# Botticelli, Feb. 2012

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 9, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308 "2012-02-09T14:32:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/21 "2012-02-12T06:06:57Z")

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Just to tie up loose ends…  
Curt Schilling is the guy with a bloody sock in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

And Charles Dickens’ last novel, the unfinished _ **Mystery of Edwin Drood** _, was made into a Tony-winning musical by Ruppert Holmes.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/22 "2012-02-12T07:03:18Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you fly a helicopter during the Falklands War?
> 
> Did you live at the Hermitage?
> 
> Is your mom Gloria Vanderbilt?

I am not Prince Andrew.  
I am not Andrew Jackson.  
Dunno the third one. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/23 "2012-02-12T14:08:00Z")

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1. Did your life provide Gary Cooper with his first Oscar-winning role?

2. Were you the Vice President of the Confederacy?

3. Did you put together “Northern Lights,” to help hungry people in East Africa?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/24 "2012-02-12T17:33:24Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> I am not Prince Andrew.  
> I am not Andrew Jackson.  
> Dunno the third one. Take a DQ.

Correct as to the first two. CNN reporter/personality Anderson Cooper’s mom is Gloria Vanderbilt.

DQ: Male?

IQs:

Was Patrick Lucie your running mate?

Did your wife team up with Susan Baker for a very public cause?

Did you like to be awakened by the sound of bagpipes?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/25 "2012-02-13T19:53:24Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> 1. Did your life provide Gary Cooper with his first Oscar-winning role?
> 
> 2. Were you the Vice President of the Confederacy?
> 
> 3. Did you put together “Northern Lights,” to help hungry people in East Africa?

1. I am not Sergeant Alvin York.
2. I don’t know. Take a DQ.
3. Hmm…Africa musical charities were big in the 1980s.. Northern lights sounds Canadian..80s…Bryan Adams…Aldo Nova…If it were Brian Adams it might have gotten more attention in states… WAG… I am not Aldo Nova?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ: Male?

Yes.

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> Was Patrick Lucie your running mate?
> 
> Did your wife team up with Susan Baker for a very public cause?
> 
> Did you like to be awakened by the sound of bagpipes?

Ouch. 0 for 3.  
Take 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/26 "2012-02-13T21:02:55Z")

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Alvin York and Bryan Adams are right.

Alexander Stephens was Vice PResident of the Confederacy (country singer Ray Stevens used to claim him as an ancestor, though I’m not sure that’s true)

DQ: Real person?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/27 "2012-02-13T21:05:21Z")

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IQ: Did a shy mathematician publish popular stories he’d made up for you?

IQ2: Were you a sergeant in the Italian Army decades before becoming Pope?

IQ3: Did you get your job because Douglas Ginsburg smoked weed?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/28 "2012-02-13T21:18:28Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Was Patrick Lucie your running mate?
> 
> Did your wife team up with Susan Baker for a very public cause?
> 
> Did you like to be awakened by the sound of bagpipes?

John Anderson, independent candidate for President in 1980.

In the mid-Eighties, Al Gore’s wife Tipper teamed up with White House chief of staff Jim Baker’s wife Susan to crusade against obscene and violent music lyrics.

Andrew Carnegie never quite escaped his Scots heritage, nor did he want to.

So we know:

A.

1. Male

DQs:

American?  
First name start with “A”?

I’ll reserve my other DQ to hear whether or not he’s real.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/29 "2012-02-13T21:20:54Z")

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My next three IQs:

Were you and your successor in high government office both born in Scotland?

Were you one of Conan Doyle’s inspirations for Prof. Moriarty?

Were you one of Lincoln’s key hosts in Gettysburg in Nov. 1863?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/30 "2012-02-14T00:37:38Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> DQ: Real person?

Yes

> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ: Did a shy mathematician publish popular stories he’d made up for you?
> 
> IQ2: Were you a sergeant in the Italian Army decades before becoming Pope?
> 
> IQ3: Did you get your job because Douglas Ginsburg smoked weed?

I am not Antonin Scalia. Take DQs for the other 2.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:  
> American?  
> First name start with “A”?

Yes  
No

Recap:  
A

1. Male
2. Real
3. American
4. First name does not start with ‘A’

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/31 "2012-02-14T00:46:27Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> My next three IQs:
> 
> Were you and your successor in high government office both born in Scotland?
> 
> Were you one of Conan Doyle’s inspirations for Prof. Moriarty?
> 
> Were you one of Lincoln’s key hosts in Gettysburg in Nov. 1863?

Take another 3 DQs

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/32 "2012-02-14T02:59:13Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you and your successor in high government office both born in Scotland?
> 
> Were you one of Conan Doyle’s inspirations for Prof. Moriarty?
> 
> Were you one of Lincoln’s key hosts in Gettysburg in Nov. 1863?

Anthony Lytton Blair and Gordon Brown are both, by birth, Scots.

Adam Worth, the master criminal who stole the famous Gainsborough painting of the Duchess of Devonshire.

Penna. Gov. Andrew Curtin welcomed the President to town, and attended his speech dedicating the national cemetery.

DQs:

Now alive?  
In entertainment (musician, actor, writer, director, etc.)?

Saving my other two DQs for now.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/33 "2012-02-14T03:06:02Z")

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1. Alice Liddell inspired Lewis Carroll’s best-known stories.

2. Angelo Roncalli, the futre Pope John the 23rd, was a sergeant in the Italian Army.

3. Anthony Kennedy got the Supreme Court gig after both Robert Bork and Douglas Ginsburg failed.

DQ1) Are you a political figure?

DQ2) Are you known as a writer of any kind?

DQ3) Are you known for involvement in sports/athletics?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/34 "2012-02-14T07:01:08Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:
> 
> Now alive?  
> In entertainment (musician, actor, writer, director, etc.)?
> 
> Saving my other two DQs for now.

No  
Yes

> [@astorian](#):
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> 1. Anthony Kennedy got the Supreme Court gig after both Robert Bork and Douglas Ginsburg failed.

I keep forgetting he was a Reagan appointee. I always think he was Bush 41’s. Guess that’s why I went with Scalia

> [@](#):
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> DQ1) Are you a political figure?
> 
> DQ2) Are you known as a writer of any kind?
> 
> DQ3) Are you known for involvement in sports/athletics?

No  
I’ll say yes  
No

Recap:  
A

1. Male
2. Real
3. American
4. First name does not start with ‘A’
5. Dead
6. Was in entertainment
7. Not a political figure
8. Did write in a sense, but not what I’m most famous for.
9. Not known for involvement in sports or athletics

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/35 "2012-02-14T13:28:00Z")

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1. Did you come up with the so-called Magic Bullet Theory?

2. Was the Baseball Hall of Fame built in your hometown, for dubious reasons?

3. Do you play in a band with people named Lodge, Jones, Mantle and Cooper?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/36 "2012-02-14T14:47:10Z")

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My other two DQs:

Best known for involvement in movies?  
Died before 1950?

Three more IQs:

Did a coworker once say he would gladly have killed your kids?

Did you write the definitive study of the Cuban Missile Crisis?

Did you never meet any of your three archrivals?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/37 "2012-02-14T15:55:22Z")

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IQ1: Were you the Bishop of Hippo?

IQ2: As a band leader, did you once have the gall to tell Earl ‘Fatha’ Hines to ‘Cut it, boy!’?

IQ3: Are you a drummer with the ‘World’s Most Dangerous Band’?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/38 "2012-02-14T18:35:50Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> 1. Did you come up with the so-called Magic Bullet Theory?
> 
> 2. Was the Baseball Hall of Fame built in your hometown, for dubious reasons?
> 
> 3. Do you play in a band with people named Lodge, Jones, Mantle and Cooper?

1. DQ for you - something to do with the JFK assassination I’m guessing
2. Not Abner Doubleday
3. Not Archie of Archie comics fame? I know there’s Veronica Lodge and Betty Cooper. I can’t remember Jughead’s last name, but it could be Jones. And The Archies gave us “Sugar Sugar” which will be stuck in my head for the rest of the day.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> My other two DQs:
> 
> Best known for involvement in movies?  
> Died before 1950?

No, assuming by “movies” you mean feature films.  
No

> [@](#):
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> Three more IQs:
> 
> Did a coworker once say he would gladly have killed your kids?
> 
> Did you write the definitive study of the Cuban Missile Crisis?
> 
> Did you never meet any of your three archrivals?

3 more DQs

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Were you the Bishop of Hippo?
> 
> IQ2: As a band leader, did you once have the gall to tell Earl ‘Fatha’ Hines to ‘Cut it, boy!’?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a drummer with the ‘World’s Most Dangerous Band’?

1. Not Anton Fig, session drummer and drummer (and fill-in bandleader when Paul is otherwise occupied) for David Letterman’s house band.  
Take DQs for the other 2.

Recap:  
A

1. Male
2. Real
3. American
4. First name does not start with ‘A’
5. Dead
6. Was in entertainment
7. Not a political figure
8. Did write in a sense, but not what I’m most famous for.
9. Not known for involvement in sports or athletics
10. Not best known for involvement in feature films
11. Alive in 1950

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/39 "2012-02-14T20:59:28Z")

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Hmm.

Did someone (who later became even more famous) fire you when others refused to do so?

Was your boss bald, testy and have an enormous family?

Were you played, in your most recent incarnation, as a tough-as-nails ex-soldier?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/40 "2012-02-15T01:17:15Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Hmm.
> 
> Did someone (who later became even more famous) fire you when others refused to do so?
> 
> Was your boss bald, testy and have an enormous family?
> 
> Were you played, in your most recent incarnation, as a tough-as-nails ex-soldier?

1)I am not Archibald Cox, who was fired by Robert Bork.  
2) Don’t know, have a DQ  
3) I am not King Arthur? I know the relatively recent Clive Owens version portrayed him as a Roman soldier.

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