# Botticelli General Questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [December 1, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223 "2019-12-01T01:50:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/41 "2023-08-08T01:55:14Z")
All this makes sense to me. For last names, a useful place to check is the Wiki bio. On second and subsequent references, _that’s_ the last name: “Beethoven,” for instance, and not “von Beethoven.” ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/42 "2023-08-08T16:21:52Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Speaking of European, Is the UK European? How about Russia? Also is India Asian? Yes, obviously. Yes, becausse its capital and major cities are in Europe. Yes, obviously > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > How are years handled > Is an event happened in 1950 and I’m asked “After 1950”, how should I respond. If it happened _in_ 1950, it is neither before nor after 1950. “Before 1950” ends on 31 Dec 1949, and “after 1950” begins on 1 Jan 1951. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Names with “de” and “von” (for example): Is Ludwig van Beethoven a “V”? I’m assuming everyone would say he’s a “B”. Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/43 "2024-01-16T21:43:09Z")
Bumping for more players. Happy New Year! ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/44 "2024-09-22T15:40:54Z")
(Bumping for question) As pointed out to me, this is about characters, real or fictional. Could I use an object of a character, say like the Mona Lisa or Statue of David? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/45 "2024-09-22T18:27:27Z")
I’d say no. You could use Lisa del Giocondo, who is believed to have been the inspiration or model for the Mona Lisa, and you could use David, but not specific items. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/46 "2024-09-24T06:26:19Z")
I tend to agree. I think Mona Lisa herself would be fair play, though, or David, either as a person, but not “the da Vinci painting known as the _Mona Lisa_” or “Michelangelo’s statue of David.” ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/47 "2025-01-01T21:08:41Z")
In one of the DQs the question was “has appeared in prose” or something like that. Can someone define prose, as opposed to print? I assume it to indicate books or novels, but how would a graphic novel be defined? And another thing: both “George of the Jungle” and “Zippy the Pinhead” are singular names with an identifying noun; how would you answer the question of “last name begins with [a - z]”? ---
**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/48 "2025-01-02T00:53:04Z")
> [@knoodler](#): > > Can someone define prose, as opposed to print? Stuff composed of only or primarily of sentences (and not poetry). So graphic novels wouldn’t count, because they’re mainly pictures, with the only prose being in the dialogue and captions. Both prose literature and graphic novels would be print, I guess. > [@knoodler](#): > > how would you answer the question of “last name begins with [a - z]”? You would say “_only_ name begins with [a - z]”. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223/49 "2025-01-02T16:56:23Z")
Yeah, only name begins with a=z. As in Ivan the Terrible or Casper the Friendly Ghost. Titles don’t count UNLESS their part of a well-known (usually superhero) code name. Examples: Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Fate, Miss America, all of whom are usually considered as having two names as listed on the Internet. And prose has been determined in previous discussions as NOT to include plays. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-general-questions/844223.md?page=2)