# Botticelli, February 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 2, 2014, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337 "2014-02-02T06:47:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/441 "2014-02-20T21:29:23Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you marry Ruth?
> 2. Do you help defend the good people of Mayberry?
> 3. Were you one of the earliest recording stars whose keynote was performing works by George M. Cohan?

Not Boaz.  
Not Barney Fife.  
DQ.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you the hero of the _Walking Tall_ movies?  
> Did you write the short story collection _Manifest Destiny_?  
> Did you appear, seated, in a Pepsi ad with a singer and a dog?

Not Buford Pusser.  
DQ.  
DQ.

**B**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name does not start with B
5. American
6. Died after 1950
7. Primarily known for the Arts
8. Did not die of natural causes
9. Not born east of the Mississippi
10. Born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
11. Probably best known for the performing arts, but known for other activities (artistic and otherwise - see DQ7) as well
12. Killer did not face prosecution
13. Did not die since 1990
14. Actor, but not known for it (listed on IMDb with a few minor roles)
15. Killer possibly known to public (according to which theory is believed)
16. Death involved a vehicle, in that he died of complications from a gunshot wound received whilst sitting in a car
17. Acting credits are in TV, but again, not widely known as an actor
18. Not black
19. Probably best known for music

I have combined etv’s last DQ with DQ 16, and have slightly reworded EH’s last DQ. (To me, “a musician” is an instrumentalist.)

By my count, **Spoons** has 4 reserved DQs, **Le Ministre** and **Elendil’s Heir** have 3 each, and **fanganga** and **Prof P** have 1 each.

I’ll be back in a few hours to answer all accumulated questions…

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/442 "2014-02-20T22:00:12Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Were you comforted by Juan Romero after you were shot?  
> IQ2: Do we know you from such films as “All About Eve,” and “Now, Voyager”?  
> IQ3: Did you portray Sue Ann Nivens?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Three DQs.

Bobby Kennedy was comforted by Juan Romero. Bette Davis was in “All About Eve” and “Now, Voyager”; and Betty White played Sue Ann Nivens on the “Mary Tyler Moore Show.”

Hm. Thinking…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/443 "2014-02-20T22:00:53Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you marry Ruth?
> 2. Do you help defend the good people of Mayberry?
> 3. Were you one of the earliest recording stars whose keynote was performing works by George M. Cohan?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not Boaz.  
> Not Barney Fife.  
> DQ.

#3 was Billy Murray. (No relation to Bill Murray.)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/444 "2014-02-20T23:02:42Z")

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To me, a musician is one who makes music by any means. Then you can get more specific as to a composer, singer, instrumentalist, etc.

Previous IQs:

Were you the hero of the _Walking Tall_ movies? - Yes, Buford Pusser.  
Did you write the short story collection _Manifest Destiny_? - Barry Longyear.  
Did you appear, seated, in a Pepsi ad with a singer and a dog? - Bob Dole: [Britney Spears Pepsi Commercial with Bob Dole [High Quality] - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu5dIRv9Czc)

I have no idea who this guy is. I yield any of my accumulated DQs to whoever would like to ask them (just one, I guess, since we’re at 19 DQs already).

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2014, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/445 "2014-02-20T23:25:03Z")

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DQ: Rapper?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/446 "2014-02-21T21:39:29Z")

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Stumped. I can’t even think of a useful DQ to move the puck up the ice. Just as well, seeing we don’t have any left.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> (To me, “a musician” is an instrumentalist.)

Just so’s you know, making a distinction between singers and musicians is something that really ticks us singers off, as it implies that singers somehow aren’t musicians.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/447 "2014-02-21T21:54:32Z")

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Ministre-I don’t make that distinction.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/448 "2014-02-21T22:13:15Z")

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Yeah, to me a musician is anyone connected with music: that would include not only singers or instrumentalists, but arrangers, composers, music producers…

But I’m still coming up blank on who this guy is.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/449 "2014-02-21T22:51:02Z")

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Add me to the camp that says that the “musician” category includes singers, composers, instrumentalists, etc.

And I’m drawing a blank as well.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/450 "2014-02-21T23:21:08Z")

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Good heavens - only one DQ, and not a single last-minute IQ?  
**B**

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name does not start with B
5. American
6. Died after 1950
7. Primarily known for the Arts
8. Did not die of natural causes
9. Not born east of the Mississippi
10. Born south of the Mason-Dixon Line
11. Probably best known for the performing arts, but known for other activities (artistic and otherwise - see DQ7) as well
12. Killer did not face prosecution
13. Did not die since 1990
14. Actor, but not known for it (listed on IMDb with a few minor roles)
15. Killer possibly known to public (according to which theory is believed)
16. Death involved a vehicle, in that he died of complications from a gunshot wound received whilst sitting in a car
17. Acting credits are in TV, but again, not widely known as an actor
18. Not black
19. Probably best known for music
20. Not a rapper

Okay, one DQ for each of the six people who have already been awarded DQs, in the “Are you Firstname Lastname?” format.

A clue for those who really want one: Often wore green headgear.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/451 "2014-02-22T03:47:59Z")

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My best guess, which is most probably wrong, is:

DQ: Are you Bobby Darin?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/452 "2014-02-22T04:22:25Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> My best guess, which is most probably wrong, is:
> 
> DQ: Are you Bobby Darin?

I am not.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/453 "2014-02-22T05:35:11Z")

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I’m baffled. I yield my “Are you Firstname Lastname?” question to anyone who’d like to ask it.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/454 "2014-02-22T12:05:27Z")

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I’ll be home around 7 EDT this evening, and will announce victory or defeat then.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/455 "2014-02-22T12:49:44Z")

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I can only think of one American celebrity with a first name starting with B who died before his time and hasn’t already come up. I think he doesn’t fulfill all the DQs, but I’ll ask anyway. Are you Bill Hicks?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/456 "2014-02-23T02:16:09Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> I can only think of one American celebrity with a first name starting with B who died before his time and hasn’t already come up. I think he doesn’t fulfill all the DQs, but I’ll ask anyway. Are you Bill Hicks?

I am not.

That’s it? Nobody else? I am [singer-songwriter](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbQ9zbLiUno), author, actor, and US Army combat medic SSG Barry Sadler.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/457 "2014-02-23T02:20:03Z")

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Put silver wings on my son’s chest…  
I can say without qualification I would never have guessed him. Good one, SCAdian!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/458 "2014-02-23T04:21:49Z")

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Yes, indeed. A (uniformed) one-hit wonder.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/459 "2014-02-23T15:51:55Z")

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Moving right along: I am **J**.  
Offhand, how many of you recognise the following names?  
Sergio Aragonés  
Scott McCloud  
Antonio Prohias  
Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca  
(I considered using one of these, but thought they might be too obscure.)

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/460 "2014-02-23T16:01:30Z")

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Sca-Don’t recognize any of those, nor who you did use.

IQ: Were you fixed up with the help of the A-rod people like?  
IQ2- Did you write a song recounting 40 years of 20th c. history?  
IQ3: Are you from the “Small Town” of Seymour, IN?

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