# Botticelli, Feb. 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [February 9, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308 "2012-02-09T14:32:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/81 "2012-02-21T14:06:48Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > … > Were you thought to be a dull lawyer? > > Was a coworker puzzled to have to report that you were an only child? > > Did a prominent _Star Trek_ actor often play you on stage? Puddn’head Wilson, from the Twain story of the same name. Correct as to Chekov. Avery Brooks has often played actor/singer/activist Paul Robeson. DQs: Alive in 1950? Entertainer? (singer, songwriter, actor, director, writer, etc.) IQs: Did you once wear a card with your salary around your neck? Were you and two other guys from your country often grouped together? Aaaaand are you another guy from among these three? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/82 "2012-02-21T14:50:46Z")
1. Real person 2. Male 3. No longer alive 4. American 5. Born before 1900 6. Born after 1800 7. Last name starts with “P” 8. Not at all a political figure 9. Born East of the Mississippi, lived a long time West of it, became famous and died East of it again. 10. Died before 1950 11. Best known as either a singer, songwriter, actor, director or writer ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/83 "2012-02-21T14:53:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > .) > > IQs: > > Did you once wear a card with your salary around your neck? > > Were you and two other guys from your country often grouped together? > > Aaaaand are you another guy from among these three? I don’t know any of these, so I guess you have 3 DQs coming ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/84 "2012-02-21T21:07:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did you once wear a card with your salary around your neck? > > Were you and two other guys from your country often grouped together? > > Aaaaand are you another guy from among these three? Dorothy Parker, when she and her magazine colleagues were forbidden by the boss to _talk_ about their salaries, went to a party in which they all wrote them down on placards instead. Luciano Pavoratti and Placido Domingo were two of The Three Tenors. DQs: Best known as a musician? Other two DQs reserved for now. Any suggestions, folks? IQs: Did Clint Eastwood direct a movie about your life? Did Jackie Gleason play you in the sequel to _The Sting_? Were you a Laker Girl before you went on to musical and TV fame? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/85 "2012-02-21T21:11:37Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Did Clint Eastwood direct a movie about your life? > > Did Jackie Gleason play you in the sequel to _The Sting_? > > Were you a Laker Girl before you went on to musical and TV fame? Not Charlie Parker, not Paul Newman, and not Paula Abdul. 1. Real person 2. Male 3. No longer alive 4. American 5. Born before 1900 6. Born after 1800 7. Last name starts with “P” 8. Not at all a political figure 9. Born East of the Mississippi, lived a long time West of it, became famous and died East of it again. 10. Died before 1950 11. Best known as either a singer, songwriter, actor, director or writer 12. Not involved in music ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/86 "2012-02-21T21:26:56Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Were you and two other guys from your country often grouped together? > Luciano Pavoratti and Placido Domingo were two of The Three Tenors. Pavarotti is from Modena, Italy. Placido Domingo is from Madrid, Spain and Jose Carreras is from Barcelona, Spain. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/87 "2012-02-21T21:27:15Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Not Charlie Parker, not Paul Newman, and not Paula Abdul… Correct for the first and third. But Jackie Gleason played a character named Trevor Plantagenet. DQs: Were you involved in movies? Was your greatest fame before WWII? Due to my mixup on the Three Tenors’ origins, I’ll relinquish my remaining DQ. IQs: Did you seek a high office just four years after another person of the same party, ethnic origin and state? Did you make daily progress and then, purposefully, undo it? Did you and Frasier Crane supposedly share an agent? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/88 "2012-02-21T21:56:06Z")
1. Real person 2. Male 3. No longer alive 4. American 5. Born before 1900 6. Born after 1800 7. Last name starts with “P” 8. Not at all a political figure 9. Born East of the Mississippi, lived a long time West of it, became famous and died East of it again. 10. Died before 1950 11. Best known as either a singer, songwriter, actor, director or writer 12. Not involved in music 13. Never personally involved in movie making 14. I did all my best-known work before WW2 ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/89 "2012-02-21T21:58:08Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did you seek a high office just four years after another person of the same party, ethnic origin and state? > > Did you make daily progress and then, purposefully, undo it? > > Did you and Frasier Crane supposedly share an agent? For Frasier Crane… not Dr. Phil McGraw? Take two DQs for the other questions (3 if Dr. Phil is wrong) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/90 "2012-02-22T01:58:40Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did you seek a high office just four years after another person of the same party, ethnic origin and state? > > Did you make daily progress and then, purposefully, undo it? > > Did you and Frasier Crane supposedly share an agent? Paul Tsongas was a Democrat of Greek ancestry from Mass., just as Mike Dukakis was. Penelope, Odysseus’s wife, every night undid the tapestry she’d worked on during the day, to stall her many suitors. Correct as to Dr. Phil. DQ: Were you best known as an author? Other DQ reserved for now. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/91 "2012-02-22T03:05:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Paul Tsongas was a Democrat of Greek ancestry from Mass., just as Mike Dukakis was. > > Penelope, Odysseus’s wife, every night undid the tapestry she’d worked on during the day, to stall her many suitors. > > Correct as to Dr. Phil. > > DQ: > > Were you best known as an author? > > Other DQ reserved for now. 1. Real person 2. Male 3. No longer alive 4. American 5. Born before 1900 6. Born after 1800 7. Last name starts with “P” 8. Not at all a political figure 9. Born East of the Mississippi, lived a long time West of it, became famous and died East of it again. 10. Died before 1950 11. Best known as either a singer, songwriter, actor, director or writer 12. Not involved in music 13. Never personally involved in movie making 14. I did all my best-known work before WW2 15. Best known as an author ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/92 "2012-02-22T15:37:27Z")
**Le Ministre, ChockFull, Stink Fish** , anyone else - get in the game! DQ: Novelist? IQs: Were you impregnated by a self-proclaimed god? Did you admit that your best friend scared you a little? Did you fire on a former teacher? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/93 "2012-02-22T17:41:50Z")
1. Real person 2. Male 3. No longer alive 4. American 5. Born before 1900 6. Born after 1800 7. Last name starts with “P” 8. Not at all a political figure 9. Born East of the Mississippi, lived a long time West of it, became famous and died East of it again. 10. Died before 1950 11. Best known as either a singer, songwriter, actor, director or writer 12. Not involved in music 13. Never personally involved in movie making 14. I did all my best-known work before WW2 15. Best known as an author 16. Not a novelist ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/94 "2012-02-22T17:43:41Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > \*\* > Were you impregnated by a self-proclaimed god? > > Did you admit that your best friend scared you a little? > > Did you fire on a former teacher? Well, we may be up to nearly 20 questions before anyone else gets i nthe game. I have no idea of any of these. So, 3 more DQs. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/95 "2012-02-22T20:49:08Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Were you impregnated by a self-proclaimed god? > > Did you admit that your best friend scared you a little? > > Did you fire on a former teacher? Lt. Carolyn Palamas, briefly lover of “Apollo” in the _Star Trek_ original series episode “Who Mourns For Adonais?” Norm Peterson, asked by Alex Trebek about Cliff Clavin in the _Jeopardy!_ episode of _Cheers_. Gen. Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard, who in April 1861 ordered Confederate batteries in the Charleston, S.C. harbor to fire on Ft. Sumter, commanded by his old West Point artillery instructor, Maj. Robert Anderson. Hmmm. The only non-political, non-novelist pre-WWII American authors I can think of are Thomas Paine (too early), Horace McGuffey and Horatio Alger (neither are "P"s). Any thoughts, folks? ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/96 "2012-02-23T00:18:55Z")
General thoughts…I noticed the wording change on #13 to “not personally involved” in movie-making, which makes me think something of his was adapted to the screen, which, since he’s not a novelist, points to short story writer or playwright. I’m stumped. Edgar Allan Poe comes close, except for #9. Poe spent his entire life on the East Coast. I’ll see if I can think of a helpful DQ and earn it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/97 "2012-02-23T00:49:03Z")
I thought of Ernie Pyle, too, but he fails under #14. More a journalist than an author, too. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/98 "2012-02-23T15:24:10Z")
Don’t read too much into my answer to #13. Suffice it to say, the person I’m thinking of had absolutely no connection to the movie business in any way (though several of his works have been adapted for TV and movies). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/99 "2012-02-23T20:28:50Z")
Still pondering. Here’s an IQ in the meantime: Are you an author whose full name includes a number? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308/100 "2012-02-24T04:26:12Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Still pondering. Here’s an IQ in the meantime: > > Are you an author whose full name includes a number? No idea… another DQ for you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-feb-2012/612308.md?page=6)