but most singing work was a part of a larger group. 16. Musical style not generally considered to be Rock 17. Born before 1950. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/70 "2012-12-12T02:32:51Z")
IQ1: Did you play a variety show host in the film ‘All that Jazz’? IQ2: Were you famous for your rendition of ‘Old Man River’? IQ3: Did you record the album ‘No Tenors Allowed’ with Thomas Hampson? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/71 "2012-12-12T05:21:45Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > A singer-actor, was your horse stuffed and mounted after you died? > Did you call your famous political dad in a TV commercial? > Did the butler offer to hold your trident? Yes, Roy Rogers. Ron Reagan Jr., in a VISA ad (the President did not appear). Prince Ruprecht (Steve Martin), in _Dirty Rotten Scoundrels_: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqMc9B7uDV8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqMc9B7uDV8) DQ: Country western singer? Two DQs reserved. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/72 "2012-12-12T19:09:51Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Did you play a variety show host in the film ‘All that Jazz’? > > IQ2: Were you famous for your rendition of ‘Old Man River’? > > IQ3: Did you record the album ‘No Tenors Allowed’ with Thomas Hampson? IQ1: Not Roy Schieder? Never saw the film, but I know he was the star and the Bob Fosse stand-in. IQ2: Not Paul Robeson IQ3: DQ for you. [QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] DQ: Country western singer? [/quote] Did record some county-western material, but that’s not the genre most associated with. I should amend my previous rock answer similarly. Did record some doo-wop and worked with Elvis, but not best known for rock. Summary: R 1. Not alive today 2. Male 3. Real 4. Last name begins with ‘R’ 5. American 6. Best known for the creative arts 7. Born after 1900 8. Actor, among other talents. 9. Musician in the broad sense, but not an instrumentalist. 10. Died after 1980 11. Not best known for movie roles. 12. Not in the cast of a well-known TV series. 13. Noted as a singer 14. Not noted for stage appearances 15. Best known musical work was a solo piece, but most singing work was a part of a larger group. 16. Main musical style not generally considered to be Rock, but did record some doo-wop and worked with Elvis. 17. Born before 1950. 18. Did record some country-western, but again, not primary musical style. ---
**Author:** ![pwmeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/da6949/32.png) [@pwmeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pwmeek)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/73 "2012-12-12T23:01:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by pwmeek > IQ: Was his nickname an animal of a certain color? > a DQ for you. Charlie Rich (1932-1995); the ‘Silver Fox’ (played himself in a Clint Eastwood movie, but most famous for “Behind Closed Doors” (1974; charted at #1 country music, top 20 crossover) DQ reserved until I think of a good one. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/74 "2012-12-13T20:16:58Z")
I can’t figure out who this is. I yield my two remaining DQs to any other players who would like to ask them - one apiece. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/75 "2012-12-13T20:46:27Z")
DQ: Grammy winner? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/76 "2012-12-13T21:33:52Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > DQ: Grammy winner? No Summary: R 1. Not alive today 2. Male 3. Real 4. Last name begins with ‘R’ 5. American 6. Best known for the creative arts 7. Born after 1900 8. Actor, among other talents. 9. Musician in the broad sense, but not an instrumentalist. 10. Died after 1980 11. Not best known for movie roles. 12. Not in the cast of a well-known TV series. 13. Noted as a singer 14. Not noted for stage appearances 15. Best known musical work was a solo piece, but most singing work was a part of a larger group. 16. Main musical style not generally considered to be Rock, but did record some doo-wop and worked with Elvis. 17. Born before 1950. 18. Did record some country-western, but again, not primary musical style. 19. Not a Grammy winner ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/77 "2012-12-13T21:38:05Z")
IQ: Did your biggest hit chart the week after you perished in a plane crash? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/78 "2012-12-13T22:25:59Z")
Yes, I’m quite baffled myself. I’m taking the combination of ‘Actor, among other talents’ and 'not _best known_ for movie roles to mean that he must have appeared in some films, however minor a role he may have played in however minor a film. Otherwise, with no film, tv or stage, where does the acting come in? It may be a gross assumption to make that this is a singer best known to us through recordings (‘Not noted for stage appearances’ doesn’t necessarily eliminate concerts…) but despite ‘some’ country and ‘some’ doo-wop/Elvis work, we don’t know which genre we should know this person for. Hmm. Anyone have any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/79 "2012-12-14T01:39:56Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Did your biggest hit chart the week after you perished in a plane crash? DQ for you. The only 'R’s killed in a plane crash I can think of are Ritchie Valens and Ronnie Van Zant, who both had their biggest hits while still alive. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443/80 "2012-12-14T02:25:00Z")
DQ: Is your music still heard on the radio? (I was thinking Redding, though it was probably a car wreck) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-early-december-2012/642443.md?page=5)