# Botticelli - January 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 1, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706 "2018-01-01T20:34:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/321 "2018-01-29T17:20:13Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Hmmm, are you Leopold Stokowski?

I am not.

> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> I hope PP won’t mind me saying that I think people are misinterpreting the answer to DQ 15. If I am right with my unrevealed guess, it means the person was born outside the UK but later became a naturalised British citizen, not that he was UK-born but then became a naturalised American (or indeed any other nationality).

You are correct in your interpretation. You also have the only remaining guess left.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/322 "2018-01-29T17:31:35Z")

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OK, thanks - in that case, you are Sir Georg Solti.

I have to say you are very generous in your answers - I didn’t expect you to clarify my last DQ by confirming you were not a singer (I was merely looking to ensure a singer was included for a “yes” answer, or excluded for “no”, to avoid ambiguity), and strictly speaking you didn’t have to reveal you were a conductor. Likewise the part about being a naturalised Briton. It was those key clues that got me there in the end. Nice game, thanks.

I’ve just realised I’m going to look really foolish now if my guess is wrong, but never mind.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/323 "2018-01-29T19:11:57Z")

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I am indeed Georg Solti, winner of the most Grammy Awards of any one person of all time (31).

Another great job, DC!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/324 "2018-01-29T20:52:29Z")

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Way to go, **DC**!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/325 "2018-01-29T20:59:36Z")

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Grats DC!

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/326 "2018-01-30T06:35:05Z")

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Thanks all. It must be time for a spot of T.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/327 "2018-01-30T12:59:55Z")

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IQ1: Does Katey Sagal voice you in _Futurama_?  
IQ2: Were you the lead actor of the Disney flop _John Carter of Mars_?  
IQ3: Are you the actor who played the 4th incarnation of Doctor Who?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/328 "2018-01-30T14:06:53Z")

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IQs:

1. Did you do the original illustrations for Lewis Carroll’s _Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland_?
2. Were you an American child actress who grew up to become the U.S. Ambassador to Czechoslovakia?
3. Are you aka the Saint?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/329 "2018-01-30T14:32:20Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Does Katey Sagal voice you in _Futurama_?  
> IQ2: Were you the lead actor of the Disney flop _John Carter of Mars_?  
> IQ3: Are you the actor who played the 4th incarnation of Doctor Who?

1. Not… Tara? I don’t think I have that right, take a DQ if so.
2. No idea, take a DQ.
3. Not Tom Baker, but if I have the wrong incarnation, take another DQ.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/330 "2018-01-30T14:34:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you do the original illustrations for Lewis Carroll’s _Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland_?
> 2. Were you an American child actress who grew up to become the U.S. Ambassador to Czechoslovakia?
> 3. Are you aka the Saint?

1. I know this, but it’s not coming to mind. Take a DQ.
2. Take a DQ. Sounds like a cool story!
3. Not Simon Templar.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/331 "2018-01-30T15:03:46Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Did you do the original illustrations for Lewis Carroll’s _Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland_?
> 2. Were you an American child actress who grew up to become the U.S. Ambassador to Czechoslovakia?
> 3. Are you aka the Saint?

> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> 1. I know this, but it’s not coming to mind. Take a DQ.
> 2. Take a DQ. Sounds like a cool story!
> 3. Not Simon Templar.

#1 was John Tenniel.  
#2 was Shirley Temple, later Shirley Temple Black.  
Correct on Simon.

DQs:

1. Real?
2. Male?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/332 "2018-01-30T15:05:15Z")

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Interesting, thanks. Yes to both DQs.

1. Real
2. Male

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/333 "2018-01-30T16:20:41Z")

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Quotes from Wikipedia:

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> Temple got her start in foreign service after her failed run for Congress in 1967 when Henry Kissinger overheard her talking about South West Africa at a party. He was surprised that she knew anything about it.[89] She was appointed as a delegate to the 24th United Nations General Assembly (September – December 1969) by President Richard M. Nixon[90][91][92] and United States Ambassador to Ghana (December 6, 1974 – July 13, 1976) by President Gerald R. Ford.[93] She was appointed first female Chief of Protocol of the United States (July 1, 1976 – January 21, 1977) and in charge of arrangements for President Jimmy Carter’s inauguration and inaugural ball.[93][94]
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> She served as the United States Ambassador to Czechoslovakia (August 23, 1989 – July 12, 1992), having been appointed by President George H. W. Bush.[69] She was the first and only female US ambassador to the former Czechoslovakia. Temple was a witness to two crucial moments in the history of Czechoslovakia’s fight against communism. She was in Prague in August 1968, as a representative of the International Federation of Multiple Sclerosis Societies and going to meet with Czechoslovakian party leader Alexander Dubček on the very day that Soviet-backed forces invaded the country. Dubček fell out of favor with the Soviets after a series of reforms known as the Prague Spring. Temple, who was stranded at a hotel as the tanks rolled in, sought refuge on the roof of the hotel. She later reported that it was from here she saw an unarmed woman on the street gunned down by Soviet forces, a sight that stayed with her for the rest of her life.[95] Later, after she became ambassador to Czechoslovakia, she was present in the Velvet Revolution, which brought about the end of communism in Czechoslovakia. Temple played a critical role in hastening the end of the communist regime by openly sympathizing with anti-communist dissidents and later establishing formal diplomatic relations with the newly elected government led by Václav Havel. She took the unusual step of personally accompanying Havel on his first official visit to Washington, travelling on the same plane.[96]

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/334 "2018-01-30T16:54:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Does Katey Sagal voice you in Futurama?  
> IQ2: Were you the lead actor of the Disney flop John Carter of Mars?  
> IQ3: Are you the actor who played the 4th incarnation of Doctor Who?
> 
> 1. Not… Tara? I don’t think I have that right, take a DQ if so.
> 2. No idea, take a DQ.
> 3. Not Tom Baker, but if I have the wrong incarnation, take another DQ.

Turanga Leela, Taylor Kitsch, correct

DQ: Alive?  
DQ: Last name start with T?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/335 "2018-01-30T16:57:22Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the actor who played the 10th incarnation of Doctor Who?
2. Were you a gap-toothed English character actor of the 1960’s?
3. Did you paint _The Circle of the Rue Royale_?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/336 "2018-01-30T16:58:30Z")

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IQ1: Are you a co-founder of Heritage USA noted for excessive cosmetics?  
IQ2: Were you married to Richard Burton twice out of eight total marriages?  
IQ3: Do you front a rock band named after you and The Destroyers?

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/337 "2018-01-30T18:09:56Z")

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1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with T

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the actor who played the 10th incarnation of Doctor Who?
> 2. Were you a gap-toothed English character actor of the 1960’s?
> 3. Did you paint _The Circle of the Rue Royale_?

1. Not David Tennant
2. Not Terry Thomas (wild guess - wasn’t he a ‘cad’ sort of character, rather than gap-toothed?).
3. Not… Titian? My art knowledge is dreadful, I’m afraid. Please take DQs as appropriate.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a co-founder of Heritage USA noted for excessive cosmetics?  
> IQ2: Were you married to Richard Burton twice out of eight total marriages?  
> IQ3: Do you front a rock band named after you and The Destroyers?

1. Hmm, excessive cosmetics - I’m not Zsa Zsa Gabor, but I can’t think of who this really is. Take a DQ.
2. Not Elizabeth “I’ve only slept with men I’ve married” Taylor.
3. Take another DQ.

Batting a solid 0.333 so far :).

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/338 "2018-01-30T18:47:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a co-founder of Heritage USA noted for excessive cosmetics?  
> IQ2: Were you married to Richard Burton twice out of eight total marriages?  
> IQ3: Do you front a rock band named after you and The Destroyers?
> 
> 1. Hmm, excessive cosmetics - I’m not Zsa Zsa Gabor, but I can’t think of who this really is. Take a DQ.
> 2. Not Elizabeth “I’ve only slept with men I’ve married” Taylor.
> 3. Take another DQ.

Tammy Faye Bakker, correct, George Thorogood

We can’t always make them Euro-centric, but we try. 🙂

DQ: European?  
DQ: Died before 1900?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/339 "2018-01-30T18:49:01Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the actor who played the 10th incarnation of Doctor Who?
2. Were you a gap-toothed English character actor of the 1960’s?
3. Did you paint The Circle of the Rue Royale?

1. Not David Tennant
2. Not Terry Thomas (wild guess - wasn’t he a ‘cad’ sort of character, rather than gap-toothed?).
3. Not… Titian? My art knowledge is dreadful, I’m afraid. Please take DQs as appropriate.

Correct on 1 and 2. Terry-Thomas usually played a cad, but he did have a small gap between his two front teeth.

#3 is James Tissot.

1 DQ reserved.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2018/805706/340 "2018-01-30T18:58:22Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
>
> Tammy Faye Bakker, correct, George Thorogood
> 
> We can’t always make them Euro-centric, but we try. 🙂
> 
> DQ: European?  
> DQ: Died before 1900?

You’re very kind. I also try to avoid characters famous in Britain but not in the US when formulating my own IQs. Makes for a better game all round.

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Last name starts with T
5. European by birth
6. Died after 1900

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