# Botticelli February 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [February 2, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611 "2015-02-02T16:01:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/341 "2015-02-19T15:14:56Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Dead
3. American

1. Died before 1950

1. Very much involved in politics, but that’s not what I’m best known for
2. Last name starts with C
3. Died after 1900.
4. Not a military figure
5. Male
6. Born North of Mason-Dixon Line
7. Not involved in the arts
8. Born East of the Mississippi
9. No involvement with science
10. Largely known for a single, sort-of historical sort-of “event”
11. Last name starts with CM-CZ
12. Many people thought I was crooked (or at least shady), but that’s not what made me famous. Regardless, I was never formally charged with a crime.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/342 "2015-02-19T15:16:32Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did Robert De Niro play in you in a movie, wielding a baseball bat?  
> Did you play Eddie Morra?  
> Were you Morra’s mentor and later rival?

Not Al Capone

Take DQs for #2 and #3

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/343 "2015-02-19T15:17:33Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you special counsel to President Nixon?  
> IQ2: Were you a Civil War soldier recently awarded the Medal of Honor?  
> IQ3: Were you a British merchant skipper who became an Australian SF author?

Not… Chuck Colson?

Take DQs for #2 and #3

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/344 "2015-02-19T16:14:33Z")

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DQ: Known for business?

IQs:

1. Did you hang around with Spinner and Paddlefoot?
2. Were you aka Captain Nice?
3. Did you post a masked but topless pic of yourself at Mardi Gras?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/345 "2015-02-19T16:33:17Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Dead
3. American

1. Died before 1950

1. Very much involved in politics, but that’s not what I’m best known for
2. Last name starts with C
3. Died after 1900.
4. Not a military figure
5. Male
6. Born North of Mason-Dixon Line
7. Not involved in the arts
8. Born East of the Mississippi
9. No involvement with science
10. Largely known for a single, sort-of historical sort-of “event”
11. Last name starts with CM-CZ
12. Many people thought I was crooked (or at least shady), but that’s not what made me famous. Regardless, I was never formally charged with a crime.
13. Not a businessman

Please think about answer #5. It’s important!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/346 "2015-02-19T16:35:42Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you hang around with Spinner and Paddlefoot?
> 2. Were you aka Captain Nice?
> 3. Did you post a masked but topless pic of yourself at Mardi Gras?

No idea on #1 or #2

Not CHelsea Handler

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/347 "2015-02-19T16:37:55Z")

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IQ1: Is the White Sox stadium named after you?  
IQ2: Were you a pitcher for the White Sox nicknamed “Knuckles” who confessed your part in the Black Sox scandal to the Chicago grand jury?  
IQ3: Are you considered the ringleader of the Black Sox scandal?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/348 "2015-02-19T16:40:43Z")

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#5 is key here. To give you an idea of what I mean…  
SUPPOSE my mystery person was John Wilkes Booth. If you asked “Are you an actor,” or “Are you in the arts” the answer would be “Very much so- but that’s not what I’m famous for. I’m famous for ONE thing that’s not related to my career.”

In this case, when you asked “Are you involved in politics,” the answer is emphatically “YES, but that’s NOT why I’m well remembered today. If I’d just lived out my life in my political post and retired, nobody would know my name. I’m remembered for one thing that’s PROBABLY not related to my job.”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/349 "2015-02-19T16:49:35Z")

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Hmm. Interesting hints.

Previous IQs:

Did Robert De Niro play in you in a movie, wielding a baseball bat? - Yes, Al Capone, in _The Untouchables_  
Did you play Eddie Morra? - Bradley Cooper, in the terrific technothriller _Limitless_  
Were you Morra’s mentor and later rival? - Carl Van Loon, also played by De Niro, in _Limitless_

DQs:

Ever elected to Federal office?

One DQ reserved. What else should I ask? We’re on the home stretch here.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/350 "2015-02-19T17:53:18Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Is the White Sox stadium named after you?  
> IQ2: Were you a pitcher for the White Sox nicknamed “Knuckles” who confessed your part in the Black Sox scandal to the Chicago grand jury?  
> IQ3: Are you considered the ringleader of the Black Sox scandal?

Not Charlie Comiskey or Eddie Cicotte

Take a DQ for #3, which I’m sure I’ll know as soon as you tell me.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/351 "2015-02-19T17:56:31Z")

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# SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Dead
3. American

1. Died before 1950

1. Very much involved in politics, but that’s not what I’m best known for
2. Last name starts with C
3. Died after 1900.
4. Not a military figure
5. Male
6. Born North of Mason-Dixon Line
7. Not involved in the arts
8. Born East of the Mississippi
9. No involvement with science
10. Largely known for a single, sort-of historical sort-of “event”
11. Last name starts with CM-CZ
12. Many people thought I was crooked (or at least shady), but that’s not what made me famous. Regardless, I was never formally charged with a crime.
13. Not a businessman
14. Never held a federal office

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/352 "2015-02-19T17:57:51Z")

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HUGE Hint: While the answer I gave to question #2 is legally true and almost certainly FACTUALLY true… I can’t be completely sure.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/353 "2015-02-19T18:00:23Z")

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Thanks for all these hints!

IQs:

Were you a New York judge who disappeared under suspicious circumstances?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/354 "2015-02-19T18:12:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Is the White Sox stadium named after you?  
> IQ2: Were you a pitcher for the White Sox nicknamed “Knuckles” who confessed your part in the Black Sox scandal to the Chicago grand jury?  
> IQ3: Are you considered the ringleader of the Black Sox scandal?  
> Not Charlie Comiskey or Eddie Cicotte
> 
> Take a DQ for #3, which I’m sure I’ll know as soon as you tell me.

Chick Gandil

Waiting for the new round. 🙂

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/355 "2015-02-19T19:00:21Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Thanks for all these hints!
> 
> IQs:
> 
> Were you a New York judge who disappeared under suspicious circumstances?

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

I am\*\* Judge Joseph F. Crater\*\*, who disappeared after leaving a Manhattan restaurant. I was declared dead in 1939… but since my body was never found, hypothetically, I could be alive at the age of 126.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/356 "2015-02-19T20:32:24Z")

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Well done, EH!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/357 "2015-02-20T22:34:42Z")

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Thanks! Our next letter is

B

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/358 "2015-02-20T22:49:23Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you married to Hugh Hefner for a time?
2. Did your refusal to marry him bring about Gaston’s obsession?
3. Did you paint a famous series of four nudes, one for each season?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/359 "2015-02-20T23:44:55Z")

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IQ1: Are two of your recurring characters on SNL Slappy Pappy and Drunk Uncle?  
IQ2: Were you a coach of the Indiana Hoosiers infamous for throwing chairs across the court?  
IQ3: Did your hit “Mack the Knife” win a Grammy in 1960?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-february-2015/711611/360 "2015-02-20T23:47:15Z")

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IQ1: Did you write about David Innes and Abner Perry?  
IQ2: Did you and your friend Honey plan to become detectives when you grew up?  
IQ3: Were you Bert, Nan, and Freddie’s sister?

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