# Botticelli, Feb. 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 9, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308 "2012-02-09T14:32:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/1 "2012-02-09T14:32:45Z")
Previous thread: [Botticelli, January 2012 - Thread Games - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=636947) Our next letter: C. Have at it! ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/2 "2012-02-09T15:22:38Z")
1. Are you an actor who’s played sadistic, psycho killers in numerous movies, but also provides the voice of a cartoon sea creature? 2. Were you a playwright’s wife, and perennial “celebrity” on TV game shows of the Sixties and Seventies? 3. Were you the last major league baseball player to win the Triple Crown? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/3 "2012-02-09T16:43:55Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > 1. Are you an actor who’s played sadistic, psycho killers in numerous movies, but also provides the voice of a cartoon sea creature? > > 2. Were you a playwright’s wife, and perennial “celebrity” on TV game shows of the Sixties and Seventies? > > 3. Were you the last major league baseball player to win the Triple Crown? Dunno the first. For the second and third, no, I’m not Carol Channing or Rod Carew…? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/4 "2012-02-09T21:19:15Z")
DQ1: Are you the saint whose festival day it was when the British defeated the French at Agincourt? DQ2: Are you a character in Stephen Sondheim’s “Assassins”? DQ3: Are you a dog suffering from rabies? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/5 "2012-02-09T22:02:34Z")
Answer 1: Clancy Brown played sadistic killers in \*\*\*The Shawshank Redemption \*\*\*and _ **Shoot to Kill,** _ among other movies… but he’s also the voice of cuddly Mr Krabs in \*\*\*SpongeBob SquarePants \*\*\*cartoons. Answer 2: Kitty Carlisle (wife of playwright Moss Hart) was a regular “celebrity” panellist on game shows like\*\*\* To Tell the Truth.\*\*\* Answer 3: Carl yastrzemski of the Red Sox won baseball’s last Triple Crown DQ1: Real person? DQ2: Male? DQ3: Does your last name start with “C”? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/6 "2012-02-09T22:11:41Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > DQ1: Are you the saint whose festival day it was when the British defeated the French at Agincourt? > > DQ2: Are you a character in Stephen Sondheim’s “Assassins”? > > DQ3: Are you a dog suffering from rabies? No, I’m not St. Crispin Crispian, Charles Geauteau (sp?), or Cujo. C. 1. Real person 2. Female 3. First name starts with “C” ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/7 "2012-02-09T22:55:35Z")
IQ1: Did you form a successful musical group with the brother of “England Dan”? IQ2: Did you score a big solo hit with Bob Dylan’s “All I Really Wanna Do”? IQ3: Did you win an Oscar for a movie in which, some say, you single-handedly caused a huge drop in undershirt sales? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/8 "2012-02-10T00:23:35Z")
IQ1: Were you the first actor to play a role made famous by Sir Anthony Hopkins? IQ2: Were you the naked civil servant? IQ3: Did you have a problem getting people to believe your warnings? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/9 "2012-02-10T04:43:27Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > IQ1: Did you form a successful musical group with the brother of “England Dan”? > > IQ2: Did you score a big solo hit with Bob Dylan’s “All I Really Wanna Do”? > > IQ3: Did you win an Oscar for a movie in which, some say, you single-handedly caused a huge drop in undershirt sales? No, I’m not John Ford Colley (sp?), Johnny Cash, or Clark Gable. > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ1: Were you the first actor to play a role made famous by Sir Anthony Hopkins? > > IQ2: Were you the naked civil servant? > > IQ3: Did you have a problem getting people to believe your warnings? No, I’m not Brian Cox, who first played Dr. Hannibal Lecter in _Manhunter_, or Quentin Crisp, or Cassandra. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/10 "2012-02-10T13:11:16Z")
DQ1: Are you [del] never, ever[/del] hardly ever sick at sea? DQ2: Were you a jazz bassist/bandleader with a ferociously bad temper? DQ3: An early Baroque composer, is there a specific cadence, sometimes called ‘your clash’, named after you? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/11 "2012-02-10T14:14:16Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > DQ1: Are you [del] never, ever[/del] hardly ever sick at sea? > > DQ2: Were you a jazz bassist/bandleader with a ferociously bad temper? > > DQ3: An early Baroque composer, is there a specific cadence, sometimes called ‘your clash’, named after you? I’m neither the Lord High Admiral from “HMS _Pinafore_” whose name escapes me but includes the letter “C,” nor Cab Calloway, nor Johann Christian Bach. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/12 "2012-02-10T14:28:46Z")
John Ford Coley and Clark Gable are absolutely right. But Cher (without Sonny) was the one who had a top ten hit in the Sixties with Dylan’s “All I Really Wanna Do.” DQ1: Were you born after 1900? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/13 "2012-02-10T14:52:54Z")
[QUOTE=Le Ministre de l’au-delà] DQ1: Are you [del] never, ever[/del] hardly ever sick at sea? DQ2: Were you a jazz bassist/bandleader with a ferociously bad temper? DQ3: An early Baroque composer, is there a specific cadence, sometimes called ‘your clash’, named after you? [/QUOTE] > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I’m neither the Lord High Admiral from “HMS _Pinafore_” whose name escapes me but includes the letter “C,” nor Cab Calloway, nor Johann Christian Bach. (My apologies for the confused taxonomy - those were all IQs, not DQs.) Well fluffed, but not quite right. You are correct about H.M.S. Pinafore being the source of that reference, but the line is in fact sung by **Capt. Corcoran** , father of Josephine and not by Sir Joseph Porter, K.C.B., the ‘Monarch of the Sea’. Cab Calloway was indeed a bandleader, but he did not play bass, and I’ve never heard anyone refer to him being hot-tempered. **Charles Mingus** , on the other hand, was a bassist and band leader, and not a man to be crossed. He famously ripped a handful of strings out of a club owner’s piano in revenge for a scratch on his bass. The cadence referred to is the ‘Corelli cadence’, sometimes called the ‘Corelli clash’. Named for **Arcangelo Corelli** , it is a characteristic sound of an anticipated tonic sounded against its leading tone, and it became considered a cliché. Johann Sebastian Bach was an admirer of Corelli’s music, particularly the Christmas Concertos. The title character in ‘Captain Corelli’s Mandolin’ is a sly reference to this late 17th/early 18th century composer and musician. So - DQ1 - Astorian asked it - I’ll save one until these are answered. DQ2 - Are you renowned for your accomplishments in The Arts, arts being broadly defined as to include writing of any kind, live or recorded performance on stage or in any broadcast medium, visual arts of any type, composition of music, choreography or culinary arts? DQ3 - Are you an American? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/14 "2012-02-10T15:16:05Z")
Correction: The guy who formed a group with the BROTHER of England Dan was Dash Crofts… but I’ll let it slide, since I’m impressed Elendil got Mr. Coley. IQ1: Was your final novel made into a Tony-winning musical by Ruppert “The Pina Colada Song” Holmes? IQ2: Did you leave behind an unfinished novel that was completed by Robert B. Parker, the creator of Spenser? IQ3: Is one of your old, dirty, bloody socks on display at the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/15 "2012-02-10T18:49:29Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > IQ1: Was your final novel made into a Tony-winning musical by Ruppert “The Pina Colada Song” Holmes? > > IQ2: Did you leave behind an unfinished novel that was completed by Robert B. Parker, the creator of Spenser? > > IQ3: Is one of your old, dirty, bloody socks on display at the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown? Dunno about the first, so take a DQ. The second is the book _Poodle Springs_, which I actually read when it came out, from a draft by Raymond Chandler. (Not a great book IMHO.) For the third, no, I’m not Ty Cobb. C. 1. Real person 2. Female 3. First name starts with “C” 4. Not born after 1900 5. Not renowned for accomplishments in the arts 6. American ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/16 "2012-02-10T19:16:06Z")
DQ: Were you born after 1800? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/17 "2012-02-10T21:31:53Z")
IQ1: Were you insulted by The Ramones at your birthday party? IQ2: Did you describe yourself as “a bulldog running along at the feet of Jesus, barking at what He doesn’t like”? IQ3: Did an internet fad feature an animated version of you dancing with your bum out? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/18 "2012-02-11T04:23:50Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > IQ1: Were you insulted by The Ramones at your birthday party? > > IQ2: Did you describe yourself as “a bulldog running along at the feet of Jesus, barking at what He doesn’t like”? > > IQ3: Did an internet fad feature an animated version of you dancing with your bum out? Dunno about one or three, but Yes, I am Carrie Nation! > **[Carrie Nation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Nation)** > > Caroline Amelia Nation (November 25, 1846 – June 9, 1911), often referred to as Carrie, Carry Nation, Carrie A. Nation, or Hatchet Granny, was an American who was a radical member of the temperance movement, which opposed alcohol before the advent of Prohibition. Nation is noted for attacking alcohol-serving establishments (most often taverns) with a hatchet. She married David Nation in 1874. She was previously known by either her birth name, Carrie Moore and, after her first marriage i Nation... Good job! ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/19 "2012-02-12T01:53:30Z")
Ok, first I’ll tie up the loose ends… #1) _The Simpsons’_ Charles Montgomery Burns was told “go to hell you old bastard” by the Ramones when they guest voiced as themselves in the 5th season episode “Rosebud” #3) Comedian Colin Mochrie, best known for _Whose Line Is It Anyway_, is the subject of the flash animation “Bumception”, which features an animated version of Colin mooning the audience while dancing to a tune whose only lyrics are “Colin Mochrie’s Got His Bum Out” Next up: A ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/20 "2012-02-12T03:09:25Z")
Did you fly a helicopter during the Falklands War? Did you live at the Hermitage? Is your mom Gloria Vanderbilt? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308.md?page=2)