# Botticelli - January 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 4, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285 "2017-01-04T00:38:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/61 "2017-01-11T22:33:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Native American? > Best known for a single battle? Yes. No. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > IQs: > > Were you not really an insane equine? > Did you most famously play a Georgia house slave? > Was your adorable mutt named Ribsy? Yes! I am Oglala war leader Tȟašúŋke Witkó, known in English as Crazy **H** orse. (No idea who your #2 was, but I’m obviously not Henry Huggins.) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/62 "2017-01-12T00:54:48Z")
Well done, EH! ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/63 "2017-01-12T13:30:55Z")
I found answering DQ5 (American?) to be difficult. By house rules “American” means “from the US.” Crazy Horse was born in western South Dakota, which at the time was part of the Nebraska Territory and therefore US land, but on the other hand he was an enemy of the US. I considered saying “American, but not American,” or “American (sort of),” but I figured those answers might cause even greater confusion than just saying “American.” EH’s first DQ and first IQ after I said to think outside the box were both on track, so I think it’s obvious that he understood what I meant. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/64 "2017-01-12T17:19:29Z")
Indeed I did, and thanks, **SCAdian**! Good one. You may be interested to know he got a starship named after him: [USS Crazy Horse | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Crazy_Horse) Our house rule, as I understand it, has long been that Native Americans are “American” for purposes of this game, as are naturalized citizens. There were no famous pre-1492 individuals on the continent that I’m aware of, so that hasn’t been an issue. If the post-1776 DQ is “U.S. citizen?,” it gets a little more complicated. I’ve updated the “letters we’ve used for far” list: [Botticelli - the letters we've used so far - Thread Games - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=648663) Aaaaaand our next letter is M ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/65 "2017-01-12T19:45:58Z")
Thankee for the update. I do use it. IQs: 1. Were you called “The Commerce Comet”? 2. Were you called “The Say Hey Kid”? 3. Were you played in movies by Ioan Gruffudd and Miles Teller? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/66 "2017-01-12T20:29:34Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > … > > IQs: > > 1. Were you called “The Commerce Comet”? > 2. Were you called “The Say Hey Kid”? > 3. Were you played in movies by Ioan Gruffudd and Miles Teller? Dunno, not Willie Mays, and dunno. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/67 "2017-01-12T21:03:27Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Thankee for the update. I do use it. > > IQs: > > 1. Were you called “The Commerce Comet”? > 2. Were you called “The Say Hey Kid”? > 3. Were you played in movies by Ioan Gruffudd and Miles Teller? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dunno, not Willie Mays, and dunno. #1 was Mickey Mantle. #2 is correct. #3 is Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic, in the two Fantastic Four movie series. DQs: 1. Real? 2. Male? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/68 "2017-01-12T22:52:19Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > There were no famous pre-1492 individuals on the continent that I’m aware of, so that hasn’t been an issue. Yeah – I don’t think that many people would know who Smoke Jaguar, 18 Rabbit, and Pakal the Great were… ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/69 "2017-01-12T23:31:55Z")
IQ1: Were you the emperor of Mexico in the mid-1800s? IQ2: Were you Lothar’s brother and Wolfram’s distant cousin? IQ3: Did you have a servant/friend named Lothar who wore a fez, shorts and a leopard skin? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/70 "2017-01-13T03:40:35Z")
IQs: 1. Did you write of Elric of Melnibone? 2. Did you write _Now We Are Six_? 3. Did you write _When I Consider How My Light Is Spent_? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/71 "2017-01-13T04:39:11Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > …#3 is Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic, in the two Fantastic Four movie series… “Mr.” isn’t really a name, is it? It’s a title or prefix. > [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Were you the emperor of Mexico in the mid-1800s? > IQ2: Were you Lothar’s brother and Wolfram’s distant cousin? > IQ3: Did you have a servant/friend named Lothar who wore a fez, shorts and a leopard skin? Not Maximilian, Manfred or Mandrake (guessing on those last two). > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > IQs: > > 1. Did you write of Elric of Melnibone? > 2. Did you write _Now We Are Six_? > 3. Did you write _When I Consider How My Light Is Spent_? Not Michael Moorcock, A.A. Milne, or… dunno. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/72 "2017-01-13T11:59:46Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > IQ1: Were you the emperor of Mexico in the mid-1800s? > IQ2: Were you Lothar’s brother and Wolfram’s distant cousin? > IQ3: Did you have a servant/friend named Lothar who wore a fez, shorts and a leopard skin? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Not Maximilian, Manfred or Mandrake (guessing on those last two). Correct on all three. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/73 "2017-01-13T12:47:19Z")
> [@](#): > > …#3 is Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic, in the two Fantastic Four movie series… > “Mr.” isn’t really a name, is it? It’s a title or prefix. > > Quote: > Originally Posted by SCAdian View Post > IQ1: Were you the emperor of Mexico in the mid-1800s? > IQ2: Were you Lothar’s brother and Wolfram’s distant cousin? > IQ3: Did you have a servant/friend named Lothar who wore a fez, shorts and a leopard skin? > Not Maximilian, Manfred or Mandrake (guessing on those last two). > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle View Post > IQs: > > 1. Did you write of Elric of Melnibone? > 2. Did you write Now We Are Six? > 3. Did you write When I Consider How My Light Is Spent? > Not Michael Moorcock, A.A. Milne, or… dunno. re: Mr. Fantastic: each and every comic book index and webpage puts Mr. Fantastic in the M’s along with Mr. Terrific and Mr. E, and Dr. Fate and other doctors appear in the D’s. Correct on Moorcock and Milne. #3 was John Milton. 1 DQ reserved. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/74 "2017-01-13T16:51:46Z")
I am thus persuaded. M. 1. fictional 2. female ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/75 "2017-01-14T02:20:02Z")
DQ: Created by Americans? IQs: 1. Did Peter Lorre play you in a series of movies? 2. Did you have a hit with _I Can’t Smile Without You_? 3. Did you have a hit with _Sleeping Single In A Double Bed_? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/76 "2017-01-14T05:28:23Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > …IQs: > > 1. Did Peter Lorre play you in a series of movies? > 2. Did you have a hit with _I Can’t Smile Without You_? > 3. Did you have a hit with _Sleeping Single In A Double Bed_? Not Mr. Moto, Barry Manilow or… Barbara Mandrell? M. 1. fictional 2. female 3. created by Americans ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/77 "2017-01-14T14:26:32Z")
Correct x3. IQs: 1. Did you write the songs for _The Music Man_? 2. Are you the only actor to appear in all of the _Tremors_ series of movies? 3. Did you play #2’s wife in a sitcom, playing the Keatons? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/78 "2017-01-14T16:18:39Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > … > > IQs: > > 1. Did you write the songs for _The Music Man_? > 2. Are you the only actor to appear in all of the _Tremors_ series of movies? > 3. Did you play #2’s wife in a sitcom, playing the Keatons? Not Meredith Wilson, Michael LNU or Meredith Baxter-Birney (or whoever she was at the time). ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/79 "2017-01-14T16:52:59Z")
Correct x3. Michael Gross was #2. IQs: 1. Are you Trump’s candidate for Secretary of the Treasury? 2. Are you Trump’s candidate for Secretary of Defense? 3. Are you the present Secretary of Energy? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2017/776285/80 "2017-01-14T20:42:23Z")
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