# Botticelli - January 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 7, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391 "2013-01-07T20:36:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/361 "2013-02-24T21:39:18Z")
Well, this round seems to have stalled. Let’s say, if the three remaining DQs haven’t all been earned, asked and answered, and everyone eligible hasn’t then asked their “Are you [firstname][lastname]?” questions, by noon Fri. EST, I’ll reveal the answer and start the next round. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/362 "2013-02-25T00:45:50Z")
I have at least one DQ that I haven’t used yet, if anybody else wants it… ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/363 "2013-02-25T04:20:03Z")
nevermind ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/364 "2013-02-25T06:22:46Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Well, this round seems to have stalled. Let’s say, if the three remaining DQs haven’t all been earned, asked and answered, and everyone eligible hasn’t then asked their “Are you [firstname][lastname]?” questions, by noon Fri. EST, I’ll reveal the answer and start the next round. I got nuthin’. I’m looking forward to the start of the next round. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/365 "2013-02-25T15:06:06Z")
I want to try one DQ just to clarify something; I’m taking the response to #12 as meaning this person did serve in the military. Perhaps knowing which conflict/at what time might help… DQ - Although you say you are not known primarily as a military figure, did you serve in any branch of the US military at any rank during the Vietnam War? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/366 "2013-02-25T19:56:43Z")
> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#): > > I want to try one DQ just to clarify something; I’m taking the response to #12 as meaning this person did serve in the military… All I did was repeat **Enginerd** ’s wording of that particular DQ, but in any event… G. 1. Real 2. Male 3. Dead 4. American 5. Not involved in the creative arts 6. Died after 1950 7. Born before 1950 8. Known as a political/military figure 9. G is the initial letter of my last name 10. Not an elected official 11. Not a Cabinet secretary 12. Not known primarily as a military figure 13. Not a diplomat 14. Not born east of the Mississippi 15. Died after 1980 16. Not a member of the U.S. judiciary 17. Died before 1999 18. Did not serve in any branch of the U.S. military at any rank during the Vietnam War ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/367 "2013-02-25T20:31:37Z")
I am officially stumped - I’m looking forward to finding out who this is! ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/368 "2013-02-26T03:34:47Z")
If you want to kill it now instead of waiting until Friday, that’s fine with me… ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/369 "2013-02-26T12:13:23Z")
Yeah, I’m totally buffaloed as well - as I said before, I think any American kid with a passing mark in grade 9 ‘Civics’ would be a better source of ideas than I am at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/370 "2013-02-26T15:25:33Z")
Since all the regular players seem stumped, I’ll just go ahead and reveal the answer now: it’s political polling trailblazer George Gallup > **[George Gallup](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gallup)** > > George Horace Gallup (November 18, 1901 – July 26, 1984) was an American pioneer of survey sampling techniques and inventor of the Gallup poll, a successful statistical method of survey sampling for measuring public opinion. > Gallup was born in Jefferson, Iowa, the son of Nettie Quella (Davenport) and George Henry Gallup, a dairy farmer. As a teen, George Jr., known then as "Ted", would deliver milk and used his salary to start a newspaper at the high school, where he also played football. His ... Next round to start in a day or so. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/371 "2013-02-26T17:02:57Z")
My hat is off to you - what a well considered choice. World famous, household name and such an unusual profession that I’ve no idea how I could have got there with our usual occupation questions. Well deserved win, **Elendil’s Heir**!! ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/372 "2013-02-26T17:24:10Z")
Indeed - well played, **EH**! ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/373 "2013-02-26T17:56:53Z")
8 is VERY misleading! His job was a pollster, not lawmaker. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/374 "2013-02-26T18:14:30Z")
I don’t think it was misleading at all. “Political figure” covers a lot of territory - government officials, sure, but also commentators, political journalists, and, yes, pollsters. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/375 "2013-02-27T03:04:15Z")
I would consider all those to be _media figures_, not _political figures_. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/376 "2013-02-27T03:41:53Z")
Well, they’re both. If I’d said that the foremost political pollster of his day, a man whose name became synonymous with campaign polling, wasn’t a “political figure,” it would’ve been pretty misleading to you all. And as I said in post 344, > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …There are many ways to be “a political/military figure.” … ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/377 "2013-02-27T15:04:41Z")
Still disagree strongly. However, at least we can finally end this “January 2013” thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/378 "2013-02-27T15:09:52Z")
In fact, I think I’ll just start the next round on Friday, so it’ll be the March thread. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/379 "2013-02-27T18:36:04Z")
Good one, **Elendil’s Heir**! And thanks for letting us know who the person was finally. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/380 "2013-03-01T23:00:38Z")
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