# Botticelli - January 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 5, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055 "2015-01-05T19:40:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/141 "2015-01-15T15:50:18Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you write that a government’s right to rule must be based on the consent of its people in _The two treatises of the government_?  
> IQ2: Are you a Norse explorer who made the first European journey to North America?  
> IQ3: Did you develop cures for rabies, anthrax and other infectious diseases in the 19th century?

Not John Locke, Leif Ericsson or Louis Pasteur

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/142 "2015-01-15T16:24:15Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you have two brothers with the same name?  
> IQ2: Were you le roi soliel?  
> IQ3: Were you an archaeologist who was killed in a motorctcle accident?

> [@astorian](#):
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> Not Louis XIV or Louis Leakey
> 
> Take a DQ for #1

“Hi, I’m Larry; this is my brother Darryl, and this is my other brother Darryl.”  
Correct.  
T E Lawrence, aka Lawrence of Arabia. (Leakey was a palaeoanthropologist and died of a heart attack.)  
DQ: German?  
One DQ reserved.  
IQ1: Were you a Swiss mathematician?  
IQ2: Were you the Man of a Thousand Faces?  
IQ3: Did your brother sing “I’m Gonna Hire a Wino to Decorate Our Home”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/143 "2015-01-15T16:32:45Z")

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DQ: Known as a scientist?

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/144 "2015-01-15T16:58:09Z")

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SUMMARY

1. Real person
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Not American
5. First name starts with L
6. Died before 1950
7. European
8. Not involved in the arts
9. Born before 1800
10. Born after 1500
11. Spoke a Germanic language
12. Not known as a royal, military or political figure
13. Not British
14. Can’t say if he was a “good” guy, but is regarded as a great man and definitely not viewed as a villain
15. Known for work in science
16. Not born in Germany, but lived and worked for many years in Germany

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/145 "2015-01-15T17:01:39Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> "  
> IQ1: Were you a Swiss mathematician?

YESSSSSS! I am LEONHARD EULER, Swiss-born mathematician, philosopher and physicist.

Congrats, SCAdian!

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/146 "2015-01-15T20:37:29Z")

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Wow! I know of Euler, but didn’t know his first name. Good job, SCAdian!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/147 "2015-01-15T21:10:50Z")

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The name vaguely rings a bell. Congrats, **SCAdian**!

Previous IQs:

Were you one of the Lincoln conspirators who was hanged? - Yes, the bad Lewis Powell  
Were you a Nixon appointee to SCOTUS? - Yes, the much better Lewis Powell  
Did your best-known colleague get a promotion almost 200 years later? - Meriwether Lewis’s colleague William Clark was promoted to captain in the U.S. Army by President Clinton three days before leaving office.

[http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Wed\_Jan\_17\_101131\_2001.html](http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Wed_Jan_17_101131_2001.html)

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/148 "2015-01-15T21:49:50Z")

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I wasn’t sure if he was born in the right period, but he was the only non-British, non-royal European ‘L’ I could think of. 🙂  
I am **R**.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/149 "2015-01-15T22:09:07Z")

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IQ1) Were you the only “member” of Pink Floyd to make a profit on the 1982 \*\*\*The Wall \*\*\*tour?

IQ2) Is there an 8 foot bronze statue of you at New York City’s Port Authority bu terminal?

IQ3) Are you a former opthalmologist played by Vanessa Redgrave in a made-for TV movie?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/150 "2015-01-15T22:17:11Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you a very early Hanna-Barbara cat?
2. Are you Dick Clark’s New Year’s Eve successor?
3. Were you DC comics’ copycat attempt at Marvel’s the Vision?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/151 "2015-01-15T23:01:13Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> IQ1) Were you the only “member” of Pink Floyd to make a profit on the 1982 \*\*\*The Wall \*\*\*tour?
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> IQ2) Is there an 8 foot bronze statue of you at New York City’s Port Authority bu terminal?
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> IQ3) Are you a former opthalmologist played by Vanessa Redgrave in a made-for TV movie?

Three DQs.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a very early Hanna-Barbara cat?
> 2. Are you Dick Clark’s New Year’s Eve successor?
> 3. Were you DC comics’ copycat attempt at Marvel’s the Vision?

Three for you, too.  
Well, we’re certainly off to a fine start here…

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/152 "2015-01-15T23:23:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you a very early Hanna-Barbara cat?
> 2. Are you Dick Clark’s New Year’s Eve successor?
> 3. Were you DC comics’ copycat attempt at Marvel’s the Vision?  
> Three for you, too.

#1 was Ruff (of Ruff & Reddy).  
#2 is Ryan Sechrist.  
#3 was the Red Tornado.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?
3. Last name starts with R?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/153 "2015-01-15T23:36:00Z")

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Don’t believe I ever watched Ruff & Reddy - I was under the impression they were both dogs.  
**R**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Last name starts with R

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/154 "2015-01-15T23:39:50Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you aka Mr. Fantastic?
2. Were you so evil that not only the Indians wouldn’t raise you, the wolves wouldn’t either?
3. Are you a fashion doll from Willows, Wisconsin, whose parents are George and Margaret?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/155 "2015-01-16T00:53:35Z")

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IQ1: Did you and your wife apply for refugee status in Canada because you thought the “Hollywood star whackers” were after you?  
IQ2: Did you have a hit with “Short People” in 1977?  
IQ3: Are you a MLB pitcher nicknamed “The Big Unit”?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/156 "2015-01-16T01:13:00Z")

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IQs:

Did you pretend to call your famous dad in a TV commercial?  
Were you that dad?  
Were you that dad’s wife?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/157 "2015-01-16T03:44:53Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you aka Mr. Fantastic?
> 2. Were you so evil that not only the Indians wouldn’t raise you, the wolves wouldn’t either?
> 3. Are you a fashion doll from Willows, Wisconsin, whose parents are George and Margaret?

Not Reed Richards.  
Not … Raven?  
DQ.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Did you and your wife apply for refugee status in Canada because you thought the “Hollywood star whackers” were after you?  
> IQ2: Did you have a hit with “Short People” in 1977?  
> IQ3: Are you a MLB pitcher nicknamed “The Big Unit”?

Three DQs.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you pretend to call your famous dad in a TV commercial?  
> Were you that dad?  
> Were you that dad’s wife?

And three DQs for you, too. (Is that everybody now?)

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**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/158 "2015-01-16T05:29:36Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:  
> 3) Were you DC comics’ copycat attempt at Marvel’s the Vision?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> #3 was the Red Tornado.

Huh? How exactly could Red Tornado be a copy of the Vision? Did Gardner Fox use a time machine? 🙂

Silver age Red Tornado appeared in JLA #64 (Aug 1968), months **before** silver age Vision premiered in Avengers #57 (Oct 1968).

(Golden age Vision appeared in Nov 1940, the same month that Ma Hunkel first appeared as the Red Tornado… but that was published by Timely rather than Marvel so that wouldn’t work for this question phrasing, and those characters are not particularly similar.)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/159 "2015-01-16T14:02:19Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you aka Mr. Fantastic?
> 2. Were you so evil that not only the Indians wouldn’t raise you, the wolves wouldn’t either?
> 3. Are you a fashion doll from Willows, Wisconsin, whose parents are George and Margaret?
> 
> Not Reed Richards.  
> Not … Raven?  
> DQ.

Correct on Reed.  
#2 was Evil Roy Slade (as portrayed by John Astin in a TV movie)  
#3 is Barbie Millicent Roberts, better known as just “Barbie”.

DQs:

1. Best known from a movie?
2. Protagonist?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2015/709055/160 "2015-01-16T14:09:50Z")

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Oops! Fact-checking indicates that my memory was faulty. (I probably read the Avengers comic before I read the JLA one). The Red Tornado did indeed marginally precede the Vision. So, withdraw my 2nd DQ above, please.

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