# Botticelli - January 2013

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 7, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391 "2013-01-07T20:36:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/21 "2013-01-10T00:18:29Z")

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Well, that was about the quickest game I’ve seen…

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/22 "2013-01-10T03:04:45Z")

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Good heavens, what have I done?

All right, I’m going to try to do this, but… I’m in the middle of rehearsals right now, so I might have to respond to questions in odd little bursts at the beginning and end of my day.

I am… **B**.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/23 "2013-01-10T05:16:37Z")

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My answers from the last round:

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you a charismatic but fictitious guy on the Moon?  
> Were you played by Maren Jensen in a Seventies TV show?  
> Were you buried at sea from the deck of the USS _Philippine Sea_?

This was Adam Selene from Heinlein’s _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_.  
Athena, Cmdr. Adama’s daughter on the original _Battlestar Galactica_.  
Neil Armstrong, God rest his soul, late last year.

Way to go, **Ministre**!

IQs for this round:

Did you write _Enemy Mine_?  
Were you noted for your elaborate choreography?  
Did you have to determine your boyfriends’ spongeworthiness?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/24 "2013-01-10T05:27:05Z")

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No, I’m not Barry Longyear.  
No, I’m not George Ballanchine.  
Umm, what?!? I have no idea what you’re referring to; take a DQ.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/25 "2013-01-10T05:58:01Z")

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IQ: Is an internet game named after you?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/26 "2013-01-10T09:23:48Z")

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Nicely done, **Le Ministre**!

For the record, the answers to my most recent IQs were:

> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Did your friends and associates include William Herndon, Joshua Speed, and John Hay?
> 
> IQ2: Did you host a House Party on TV in the 1950s and 1960s?
> 
> IQ3: Do you work in the grocery store, savin’ your pennies for someday?

IQ1: Abraham Lincoln

IQ2: Art Linkletter

IQ3: Anthony, from the Billy Joel song, “Anthony’s Song (Movin’ Out).”

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/27 "2013-01-10T13:00:50Z")

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IQ: Did you supposedly kill a bar on a tree?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/28 "2013-01-10T14:12:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs for this round:
> 
> Did you write _Enemy Mine_?  
> Were you noted for your elaborate choreography?  
> Did you have to determine your boyfriends’ spongeworthiness?

Yes, Barry Longyear.  
I’ll rephrase.  
Elaine Benes from _Seinfeld_: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQBKB4s1ks](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQBKB4s1ks)

DQ:

Male?

IQs:

Were you noted for your elaborate movie choreography?  
Were you Lincoln’s first Attorney General?  
Were you a Confederate general with an elaborate French name?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/29 "2013-01-10T14:47:00Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Is an internet game named after you?

No, I’m not **Sandro Botticelli**. (You almost got me on that one; we played Botticelli in the back of the car on long trips when I was a kid. I don’t really think of it as an ‘internet’ game.)

> [@SCAdian](#):
>
> IQ: Did you supposedly kill a bar on a tree?

No, I’m not **Daniel Boone**.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you noted for your elaborate movie choreography?  
> Were you Lincoln’s first Attorney General?  
> Were you a Confederate general with an elaborate French name?

No, I’m not **Busby Berkeley**. (sp.?)  
I don’t know.  
No, I’m not Jeneconnaispas Beauregard. Yeah, alright, you should get a DQ for that. (Wasn’t there some Confederate whose name was Beauregard, though?)

> [@](#):
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> DQ:
> 
> Male?

Yes.

Summary:

1. Male

2 DQs outstanding to **Elendil’s Heir**

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/30 "2013-01-10T19:02:56Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Were you noted for your elaborate movie choreography?  
> Were you Lincoln’s first Attorney General?  
> Were you a Confederate general with an elaborate French name?

Yes, Busby Berkeley.  
Edward Bates.  
The delightfully-overnamed Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard.

DQs:

Real?  
American?

IQs:

Were your nicknames “Spoons” and “Beast”?  
Did a young Helen Mirren once play your girlfriend?  
Did you tell a customer how to overcome your employer’s defenses?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/31 "2013-01-10T19:40:37Z")

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IQs:

Were Caspar and Melchior your traveling companions?

Was your body double in your last film the director’s wife’s chiropractor?

Were you a multi-instrumentalist that died shortly after being kicked out of the band you founded?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/32 "2013-01-10T20:09:07Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were your nicknames “Spoons” and “Beast”?  
> Did a young Helen Mirren once play your girlfriend?  
> Did you tell a customer how to overcome your employer’s defenses?

Hmm. I dunno - DQ.  
I think that’s a reference to ‘The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover’, but I can’t remember the name of Michael Gambon’s character, nor the name of the lover nor the actor who played him. - DQ  
No, I’m not **Bob Parr** , Mr. Incredible from ‘The Incredibles’.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were Caspar and Melchior your traveling companions?
> 
> Was your body double in your last film the director’s wife’s chiropractor?
> 
> Were you a multi-instrumentalist that died shortly after being kicked out of the band you founded?

No, I’m not **Balthazar**.

No, I’m not **Bela Lugosi**.

I know I’m going to kick myself thoroughly, but I have nothing. DQ.

> [@](#):
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> DQs:
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> Real?  
> American?

No, and No.

Summary

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American

Outstanding DQs -  
2 to **Elendil’s Heir**  
1 to **ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness**

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/33 "2013-01-11T00:16:46Z")

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IQs:

Did you and your sons have a large ranch near Virginia City NV?  
Did you jump off the Tallahatchie Bridge?  
Did you and your best friend share a house in Frostbite Falls MN?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/34 "2013-01-11T01:37:47Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Were you a multi-instrumentalist that died shortly after being kicked out of the band you founded?

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> I know I’m going to kick myself thoroughly, but I have nothing. DQ.

Brian Jones, founder and namer of The Rolling Stones.

DQ: Did you first appear in a prose work, i.e. a novel or short story?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/35 "2013-01-11T01:54:21Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were your nicknames “Spoons” and “Beast”?  
> Did a young Helen Mirren once play your girlfriend?  
> Did you tell a customer how to overcome your employer’s defenses?

> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> Hmm. I dunno - DQ.  
> I think that’s a reference to ‘The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover’, but I can’t remember the name of Michael Gambon’s character, nor the name of the lover nor the actor who played him. - DQ  
> No, I’m not **Bob Parr** , Mr. Incredible from ‘The Incredibles’…

The first is Gen. Benjamin Butler, military governor of New Orleans during the Civil War. He got the first nickname for allegedly taking silverware from the fancy homes which he’d choose as his headquarters; he got the second for ordering the women of the city to either stop bothering his soldiers or be treated as prostitutes.  
Mirren wasn’t that young at the time of _The Cook, The Thief…_ I was thinking of Bob Hoskins in _The Long Good Friday_, about a decade earlier.  
Yes, Bob Parr from _The Incredibles_.

DQs:

Would your character, if real, be alive today?  
British?

IQs:

Were you named by your creator after a noted ornithologist?  
Did you once play a cutthroat character who liked to play with rubber bands?  
Did you, while invisible, brush your mother’s hair?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/36 "2013-01-11T16:19:39Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Were you named by your creator after a noted ornithologist?  
> Did you once play a cutthroat character who liked to play with rubber bands?  
> Did you, while invisible, brush your mother’s hair?

Stumped, stumped and stumped - that’s 3 DQs for you.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you and your sons have a large ranch near Virginia City NV?  
> Did you jump off the Tallahatchie Bridge?  
> Did you and your best friend share a house in Frostbite Falls MN?

No, I’m not Ben Cartwright of the ‘Ponderosa’ ranch.  
Stumped  
Stumped - that’s 2 DQs for you.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> DQ: Did you first appear in a prose work, i.e. a novel or short story?

Yes.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQs:
> 
> Would your character, if real, be alive today?  
> British?

No.  
Yes.

Summary

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. First appeared in a work of prose.
5. If this character were real, he would not be alive today.
6. British

Outstanding DQs -

3 to **Elendil’s Heir**  
2 to **SCAdian**

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/37 "2013-01-11T19:49:22Z")

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Do you have electric boots and a mohair suit?  
Are your son and ex-husband in a band together?  
Were you the first major classical composer to record yourself playing one of your own compositions?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/38 "2013-01-11T19:55:16Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …IQs:
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> Were you named by your creator after a noted ornithologist?  
> Did you once play a cutthroat character who liked to play with rubber bands?  
> Did you, while invisible, brush your mother’s hair?

James Bond  
Bob Balaban, in _Absence of Malice_  
David Bowman, in _2010: Odyssey Two_

DQs:

First appeared in a novel?  
First appeared before 1900?  
Last name starts with B?

IQs:

Did a castmember of an _SNL_-type show object to your appearance on it?  
Did you run a rustic Vermont inn?  
Are you the wife and occasional costar of a prominent comic actor?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/39 "2013-01-11T20:14:25Z")

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IQ: Are you a character from an old British legend?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2013/646391/40 "2013-01-11T20:18:58Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Do you have electric boots and a mohair suit?  
> Are your son and ex-husband in a band together?  
> Were you the first major classical composer to record yourself playing one of your own compositions?

No, I’m not **Bennie** of Bennie and the Jets.  
Stumped.  
Hmm, I’d always thought that was Sergei Rachmanninoff. Earlier than that, and with a ‘B’? Could it be **Anton Bruckner**?

That’s at least one DQ for you.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Did a castmember of an _SNL_-type show object to your appearance on it?  
> Did you run a rustic Vermont inn?  
> Are you the wife and occasional costar of a prominent comic actor?

Stumped.  
No, I’m not Bob Newhart  
Stumped. 2 DQs for you.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> DQs:
> 
> First appeared in a novel?  
> First appeared before 1900?  
> Last name starts with B?

No.  
No.  
No.

Summary

1. Male
2. Fictional
3. Not American
4. First appeared in a work of prose.
5. If this character were real, he would not be alive today.
6. British
7. Did not first appear in a novel.
8. Did not appear before 1900
9. Last name does not start with a ‘B’

Outstanding DQs -

1 (at least) to **ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness**  
2 to **Elendil’s Heir**

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