# Botticelli - January 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391 "2013-01-07T20:36:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/341 "2013-02-13T21:40:40Z")
Table Talk - I’m not a US citizen, so I’m not as aware of these things as others. What other US political positions are not elected? IIRC, judges are elected, not appointed in the US. We’ve eliminated cabinet and the diplomatic corps - what’s left? Other chiefs of staff? An interesting little problem to chew on… With the dates we’ve got, this person’s military service could have been in any of WWI, WWII, the Korean War or even Vietnam, and it doesn’t sound like it’s a key point to recognizing this person in any case. Hmph. Off to do some dishes and cogitate. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/342 "2013-02-13T21:53:01Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Table Talk - I’m not a US citizen, so I’m not as aware of these things as others. What other US political positions are not elected? IIRC, judges are elected, not appointed in the US. We’ve eliminated cabinet and the diplomatic corps - what’s left? Other chiefs of staff? An interesting little problem to chew on… > > With the dates we’ve got, this person’s military service could have been in any of WWI, WWII, the Korean War or even Vietnam, and it doesn’t sound like it’s a key point to recognizing this person in any case. Hmph. Off to do some dishes and cogitate. You’re wrong about our federal judges! They are universally appointed. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/343 "2013-02-13T21:54:07Z")
IQ: Were you "W"s CIA director? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/344 "2013-02-13T21:59:15Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Were you "W"s CIA director? Not George Tenet. There are many ways to be “a political/military figure.” And judges are elected in some states, appointed in others. As **etv78** says, all Federal judges are appointed. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/345 "2013-02-13T23:00:07Z")
IQ1: Were you a Marine Corps test pilot and US Senator who was best known for a different job? IQ2: Were you responsible for drafting a legal justification for torture? IQ3: Does a memorial to you and your crew read, in part, “_ad astra per aspera_”? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/346 "2013-02-14T01:33:05Z")
Removed. I think **Enginerd** may have it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/347 "2013-02-14T05:37:53Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Were you a Marine Corps test pilot and US Senator who was best known for a different job? > IQ2: Were you responsible for drafting a legal justification for torture? > IQ3: Does a memorial to you and your crew read, in part, “_ad astra per aspera_”? Not John Glenn, Alberto Gonzalez or… dunno the third. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/348 "2013-02-14T12:42:01Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ3: Does a memorial to you and your crew read, in part, “_ad astra per aspera_”? Gus Grissom - the Latin phrase (“a rough road leads to the stars”) is on the Cape Canaveral memorial to the crew of Apollo 1. DQ: Did you die before 1980? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/349 "2013-02-14T13:21:19Z")
I’m going to cash in my reserved DQ. DQ - Are you a member of the US Judiciary system? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/350 "2013-02-14T14:24:53Z")
G. 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not involved in the creative arts 6. Died after 1950 7. Born before 1950 8. Known as a political/military figure 9. G is the initial letter of my last name 10. Not an elected official 11. Not a Cabinet secretary 12. Not known primarily as a military figure 13. Not a diplomat 14. Not born east of the Mississippi 15. Died after 1980 16. Not a member of the U.S. judiciary ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/351 "2013-02-14T16:57:50Z")
IQ1: Are you and your mother antagonists of an epic hero? IQ2: Did you command the troops that repelled a cold-war superpower from your country? IQ3: Do you recommend that people shoot law enforcement officials in the head in case they’re wearing body armor? ---
**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/352 "2013-02-14T19:09:33Z")
IQ1 Were you a serial killer who dressed as a clown? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/353 "2013-02-15T01:47:05Z")
> [@Enginerd](#): > > IQ1: Are you and your mother antagonists of an epic hero? > IQ2: Did you command the troops that repelled a cold-war superpower from your country? > IQ3: Do you recommend that people shoot law enforcement officials in the head in case they’re wearing body armor? Not Grendel, Che Guevara (at the Bay of Pigs) or the incredibly stupid G. Gordon Liddy. > [@Labtrash](#): > > IQ1 Were you a serial killer who dressed as a clown? Not John Wayne Gacy. G. 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not involved in the creative arts 6. Died after 1950 7. Born before 1950 8. Known as a political/military figure 9. G is the initial letter of my last name 10. Not an elected official 11. Not a Cabinet secretary 12. Not known primarily as a military figure 13. Not a diplomat 14. Not born east of the Mississippi 15. Died after 1980 16. Not a member of the U.S. judiciary ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/354 "2013-02-16T18:07:56Z")
May as well use one of my DQs… Died after 1999? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/355 "2013-02-19T20:18:06Z")
IQ1: Are you a founding member of the Quintette du Hot Club de France? IQ2: Are you the title character of a ballet? IQ3: Were you a Canadian born economic adviser to John F. Kennedy? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/356 "2013-02-19T21:22:15Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you a founding member of the Quintette du Hot Club de France? > IQ2: Are you the title character of a ballet? > IQ3: Were you a Canadian born economic adviser to John F. Kennedy? Dunno the first; not Giselle; dunno the third. Two DQs? G. 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not involved in the creative arts 6. Died after 1950 7. Born before 1950 8. Known as a political/military figure 9. G is the initial letter of my last name 10. Not an elected official 11. Not a Cabinet secretary 12. Not known primarily as a military figure 13. Not a diplomat 14. Not born east of the Mississippi 15. Died after 1980 16. Not a member of the U.S. judiciary 17. Died before 1999 ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/357 "2013-02-20T16:47:40Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > IQ1: Are you a founding member of the Quintette du Hot Club de France? > IQ2: Are you the title character of a ballet? > IQ3: Were you a Canadian born economic adviser to John F. Kennedy? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno the first; not Giselle; dunno the third. Two DQs? Giselle is right, from the ballet by Adolphe Adam. #1. is **Stephane Grapelli** , who was the violinist in the Quintette. The other famous member was Django Reinhardt, guitarist extraordinaire. #3. is **John Kenneth Galbraith** , prolific author and economic advisor to JFK. He was born near St. Thomas, Ontario. I’ll have to reserve my DQs for a while; I confess myself to be quite stymied. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/358 "2013-02-21T16:17:35Z")
Never heard of Grapelli. I hadn’t known Galbraith was born in Canada - interesting! A college friend of mine served as a research assistant for him, and found him to be a very smart and courtly old gentleman. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/359 "2013-02-21T21:04:17Z")
Well, it might help if I spelled his name right - [Stéphane Grappelli](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HyMSnWL2to), here playing with Bucky Pizzarelli. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/360 "2013-02-22T00:59:36Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > Well, it might help if I spelled his name right - [Stéphane Grappelli](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HyMSnWL2to), here playing with Bucky Pizzarelli. Thanks, but it wouldn’t have made any difference! I wouldn’t know him under either spelling. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391.md?page=19)