# Botticelli - January 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 7, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391 "2013-01-07T20:36:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/201 "2013-01-27T20:40:14Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did Gavrilo Princip shoot your nephew, who was your heir?  
> IQ2: Are you that nephew?  
> IQ3: Did you play the mother of three and the stepmother of three?

I am not Franz Joseph  
I am not Franz Ferdinand  
I am not Florence Henderson

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/202 "2013-01-27T20:47:34Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> 2 DQs reserved

DQ: Did you die before 1900?  
DQ: Were you a novelist?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/203 "2013-01-27T20:51:46Z")

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The letter is F

1. I am female
2. I am real
3. I am an artist as defined above
4. My last name begins with F
5. I am Americam
6. I am deceased
7. I am not an actress
8. I am a writer of some kind
9. I died before 1980
10. I was born before 1900
11. I am not a poet
12. I died after 1900
13. I am not a novelist

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/204 "2013-01-28T05:05:31Z")

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IQ1: Was the musical _Showboat_ based on your work?  
IQ2: Did you base the fictional Yoknapatawpha County on your home in Mississippi?  
IQ3: Did you implore a classical composer to rock you?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/205 "2013-01-28T12:36:51Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ1: Was the musical _Showboat_ based on your work?  
> IQ2: Did you base the fictional Yoknapatawpha County on your home in Mississippi?  
> IQ3: Did you implore a classical composer to rock you?

I am not Edna Ferber  
DQ  
I am not Falco

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/206 "2013-01-28T16:59:54Z")

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IQ1: Are you part of a company of dwarves setting out to free Erebor?

IQ2: Was your brother part of the Fellowship of the Ring?

IQ3: Are you the Ent who rescues Merry and Pippen? (He’s better known by another name, but he has many…)

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/207 "2013-01-28T17:04:21Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you part of a company of dwarves setting out to free Erebor?  
> IQ2: Was your brother part of the Fellowship of the Ring?  
> IQ3: Are you the Ent who rescues Merry and Pippen? (He’s better known by another name, but he has many…)

I should probably not admit this… I do not like Tolkien. I know all three of your IQ’s are from his books, but I have no idea. I’ll throw out Frodo as an answer to one of them, as Frodo is one of the names I know off the top of my head.

IOW, three DQs for you

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/208 "2013-01-28T17:27:39Z")

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> [@MissTake](#):
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> The letter is F
> 
> 1. I am female
> 2. I am real
> 3. I am an artist as defined above
> 4. My last name begins with F
> 5. I am Americam
> 6. I am deceased
> 7. I am not an actress
> 8. I am a writer of some kind
> 9. I died before 1980
> 10. I was born before 1900
> 11. I am not a poet
> 12. I died after 1900
> 13. I am not a novelist

Fanny Farmer? Cookbooks?

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/209 "2013-01-28T17:40:58Z")

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Make that Fannie Farmer

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/210 "2013-01-28T17:45:31Z")

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Sorry If I broke Protocol on asking questions - I had not read earlier in this thread

1Q1. Did you write cookbooks until around 1913?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/211 "2013-01-28T17:48:21Z")

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Doesn’t matter, **Labtrash** , as you are correct!

I am Fannie Farmer, author of the _Boston Cooking - School Cook Book_!

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/212 "2013-01-28T18:12:24Z")

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Wow ! It was just a shot in the dark, too (I’ve lurked in this thread, but haven’t participated until just now)! Figures, I’m traveling the next couple of days, but I will do my best to keep this going!

We’re up to G, correct?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/213 "2013-01-28T18:12:47Z")

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Well done, **Labtrash**! Take it away! G would be fun, but it’s your call…

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> IQ1: Are you part of a company of dwarves setting out to free Erebor?
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> IQ2: Was your brother part of the Fellowship of the Ring?
> 
> IQ3: Are you the Ent who rescues Merry and Pippen? (He’s better known by another name, but he has many…)

> [@MissTake](#):
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> I should probably not admit this… I do not like Tolkien. I know all three of your IQ’s are from his books, but I have no idea. I’ll throw out Frodo as an answer to one of them, as Frodo is one of the names I know off the top of my head.
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> IOW, three DQs for you

Oh, dear, you mustn’t admit that! Not that Tolkien is so dear to me, but now I shall be forced to use this information against you in a future round. 🙂

These are **Fili** from The Hobbit, **Faramir** from The Lord of the Rings and **Fangorn** , better known as Treebeard, also from The Lord of the Rings.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/214 "2013-01-28T18:32:14Z")

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Welcome to thread, **Labtrash** - nice entrance!

> [@Enginerd](#):
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> IQ2: Did you base the fictional Yoknapatawpha County on your home in Mississippi?

This was William Faulkner.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/215 "2013-01-30T04:01:45Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Are you a male former SNL cast member now with a show of your own?  
> Were you a noteworthy Irish nobleman who supported Irish independence?  
> Did a magazine profile of you, oddly enough, describe you stripping down for a swim in NYC?

Yes, Jimmy Fallon.  
Edward FitzGerald.  
Fred Rogers, everybody’s favorite kindly neighbor, in _GQ_.

Way to go, **LabTrash**!

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/216 "2013-02-01T17:45:21Z")

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OK, I think I have one

I’m going off the alphabetical and I am jumping to the letter R

This will probably be a very short game !

One thing - this DQ thing - basically, if _ **I** _ don’t know what you’re asking, _ **you** _ are DQ’d?

So, let’s have at it:

R

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/217 "2013-02-01T18:06:27Z")

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DQ in these threads doesn’t mean disqualified - it’s shorthand for “direct question.” The game works in two parts: indirect questions (IQs) and direct questions (DQs).

Initially, everybody has to ask indirect questions. You think of somebody whose name begins with the appropriate letter and ask it. If you (the answerer) know the answer, you’d say “I’m not [fill in the blank].” If you don’t, then the questioner gets a DQ, which is a yes-or-no question. Questioners earn one DQ for every IQ that stumps the answerer. Convention is that we ask no more than three IQs at a time, and we often reserve DQs for later. Here are a couple of examples for the letter J.

Example 1: The answerer knows the person referred to in the IQ:  
Questioner: Are you the lord and savior of one of the world’s major religions?  
Answerer: I’m not Jesus Christ.

Example 2: the answerer does not know the person referred to in the IQ:  
Questioner: Did you and your brother lead a gang of outlaws in the old west?  
Answerer: You get a DQ.  
Questioner: That was Jesse James. ok, DQ: Are you male?  
Answerer: Yes, I’m male.  
A couple of conventions we’ve generally been using:  
We don’t ask more than 3 IQs at a time.  
DQs can be reserved if necessary (this happens most often when there are DQs pending, but it happens other times as well).  
DQs can be transferred (this generally happens late in a game when we’re close to stumped)  
The answerer posts a list of answered DQs.

Have I missed anything? Everyone should feel free to add anything I’ve overlooked.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/218 "2013-02-01T18:14:29Z")

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I’ll get us started on R.

IQ: Did you have a costly fumble the weekend before last?  
IQ: Were you the sole survivor from the Nostromo?  
IQ: Did you build it, so that he would come?

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/219 "2013-02-01T20:58:23Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> I’ll get us started on R.
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> IQ: Did you have a costly fumble the weekend before last?  
> IQ: Were you the sole survivor from the Nostromo?  
> IQ: Did you build it, so that he would come?

Not Ridley (although, being a NE fan, I was NOT happy about it  
Not Ripley  
Not Ray Cansella

QUESTION: No looking up answers, correct? I admit I looked up Ray Cansella’s last name, but knew it was a Field of Dreams reference

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/220 "2013-02-01T23:03:50Z")

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IQ1: Were you killed whilst in pursuit of “Wop” May?  
IQ2: Did you order “asparagus” planted in Normandy?  
IQ3: If you weren’t called by your name, would you retain that dear perfection which you owe without that title?

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