# Botticelli, Feb. 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 9, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308 "2012-02-09T14:32:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/61 "2012-02-17T03:44:47Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Walter Pidgeon played Dr. Morbius, the Prospero analog, in “Forbidden Planet”.
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> DQ: Real?
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> IQ: Were you the original bass player for The Ravens?
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> IQ: Did you play guitar for The Detours and The High Numbers?

1. Yes, a real person  
But not Pete Townshend

I assume some famous band was once called the Ravens, but I don’t know which one. Ask a DQ

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/62 "2012-02-17T03:46:24Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Correct as to the first two. In _Alien_, the two engineers and best buddies aboard the USCSS _Nostromo_ were Parker and Brett.
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> DQ: Male?
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> IQs:
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> Were you a murdered European leader of the 1980s?
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> Are you the dog of a kids’ cartoon character?
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> Did you and a bird have a long and unpleasant relationship?

1. Real person
2. Male  
Not Olof Palme

Not Peter Griffin (always battling a giant chicken)

As for the dog… not Mr. Peabody (though he’d claim Sherman is actually his boy)

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/63 "2012-02-17T05:07:25Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> That’s for **ChockFull** , as “It” in this round, to guess. Please don’t give away answers.

My bad.  
Clearly, I don’t understand the rules. I’m glad I got it wrong.

I looked for the rules, but I guess I didn’t go far enough back in linked threads,

until I understand the rules, I’ll stay and lurk.

mea culpa.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/64 "2012-02-17T20:11:16Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I assume some famous band was once called the Ravens, but I don’t know which one. Ask a DQ

You assume correctly. The Kinks originally called themselves The Ravens, so you are not Pete Quaife.

DQ: Still alive?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/65 "2012-02-17T23:13:32Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> You assume correctly. The Kinks originally called themselves The Ravens, so you are not Pete Quaife.
> 
> DQ: Still alive?

No longer alive

1. Real person
2. Male
3. No longer alive

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/66 "2012-02-18T01:16:01Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Not Olof Palme
> 
> Not Peter Griffin (always battling a giant chicken)
> 
> As for the dog… not Mr. Peabody (though he’d claim Sherman is actually his boy)

Correct for Palme.

Not who was I was thinking of as to the bird, but a correct answer. I’ll rephrase.

Pal is the puppy of Arthur, the literary and PBS kids’ cartoon aardvark.

IQ: Long, long ago, did you and a bird have a long and unpleasant relationship?

DQ: American?

> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> My bad.  
> Clearly, I don’t understand the rules. I’m glad I got it wrong.
> 
> I looked for the rules, but I guess I didn’t go far enough back in linked threads,
> 
> until I understand the rules, I’ll stay and lurk.
> 
> mea culpa.

No worries. Check it out, [Botticelli (game) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botticelli_(game)), then play!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/67 "2012-02-18T03:52:01Z")

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1. Real person
2. Male
3. No longer alive
4. American

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/68 "2012-02-18T04:31:53Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQ: Long, long ago, did you and a bird have a long and unpleasant relationship?..

And…?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/69 "2012-02-18T19:24:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> And…?

Okay, ask a DQ. I don’t know who else had a bad time with a bird.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/70 "2012-02-18T20:40:35Z")

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IQ1: Are you an iconic Canadian rock star who sang the immortal words ‘It makes me cream in my jeans when she walks my way’?

IQ2: Are you a modern British playwright?

IQ3: Is the most famous policeman in your mysteries also a published poet?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/71 "2012-02-18T21:13:09Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Okay, ask a DQ. I don’t know who else had a bad time with a bird.

Prometheus: [http://www.magick7.com/FreeBooks/0049/images/maloan\_03.jpg](http://www.magick7.com/FreeBooks/0049/images/maloan_03.jpg)

DQ: Born since 1900?

IQs:

Was a man named Dawes your compatriot?

Did your nickname mean “mouse”?

Was your case argued in New Orleans in a building which still stands?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/72 "2012-02-19T05:18:29Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you an iconic Canadian rock star who sang the immortal words ‘It makes me cream in my jeans when she walks my way’?
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> IQ2: Are you a modern British playwright?
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> IQ3: Is the most famous policeman in your mysteries also a published poet?

Not Harold Pinter or PD James.

But thank God I don’t know the Canadian who sang those lyrics! Take one DQ!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/73 "2012-02-19T05:21:50Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Prometheus: [http://www.magick7.com/FreeBooks/0049/images/maloan\_03.jpg](http://www.magick7.com/FreeBooks/0049/images/maloan_03.jpg)
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> DQ: Born since 1900?
> 
> IQs:
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> Was a man named Dawes your compatriot?
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> Did your nickname mean “mouse”?
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> Was your case argued in New Orleans in a building which still stands?

Not Samuel Prescott or Paul Revere.

But I don’t know the mouse, nor do I know the New Orleans court case. Ask two DQs.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/74 "2012-02-19T05:23:02Z")

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1. Real person
2. Male
3. No longer alive
4. American
5. Born before 1900

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/75 "2012-02-19T20:21:37Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Was a man named Dawes your compatriot?
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> Did your nickname mean “mouse”?
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> Was your case argued in New Orleans in a building which still stands?

Yes as to Paul Revere.

Paul Atreides in _Dune_, whose Fremen nickname “Muad’dib” means “mouse.”

Homer Plessy, plaintiff in _Plessy v. Ferguson_, the “separate but equal” U.S. Supreme Court case.

DQs:

Last name starts with P?  
Born before 1800?

IQs:

Did you have a second life in a sequel to the story in which you were thought to have been killed?

Were you a featured entertainer in the Kennedy White House?

Did you provide the voice of a prominent New York lawyer in a documentary?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/76 "2012-02-20T03:03:58Z")

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1. Real person
2. Male
3. No longer alive
4. American
5. Born before 1900
6. Born after 1800
7. Last name starts with “P”

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/77 "2012-02-20T03:09:20Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you have a second life in a sequel to the story in which you were thought to have been killed?
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> Were you a featured entertainer in the Kennedy White House?
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> Did you provide the voice of a prominent New York lawyer in a documentary?

I’ll guess the Kennedy White House performer was Pablo Casals…

The other two, I have no idea. Take 2 DQs. (Maybe 3)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/78 "2012-02-20T14:06:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you have a second life in a sequel to the story in which you were thought to have been killed?
> 
> Were you a featured entertainer in the Kennedy White House?
> 
> Did you provide the voice of a prominent New York lawyer in a documentary?

Frank Poole, killed by HAL in _2001: A Space Odyssey_ but revived in Arthur C. Clarke’s novel _3001_ after long being frozen.

Yes, cellist Pablo Casals.

Writer and gadfly George Plimpton provided the voice of George Templeton Strong in Ken Burns’s PBS series _The Civil War._

DQs:

Political figure?  
Generally thought of from east of the Mississippi?

IQs:

Were you thought to be a dull lawyer?

Was a coworker puzzled to have to report that you were an only child?

Did a prominent _Star Trek_ actor often play you on stage?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/79 "2012-02-21T12:07:42Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Political figure?  
> Generally thought of from east of the Mississippi?

1. Real person
2. Male
3. No longer alive
4. American
5. Born before 1900
6. Born after 1800
7. Last name starts with “P”
8. Not at all a political figure
9. Hmmm… born East of the Mississippi, lived a long time West of it, became famous and died East of it again.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/80 "2012-02-21T12:11:09Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Were you thought to be a dull lawyer?
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> Was a coworker puzzled to have to report that you were an only child?
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> Did a prominent _Star Trek_ actor often play you on stage?

For #2, no, I am not Pavel Chekhov (I’m not a Trekkie, but I remember the episode where Chekov ranted and raved that someone had killed his brother… and Sulu had to point out that Chekov had no brothers.

Take a DQ for the other 2.

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