# Botticelli, February 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 2, 2014, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337 "2014-02-02T06:47:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/321 "2014-02-17T00:14:46Z")

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Wow, that was fast - good job, **fanganga**!

Previous IQs:

Was Henry Clay a family friend of yours? - Mary Todd Lincoln.  
Did you write about the BOLO robot tanks? - sf author Keith Laumer.  
Were you in both _A League of Their Own_ and _Tank Girl_? - Jon Lovitz wasn’t in the latter movie, that I can see. This was Lori Petty.

On to E.

IQs:

Does Cate Blachett hope to play you at intervals throughout the rest of her career?  
Are you the wife of the centrist Tory MP in _First Among Equals_?  
Did you appear on the cover of _Time_ magazine at age six?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/322 "2014-02-17T00:32:28Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Wow. Way to go, fanganga!
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you write the non-SF novel _Invisible Man_?
> 2. Is your alter ego Ralph Dibny?
> 3. Is your alter ego Jimmy Olsen?

> [@fanganga](#):
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> 1: pass  
> 2: I am not Elongated Man  
> 3: I am not Elastic Lad

#1 was Ralph Ellison.

DQ: Real?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/323 "2014-02-17T00:38:56Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write about a magical coin that granted wishes that were wished twice?  
> IQ2: Did you write about Kimball Kinnison?  
> IQ3: Did you write about the psammead?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> 1: pass  
> 2: pass  
> 3: I am not E. Nesbitt

Edward Eager (_Half Magic_ - you had to wish twice because if you only wished once, the coin would only grant half of your wish.)  
E E “Doc” Smith (the Lensman series).  
Correct on E Nesbit.  
DQ1: American?  
DQ2: Male?  
IQ1: Were you Kay’s father?  
IQ2: Was Aethelred your successor?  
IQ3: When you died, was your country invaded by a foreigner who claimed to be your heir?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/324 "2014-02-17T02:03:20Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the youngest of the Jetson children?
2. Did you write _The Hoosier Schoolmaster_?
3. Were you an influential American poet who was condemned for his support of Fascism, and who was esconced for a time in a mental hospital?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/325 "2014-02-17T04:03:53Z")

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DQ:Living?  
DQ2:Born after 1900?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/326 "2014-02-17T08:03:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Wow, that was fast - good job, **fanganga**!
> 
> Previous IQs:
> 
> Was Henry Clay a family friend of yours? - Mary Todd Lincoln.  
> Did you write about the BOLO robot tanks? - sf author Keith Laumer.  
> Were you in both _A League of Their Own_ and _Tank Girl_? - Jon Lovitz wasn’t in the latter movie, that I can see. This was Lori Petty.
> 
> On to E.
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Does Cate Blachett hope to play you at intervals throughout the rest of her career?  
> Are you the wife of the centrist Tory MP in _First Among Equals_?  
> Did you appear on the cover of _Time_ magazine at age six?

#I am not Elizabeth I  
pass  
I am not … Elizabeth II

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Edward Eager (_Half Magic_ - you had to wish twice because if you only wished once, the coin would only grant half of your wish.)  
> E E “Doc” Smith (the Lensman series).  
> Correct on E Nesbit.  
> DQ1: American?  
> DQ2: Male?  
> IQ1: Were you Kay’s father?  
> IQ2: Was Aethelred your successor?  
> IQ3: When you died, was your country invaded by a foreigner who claimed to be your heir?

Pass on all 3

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you the youngest of the Jetson children?
> 2. Did you write _The Hoosier Schoolmaster_?
> 3. Were you an influential American poet who was condemned for his support of Fascism, and who was esconced for a time in a mental hospital?

I am not Elroy Jetson

pass  
pass

My initial letter is E and  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not American  
3: I am not male.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/327 "2014-02-17T08:09:29Z")

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IQ: Was your lover a deformed bellringer?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/328 "2014-02-17T13:21:39Z")

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Quote:  
Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle View Post

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Are you the youngest of the Jetson children?
> 2. Did you write The Hoosier Schoolmaster?
> 3. Were you an influential American poet who was condemned for his support of Fascism, and who was esconced for a time in a mental hospital?  
> I am not Elroy Jetson
> 
> pass  
> pass

#2 was Edward Eggleston. #3 was Ezra Pound.

DQs:

1. Originally from literature?
2. Protagonist?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/329 "2014-02-17T13:51:21Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you Kay’s father?  
> IQ2: Was Aethelred your successor?  
> IQ3: When you died, was your country invaded by a foreigner who claimed to be your heir?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> Pass on all 3

Sir Ector was Kay’s father (and Arthur’s foster father).  
Edward the Martyr.  
Edward the Confessor.  
DQ1: European?  
DQ2: If you were real, would you be alive today?  
DQ3: first appeared after 190?  
IQ1: Were you an Acadian woman who searched for her lost love?  
IQ2: Were you a co-star with Rupert and Daniel?  
IQ3: Were you turned into a dragon?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/330 "2014-02-17T18:58:29Z")

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Previous IQs:

Does Cate Blachett hope to play you at intervals throughout the rest of her career? - Yes, Queen Elizabeth I, as she’s done twice already.  
Are you the wife of the centrist Tory MP in _First Among Equals_? - Elizabeth Kerslake.  
Did you appear on the cover of _Time_ magazine at age six? - Yes, Queen Elizabeth II, then a young princess: [http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1929/1101290429\_400.jpg](http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1929/1101290429_400.jpg)

One DQ reserved.

By “initial letter” do you mean the first letter of your first name?

IQs:

Did you play a very nice teacher in _Matilda_?  
Was Jane your older and prettier sister?  
Did you often mishear things, and then say “Never mind”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/331 "2014-02-17T19:03:49Z")

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Fictional female, non-American, starting with E… Hmmm.

IQs:

1. Were you Sam Gamgee’s daughter?
2. Are you the protagonist of _Sense and Sensibility_?
3. Are you the protagonist of _Pride and Prejudice_?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/332 "2014-02-17T19:12:32Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Was your lover a deformed bellringer?

Miss this

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/333 "2014-02-17T19:26:32Z")

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IQ1: Are you a sarcastic telephone switchboard operator?  
IQ2: Does your husband frequently call you a dingbat?  
IQ3: Were you the real life inspiration for characters from _Psycho_, _Texas Chainsaw Massacre_ and _Silence of the Lambs_?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/334 "2014-02-18T00:06:23Z")

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You also missed my DQs

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/335 "2014-02-18T00:23:52Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Was your lover a deformed bellringer?

I am not Esmerelda

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ1: Were you an Acadian woman who searched for her lost love?  
> IQ2: Were you a co-star with Rupert and Daniel?  
> IQ3: Were you turned into a dragon?

Pass on all 3

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Did you play a very nice teacher in _Matilda_?  
> Was Jane your older and prettier sister?  
> Did you often mishear things, and then say “Never mind”?

I know the character was Miss Honey, but I don’t know the actress.  
I am not … Emma the eponymous Austen heroine?  
pass

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> Fictional female, non-American, starting with E… Hmmm.
> 
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you Sam Gamgee’s daughter?
> 2. Are you the protagonist of _Sense and Sensibility_?
> 3. Are you the protagonist of _Pride and Prejudice_?

I am not Elanor Gamgee  
pass  
I am not Elizabeth Bennett

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
>
> IQ1: Are you a sarcastic telephone switchboard operator?  
> IQ2: Does your husband frequently call you a dingbat?  
> IQ3: Were you the real life inspiration for characters from _Psycho_, _Texas Chainsaw Massacre_ and _Silence of the Lambs_?

Pass on all 3

My initial letter is E and  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not American  
3: I am not male.  
4: If I was real I would not be alive today  
5: My date of birth is indeterminate, but could conceivably have been around 1900.  
6: I am not from literature  
7: I could be considered a protagonist  
8: I am European  
9: I first appeared after 190. Because I’m feeling generous, I’ll tell you I also appeared after 1900  
10: E is the initial letter of my first name

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/336 "2014-02-18T00:43:59Z")

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After 190. Heh. 😉

Previous IQs:

Did you play a very nice teacher in _Matilda_? - Yes, Miss Honey was played by Embeth Davidtz.  
Was Jane your older and prettier sister? - Yes, from Jane Austen, but this was Elizabeth Bennet in _Pride and Prejudice_ (and I see I was just five minutes ahead of **Prof. P**. in asking about her! I’ll yield my DQ to him).  
Did you often mishear things, and then say “Never mind”? - Emily Litella (Gilda Radner) on SNL.

DQs:

British?  
First appeared in a movie?  
First appeared after 1950?

IQs:

Did you jokingly warn Noel Coward, “They count them before they put them away at night”?  
Did soldiers cheer you in _Breaker Morant_?  
Do some credit you with the introduction of an extra central brake light on American-made cars beginning in the 1980s?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/337 "2014-02-18T00:45:43Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a sarcastic telephone switchboard operator?  
> IQ2: Does your husband frequently call you a dingbat?  
> IQ3: Were you the real life inspiration for characters from _Psycho_, _Texas Chainsaw Massacre_ and _Silence of the Lambs_?

> [@fanganga](#):
>
> Pass on all 3

IQ1: Lily Tomlin’s recurring character Ernestine.  
IQ2: Edith Bunker from _All in the Family_  
IQ3: Ed Gein  
I’ll hold off on my 3 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/338 "2014-02-18T00:55:04Z")

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Quote:  
Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle View Post  
Fictional female, non-American, starting with E… Hmmm.

> [@](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you Sam Gamgee’s daughter?
> 2. Are you the protagonist of Sense and Sensibility?
> 3. Are you the protagonist of Pride and Prejudice?
> 
> I am not Elanor Gamgee  
> pass  
> I am not Elizabeth Bennett

#2 was Elinor Dashwood.

I’ll hold on to my DQ until other questions are answered.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/339 "2014-02-18T01:28:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> After 190. Heh. 😉
> 
> Previous IQs:
> 
> Did you play a very nice teacher in _Matilda_? - Yes, Miss Honey was played by Embeth Davidtz.  
> Was Jane your older and prettier sister? - Yes, from Jane Austen, but this was Elizabeth Bennet in _Pride and Prejudice_ (and I see I was just five minutes ahead of **Prof. P**. in asking about her! I’ll yield my DQ to him).  
> Did you often mishear things, and then say “Never mind”? - Emily Litella (Gilda Radner) on SNL.
> 
> DQs:
> 
> British?  
> First appeared in a movie?  
> First appeared after 1950?
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Did you jokingly warn Noel Coward, “They count them before they put them away at night”?  
> Did soldiers cheer you in _Breaker Morant_?  
> Do some credit you with the introduction of an extra central brake light on American-made cars beginning in the 1980s?

pass  
I am not … Dwight Eisenhower?  
pass

My initial letter is E and  
1: I am not real  
2: I am not American  
3: I am not male.  
4: If I was real I would not be alive today  
5: My date of birth is indeterminate, but could conceivably have been around 1900.  
6: I am not from literature  
7: I could be considered a protagonist  
8: I am European  
9: I first appeared after 190. Because I’m feeling generous, I’ll tell you I also appeared after 1900  
10: E is the initial letter of my first name  
11: I am British  
12: I did not first appear in a movie  
13: I first appeared after 1950

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/340 "2014-02-18T01:30:04Z")

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IQ: Were you known for your lack of diction?

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