# Botticelli, February 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 2, 2014, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337 "2014-02-02T06:47:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/41 "2014-02-03T23:10:58Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you speak for a horse?  
> IQ2: Are you the main character in four novels by John Updike?  
> IQ3: Were you deposed by Henry of Bolingbroke?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> Take a DQ for 1. For 2, I’m not Rabbit. For 3, I’ll guess at Richard II; if I’m wrong, take a DQ.

Western star Allan “Rocky” Lane was the voice of Mr Ed.  
Correct on Rabbit.  
Correct on Richard II.  
DQ: Created by a male author?  
One DQ reserved.  
IQ1: Were you a fighter ace who served in both the French and the US air forces during WW I?  
IQ2: Were you the top-scoring US ace in WW I?  
IQ3: Did you, a former college roommate, and two others make an unsuccessful test flight of an experimental starship?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/42 "2014-02-03T23:12:28Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you summoned to the court of Noble to answer charges put against you by Isingrim?
2. Are you the brown Wizard?
3. Did you Dial “H” for Hero?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/43 "2014-02-03T23:23:45Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQ: from a literary genre (e.g., fantasy, horror, science fiction, mystery) rather than mainstream?

From a literary genre.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ: Created by a male author?  
> One DQ reserved.

Created by a male author.

Summary for R:

1. Not real.
2. Dead.
3. Male.
4. Created by an American.
5. Originally from a work of literature.
6. Story is set in the United States
7. Story is set after 1900.
8. Last name does not begin with R.
9. Not military/political.
10. First appeared in a book published after 1960.
11. Not from a series.
12. The work has not been adapted for film or TV.
13. From a literary genre.
14. Created by a male author.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/44 "2014-02-03T23:31:48Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a fighter ace who served in both the French and the US air forces during WW I?  
> IQ2: Were you the top-scoring US ace in WW I?  
> IQ3: Did you, a former college roommate, and two others make an unsuccessful test flight of an experimental starship?

No idea on 1 and 3. For 2, I’ll guess at Eddie Rickenbacker.

Two DQs (three if Rickenbacker is incorrect).

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you summoned to the court of Noble to answer charges put against you by Isingrim?
> 2. Are you the brown Wizard?
> 3. Did you Dial “H” for Hero?

Number 3 is Robby Reed. Take two DQs for 1 and 2.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/45 "2014-02-03T23:42:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you summoned to the court of Noble to answer charges put against you by Isingrim?
> 2. Are you the brown Wizard?
> 3. Did you Dial “H” for Hero?
> 
> Number 3 is Robby Reed. Take two DQs for 1 and 2.

#1 is Reynard the Fox, called to the court of Noble the Lion to face charges from Isingrim the Wolf.  
#2 is Radagast the Brown from LOTR.

DQs:

1. Protagonist?
2. From a work of science fiction?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/46 "2014-02-03T23:45:37Z")

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IQs:

1. When she was pregnant with you, did your mother crave the neighbor’s rampion?
2. Were you the alter ego of Quality Comics’ The Human Bomb?
3. Do you routinely perform lounge versions of heavy metal standards?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/47 "2014-02-03T23:51:05Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQs:
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> 1. Protagonist?
> 2. From a work of science fiction?

Yes, protagonist. No, not science fiction.

Summary for R:

1. Not real.
2. Dead.
3. Male.
4. Created by an American.
5. Originally from a work of literature.
6. Story is set in the United States
7. Story is set after 1900.
8. Last name does not begin with R.
9. Not military/political.
10. First appeared in a book published after 1960.
11. Not from a series.
12. The work has not been adapted for film or TV.
13. From a literary genre.
14. Created by a male author.
15. Protagonist.
16. Not from a work of science fiction.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/48 "2014-02-03T23:58:15Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. When she was pregnant with you, did your mother crave the neighbor’s rampion?
> 2. Were you the alter ego of Quality Comics’ The Human Bomb?
> 3. Do you routinely perform lounge versions of heavy metal standards?

For 1, I am not Rapunzel. For 2, I’m not Roy Lincoln.

No idea on 3. All I can think of is a Second City TV sketch where Dave Thomas does a lounge version of “Turning Japanese,” but that song is not heavy metal, and “Dave Thomas” is not an R name. Take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/49 "2014-02-04T00:14:10Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you a fighter ace who served in both the French and the US air forces during WW I?  
> IQ2: Were you the top-scoring US ace in WW I?  
> IQ3: Did you, a former college roommate, and two others make an unsuccessful test flight of an experimental starship?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> No idea on 1 and 3. For 2, I’ll guess at Eddie Rickenbacker.

Raoul Lufbery.  
Correct on Eddie Rickenbacker.  
Reed Richards of the Fantastic Four.  
DQ: From a mystery novel?  
Two DQs reserved.  
IQ1: Are you famous for fighting oil-well fires?  
IQ2: Are you a fictional Georgia sheriff?  
IQ3: Did time travellers provide nitroglycerin pills to a fictional version of you?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/50 "2014-02-04T00:25:44Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ: From a mystery novel?  
> Two DQs reserved.

Not from a mystery novel.

Summary for R:

1. Not real.
2. Dead.
3. Male.
4. Created by an American.
5. Originally from a work of literature.
6. Story is set in the United States
7. Story is set after 1900.
8. Last name does not begin with R.
9. Not military/political.
10. First appeared in a book published after 1960.
11. Not from a series.
12. The work has not been adapted for film or TV.
13. From a literary genre.
14. Created by a male author.
15. Protagonist.
16. Not from a work of science fiction.
17. Not from a mystery novel.

> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you famous for fighting oil-well fires?  
> IQ2: Are you a fictional Georgia sheriff?  
> IQ3: Did time travellers provide nitroglycerin pills to a fictional version of you?

For 1, I’m not Red Adair; and for 3, I’m not Robert E. Lee. No idea on 2–DQ for you.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/51 "2014-02-04T02:02:18Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Are you famous for fighting oil-well fires?  
> IQ2: Are you a fictional Georgia sheriff?  
> IQ3: Did time travellers provide nitroglycerin pills to a fictional version of you?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> For 1, I’m not Red Adair; and for 3, I’m not Robert E. Lee. No idea on 2–DQ for you.

Correct on Red Adair.  
Rosco P Coltrane, sheriff of Hazzard County.  
Correct on Robert E Lee.  
Three DQs reserved…

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/52 "2014-02-04T02:34:43Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Steve Martin play you, the mentally-disturbed younger brother of a very suave fellow? - Yes, from _Dirty Rotten Scoundrels_ - his character was Prince Ruprecht: [Steve Martin - Ruprecht - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX3ePAOUK7U)  
Did you climb atop a table to wearily sing? - Robert F. Kennedy, after his brother won the Democratic primary in West Virginia, according to Theodore H. White in _The Making of the President 1960_.  
Did a rival take issue with your use of the word “treason”? - The lead character in _Reilly, Ace of Spies_ (another spy said something to the effect of leaving words such as that out in the hallway with the umbrellas).

DQs:

A denizen of the greater NYC area?  
Ever use a gun?  
Married?

IQ:

Are you a guy nicknamed after a small herbivore?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/53 "2014-02-04T03:37:56Z")

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Quote:  
Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle View Post

> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. When she was pregnant with you, did your mother crave the neighbor’s rampion?
> 2. Were you the alter ego of Quality Comics’ The Human Bomb?
> 3. Do you routinely perform lounge versions of heavy metal standards?
> 
> For 1, I am not Rapunzel. For 2, I’m not Roy Lincoln.
> 
> No idea on 3. All I can think of is a Second City TV sketch where Dave Thomas does a lounge version of “Turning Japanese,” but that song is not heavy metal, and “Dave Thomas” is not an R name. Take a DQ.

#3 is the amazing [Richard Cheese](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf-n3fAwpU4). Shown in this video covering Metallica’s _Enter Sandman_.

I’ll wait on my DQ.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/54 "2014-02-04T04:06:31Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Rosco P Coltrane, sheriff of Hazzard County.

:smack: Never thought about Roscoe P. Coltrane. I was thinking it was from the song, “The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia,” which does have a sheriff in it, but I couldn’t remember if he had a name.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/55 "2014-02-04T04:15:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:
> 
> A denizen of the greater NYC area?  
> Ever use a gun?  
> Married?

Not from NYC.  
Never used a gun.  
Not married.

Summary for R:

1. Not real.
2. Dead.
3. Male.
4. Created by an American.
5. Originally from a work of literature.
6. Story is set in the United States
7. Story is set after 1900.
8. Last name does not begin with R.
9. Not military/political.
10. First appeared in a book published after 1960.
11. Not from a series.
12. The work has not been adapted for film or TV.
13. From a literary genre.
14. Created by a male author.
15. Protagonist.
16. Not from a work of science fiction.
17. Not from a mystery novel.
18. Not from NYC.
19. Never used a gun.
20. Not married.

> [@](#):
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> IQ:
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> Are you a guy nicknamed after a small herbivore?

Ratso Rizzo? If not, DQ for you.

That brings us to 20 DQs, with three outstanding for **SCAdian** , one for the **Professor** , and possibly one for **Elendil’s Heir**.

What do we want to do now? Use those up, or do you want a clue of some sort, or something else entirely?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/56 "2014-02-04T04:45:29Z")

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Typically at this point everyone who has earned a DQ this game gets to ask one more DQ in the form of “Are you Firstname Lastname?”, after we’ve had a chance to mull it over.

So we have a fantasy or horror (or another form of literary genre not covered above) male protagonist, whose last name doesn’t start with R, from an American book by a male author that appeared after 1960, not part of a series, not adapted for film or TV, who isn’t married and doesn’t carry a gun, and set in the present day world (more or less). Did I miss anything?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/57 "2014-02-04T04:54:43Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Typically at this point everyone who has earned a DQ this game gets to ask one more DQ in the form of “Are you Firstname Lastname?”, after we’ve had a chance to mull it over.

Sure, that’s fine by me.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/58 "2014-02-04T05:22:59Z")

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Previous IQ:

Are you a guy nicknamed after a small herbivore? - This was Rabbit from the Updike books.

Think think think.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/59 "2014-02-04T18:10:19Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Are you an uncompromising vigilante who took his name from someone already mentioned on this thread?

That was Rorschach, from Watchmen.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2014, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2014/680337/60 "2014-02-05T05:13:57Z")

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I’ve been thinkin’ for days, and all I come up with is Science Fiction. I’m stumped.

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