# Botticelli, January 2012

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 1, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083 "2012-01-01T21:33:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/81 "2012-01-24T18:32:50Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ: Have you been portrayed by such luminaries as Spencer Tracy, Frederic March, John Barrymore, and David Hasselhoff?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, I’m not… Dr. John H. Watson?

You are not Dr. Henry Jekyll, sometimes known as Mr. Edward Hyde.

DQ: Are you known as a scientist or inventor?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/82 "2012-01-24T20:01:06Z")

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IQ1: Was Regis Philbin the “Ed McMahon” of your late night talk show?  
IQ2: Did you win major league baseball’s first "Rookie of the Year 'award?  
IQ3: Did you win big bucks answering boxing questions on “The $64,000 Question” before becoming a popular newspaper advice columnist?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/83 "2012-01-26T20:13:52Z")

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IQ1: Did the dancer Salome make you lose your head?

IQ2: Can you be reached at 867-5309?

IQ3: Were you replaced by a member of the Police when you sat out your band’s reunion tour?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/84 "2012-01-27T01:20:28Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ1: Was Regis Philbin the “Ed McMahon” of your late night talk show?
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> IQ2: Did you win major league baseball’s first "Rookie of the Year 'award?
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> IQ3: Did you win big bucks answering boxing questions on “The $64,000 Question” before becoming a popular newspaper advice columnist?

No, Im not Jack Paar, Reggie Jackson or Dr. Joyce Brothers.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Did the dancer Salome make you lose your head?
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> IQ2: Can you be reached at 867-5309?
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> IQ3: Were you replaced by a member of the Police when you sat out your band’s reunion tour?

No, I’m not John the Baptist, Jenny or… dunno about the third.

J.

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not best known as a performer on stage, screen or television
7. Last name started with J
8. Not a political figure
9. Did some writing, but not best known for that
10. Did not die before 1950
11. Not known for athletic achievements
12. Born east of the Mississippi River
13. Not involved in painting, sculpting, photography or any of the other fine arts
14. Not a scientist or inventor

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/85 "2012-01-27T05:59:33Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, Im not Jack Paar, Reggie Jackson or Dr. Joyce Brothers.

Dr Joyce Brothers is absolutely right!

But Regis Philbin was Joey Bishop’s sidekick. And Jackie Robinson was the first baseball Rookie of the Year  
DQ1: Were you still alive in the 21st century?

DQ2: Were you known as a businessman or entrepreneur?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/86 "2012-01-27T06:51:09Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ3: Were you replaced by a member of the Police when you sat out your band’s reunion tour?

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No, I’m not John the Baptist, Jenny or… dunno about the third.

You are not John Densmore, formerly of The Doors, who chose not to participate in the Doors of the 21st Century reunion, and was replaced with Stewart Copeland.

astorian asked my businessman DQ, so I’ll hold off on my DQ until I see the answer.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/87 "2012-01-27T12:07:52Z")

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IQ: Did you outrage America with your soulful rendition of “The Star-Spangled Banner” at the 1968 World Series?  
IQ2: Did you create a popular literary monarch who lived in the city of Celesteville?  
IQ3: Were you given a magical ring by a dying alien superhero?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/88 "2012-01-27T17:14:16Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ: Did you outrage America with your soulful rendition of “The Star-Spangled Banner” at the 1968 World Series?
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> IQ2: Did you create a popular literary monarch who lived in the city of Celesteville?
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> IQ3: Were you given a magical ring by a dying alien superhero?

You got me on the first. The second is about Babar and the third is about Green Lantern, I think, but I’ll be damned if I can remember their names.

J.

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not best known as a performer on stage, screen or television
7. Last name started with J
8. Not a political figure
9. Did some writing, but not best known for that
10. Did not die before 1950
11. Not known for athletic achievements
12. Born east of the Mississippi River
13. Not involved in painting, sculpting, photography or any of the other fine arts
14. Not a scientist or inventor
15. Not still alive in the 21st century
16. Not best known as a businessman or entrepreneur

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/89 "2012-01-27T17:18:40Z")

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Jose Feliciano did the soul version of the anthem at the 1968 World Series

Jean de Brunhoff created King Babr the elephant

Hal Jordan was Green Lantern.  
DQ1: Were you Caucasian?

DQ2: Were you known as a villain or criminal?

DQ3: Were you known for one special/memorable event, rather than for a long career?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/90 "2012-01-29T04:52:33Z")

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Good questions, **astorian**.

J.

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not best known as a performer on stage, screen or television
7. Last name started with J
8. Not a political figure
9. Did some writing, but not best known for that
10. Did not die before 1950
11. Not known for athletic achievements
12. Born east of the Mississippi River
13. Not involved in painting, sculpting, photography or any of the other fine arts
14. Not a scientist or inventor
15. Not still alive in the 21st century
16. Not best known as a businessman or entrepreneur
17. Caucasian
18. Not known as a villain or criminal
19. Not known for one special/memorable event, rather than for a long career

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/91 "2012-01-31T17:03:27Z")

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I’m just dropping in with a bump - I believe **ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness** still has an unasked DQ coming, which would make our requisite 20.

Table talk - are there any military figures who meet the criteria? The writing could be memoirs, and the long career could be in Korea or Vietnam…

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/92 "2012-02-01T00:11:22Z")

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Forgot I still had a DQ left. I like Le Minstre’s question

DQ: Are you a military figure?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/93 "2012-02-01T15:24:26Z")

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J.

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Born after 1900
4. American
5. Dead
6. Not best known as a performer on stage, screen or television
7. Last name started with J
8. Not a political figure
9. Did some writing, but not best known for that
10. Did not die before 1950
11. Not known for athletic achievements
12. Born east of the Mississippi River
13. Not involved in painting, sculpting, photography or any of the other fine arts
14. Not a scientist or inventor
15. Not still alive in the 21st century
16. Not best known as a businessman or entrepreneur
17. Caucasian
18. Not known as a villain or criminal
19. Not known for one special/memorable event, rather than for a long career
20. Not a military figure

Everyone who has, in this round, earned a DQ may now each ask one “Are you [firstname lastname]?” question by noon EST on Feb. 3.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/94 "2012-02-01T21:45:16Z")

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_Table talk_ (We are allowed to brainstorm as long as it doesn’t involve research, right? If we aren’t, disregard this post.) - what can someone become famous for outside of the military, crime, business, science/invention, athletics, politics or any of the arts? (I mean, we’ve got performance onstage, screen or television, writing, painting, sculpture, photography, or any of the other fine arts - even though music isn’t specifically mentioned in there, I’m assuming between ‘performance onstage’ and ‘any of the other fine arts’, we’ve got that eliminated.) So what the heck did this 20th century American Caucasian male born east of the Mississippi **DO**? Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/95 "2012-02-02T02:45:24Z")

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Yes, of course you can brainstorm as long as you do no research. Go for it.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/96 "2012-02-02T17:08:10Z")

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Brainstorming: Religious figure maybe? I was thinking the Rev. Jim Jones, he fits all of the criteria except #19 and possibly #18. Despite a lengthy career as a preacher and social activist, I would argue he’s best known for one event, the mass suicide at Jonestown, and as a mass murderer, he’s definitely a villian (#18).  
Maybe some other religous type? Although a televangelist may be eliminated under #6.  
Ooh… what about a radio personality? The performance DQ (#6) rules out stage, screen, and television, but does not rule out radio.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/97 "2012-02-05T04:26:20Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> J…Everyone who has, in this round, earned a DQ may now each ask one “Are you [firstname lastname]?” question by noon EST on Feb. 3.

C’mon, sportsfans! I’ll extend this until 9am EST on Feb. 6.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/98 "2012-02-05T13:48:43Z")

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Gah! I’m stumped. There’s no one I can think of at all that fulfills all of those criteria.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/99 "2012-02-07T04:28:27Z")

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OK, it’s Robert Weston Smith, commonly known as

Wolfman Jack

> **[Wolfman Jack](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfman_Jack)**
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> Robert Weston Smith (January 21, 1938 – July 1, 1995), known as Wolfman Jack, was an American disc jockey active for over 3 decades. Famous for the gravelly voice which he credited for his success, saying, "It's kept meat and potatoes on the table for years for Wolfman and Wolfwoman. A couple of shots of whiskey helps it. I've got that nice raspy sound."
> Smith was born in Brooklyn, New York on January 21, 1938, the younger of two children of Anson Weston Smith, an Episcopal Sunday school teach...

I’ll start the next round in a few days.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2012/608083/100 "2012-02-07T06:55:18Z")

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Dang, my radio hunch was correct. I still wouldn’t have gotten him because (a) I didn’t know his real name and (b) I didn’t realize he was dead. I just thought he wasn’t on the air in LA anymore, and was either retired or on an oldies station in another market.

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