# Botticelli, January 2012

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 1, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083 "2012-01-01T21:33:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 3

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/41 "2012-01-07T23:27:04Z")

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Here is my guess: are you Virginia O’Hanlon?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/42 "2012-01-08T02:40:05Z")

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Stumped - I’ll pass on a guess.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/43 "2012-01-10T19:54:35Z")

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The suspense is killing me.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/44 "2012-01-12T20:54:52Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> Here is my guess: are you Virginia O’Hanlon?

This is correct: [Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes,_Virginia,_there_is_a_Santa_Claus)

**AppallingGael** has disabled PMs and has not responded to my email of five days ago, asking if he’d done research (forbidden under Botticelli rules) or knew this from memory. If he doesn’t respond in the next, say, 24 hours, I’ll start the next round here.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/45 "2012-01-13T19:25:23Z")

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I did not realize I had PMs off, but I certainly did not see that it was going to be an issue in this game. I have played enough games here that it would be quite surprising if I did not know the rules by now, and so I resent bitterly the insinuation that I have chosen this moment to cheat. I am no longer interested in playing with Elendil’s Heir, so he or anyone else may feel free to start the next round.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/46 "2012-01-13T21:17:54Z")

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Sorry to have offended you. My apologies. Start the next round, if you wish.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/47 "2012-01-15T23:36:29Z")

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:: sigh ::

OK, then.

**Next letter: J.**

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/48 "2012-01-16T01:30:22Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> :: sigh ::
> 
> OK, then.
> 
> **Next letter: J.**

IQ1: Are you famous for your paintings of the American flag?  
IQ2: Was the lead guitarist of the Grateful Dead named after you?  
IQ3: Were you kidnapped by a fan in the novel that inspired the movie _ **Field of Dreams?** _

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/49 "2012-01-16T02:37:48Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ1: Are you famous for your paintings of the American flag?
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> IQ2: Was the lead guitarist of the Grateful Dead named after you?
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> IQ3: Were you kidnapped by a fan in the novel that inspired the movie _ **Field of Dreams?** _

No, I’m not Jasper Jones, Jorge Garcia, or Shoeless Joe Jackson.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/50 "2012-01-16T06:20:55Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, I’m not Jasper Jones, Jorge Garcia, or Shoeless Joe Jackson.

Jasper Johns is correct.

But Jerry Garcia was named after **Jerome Kern**

And the guy who got kidnapped in the novel _ **Shoeless Joe** _ was **Jerome David (JD) Salinger.**  
DQ1: Real person?

DQ2: Male?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/51 "2012-01-16T16:12:03Z")

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IQ1: Are you the only British monarch to bear this name?

IQ2: Are you one of Brazil’s best known songwriters?

IQ3: Are you a French Renaissance composer who composed at least a hundred settings of the Mass?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/52 "2012-01-16T18:04:20Z")

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IQ: Were you the first literary character ever to be described as “Dead As A Doornail”?

IQ: Was it your lifelong dream to become “a double-naught spy” like James Bond?

IQ: Was “The Great White Hope” based on your life and boxing career?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/53 "2012-01-16T18:28:02Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you the only British monarch to bear this name?
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> IQ2: Are you one of Brazil’s best known songwriters?
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> IQ3: Are you a French Renaissance composer who composed at least a hundred settings of the Mass?

I’m not King John, dunno about the Brazilian or the Frenchman.

> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ: Were you the first literary character ever to be described as “Dead As A Doornail”?
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> IQ: Was it your lifelong dream to become “a double-naught spy” like James Bond?
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> IQ: Was “The Great White Hope” based on your life and boxing career?

You got me on all three.

J.

1. Real person
2. Male

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/54 "2012-01-16T22:21:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **Le Ministre de l’au-delà**  
> IQ1: Are you the only British monarch to bear this name?
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> IQ2: Are you one of Brazil’s best known songwriters?
> 
> IQ3: Are you a French Renaissance composer who composed at least a hundred settings of the Mass?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’m not King John, dunno about the Brazilian or the Frenchman.

Quite right on King John.

Antonio Carlos Jobim, nicknamed ‘Tom’, is the composer of ‘The Girl from Ipanema’, ‘One Note Samba’, ‘Corcovado’ (known in English as ‘Quiet Nights’) and many others.

Josquin des Prez composed secular music as well, but he is (arguably) best known for his masses, including ‘Missa Pange Lingua’, ‘Missa Sine Nomine’ and two 'Missa L’Homme Armé’s. (I hope the fact I was listening to him last night on my iPod doesn’t count as research…)

DQ1 - Were you born since 1900?

DQ2 - Are you an American?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/55 "2012-01-17T01:00:23Z")

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1. Jacob Marley was described as “dead as a doornail” in Dickens’ \*\*\*A Christmas Carol.

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1. Jethro Bodine wanted to be a “double naught spy,” when he wasn’t relaxing in the “cee-ment pond.”

2. The play and movie _ **The Great White Hope** _ were inspired by Jack Johnson, the first black heavyweight boxing champion.  
DQ: Born after 1900?  
DQ: American?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/56 "2012-01-17T01:22:42Z")

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Umm, **Astorian**? Are you sure you want to ask _those_ DQs?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/57 "2012-01-17T14:52:25Z")

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J.

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. American

Great minds think alike! **astorian** , ask two other DQs, if you please.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/58 "2012-01-17T20:37:40Z")

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DQ1: Still Alive?

DQ2: Known as a performer on stage, screen or television?

DQ3: Last name start with J?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/59 "2012-01-17T22:05:23Z")

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I think you just have two DQs coming your way, don’t you, **astorian**? Want me to answer the first two?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/60 "2012-01-17T22:55:46Z")

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Okay, take the first 2.

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