# Botticelli - January 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 2, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514 "2024-01-02T20:22:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/181 "2024-01-22T18:51:32Z")

</div>

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> Did you say, “I would rather be right than be President”?  
> Were you the young criminal mastermind behind “The Red-Headed League”?  
> Did Tommy Lee Jones play you in _JFK_?

#1. I am not Henry Clay.  
Take 2 DQs.

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a bandleader who starred in a comic movie called _Hi-De-Ho_?
> 2. Did a co-star call you an “ignorant slut” and attribute your ignorance to the inability to achieve orgasm?
> 3. Were you an Irish monk who evangelized western Scotland, founded a hugely important monastery, and, according to legend, encountered the Loch Ness Monster?

1. I am not Cab Calloway.
2. I am not Jane Curtin.
3. Take a DQ.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/182 "2024-01-22T20:45:30Z")

</div>

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > Did you say, “I would rather be right than be President”?  
> > Were you the young criminal mastermind behind “The Red-Headed League”?  
> > Did Tommy Lee Jones play you in _JFK_?
> 
> #1. I am not Henry Clay.  
> Take 2 DQs.
> 
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you a bandleader who starred in a comic movie called _Hi-De-Ho_?
> > 2. Did a co-star call you an “ignorant slut” and attribute your ignorance to the inability to achieve orgasm?
> > 3. Were you an Irish monk who evangelized western Scotland, founded a hugely important monastery, and, according to legend, encountered the Loch Ness Monster?
> 
> 1. I am not Cab Calloway.
> 2. I am not Jane Curtin.
> 3. Take a DQ

Correct, correct. 3 was Saint Columba.

DQ: Canadian?

IQs:

1. Were you a 19th c. American painter, known for your paintings of mothers and children?

2. Are you a fictional Beard Award-winning chef who inherits his brother’s Italian beef restaurant in Chicago?

3. Were you an Italian mafioso who adopted an Irish surname and became notorious during the Kefauver hearings?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/183 "2024-01-22T21:53:28Z")

</div>

IQs:

1. Did your character complain about being chased by Guido the Killer Pimp in _Risky Business_?

2. Did you have a Mobile Infantry training camp named after you in _Starship Troopers_?

3. Were you the father of both of the fourth pair of brothers in major league history to form a double-play combo?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/184 "2024-01-23T03:23:47Z")

</div>

DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died since 1950
5. American, but not a citizen of the U.S.A.
6. Political/military
7. Not Canadian

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/185 "2024-01-23T03:24:17Z")

</div>

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Were you a 19th c. American painter, known for your paintings of mothers and children?
> 2. Are you a fictional Beard Award-winning chef who inherits his brother’s Italian beef restaurant in Chicago?
> 3. Were you an Italian mafioso who adopted an Irish surname and became notorious during the Kefauver hearings?

#1. I am not Mary Cassatt.  
Take 2 DQs.

> [@SunUp](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did your character complain about being chased by Guido the Killer Pimp in _Risky Business_?
> 2. Did you have a Mobile Infantry training camp named after you in _Starship Troopers_?
> 3. Were you the father of both of the fourth pair of brothers in major league history to form a double-play combo?

Take 3 DQs.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/186 "2024-01-23T04:00:53Z")

</div>

1. Were you Diana Canova’s character on **Soap**?

2. Did you play Mary Campbell on **Soap**?

3. Were you Robert Mandan’s character on **Soap**?

DQ:  
Caucasian?

One DQ held.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/187 "2024-01-23T16:27:58Z")

</div>

DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died since 1950
5. American, but not a citizen of the U.S.A.
6. Political/military
7. Not Canadian
8. Latin-American, which would have been considered Caucasian when I was younger (e.g., Desi Arnaz, Charo) but now is doubted as such by many

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/188 "2024-01-23T16:28:43Z")

</div>

> [@kitap](#):
>
> - Were you Diana Canova’s character on **Soap**?
> - Did you play Mary Campbell on **Soap**?
> - Were you Robert Mandan’s character on **Soap**?

Been too long. Take 3 DQs.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/189 "2024-01-23T17:19:15Z")

</div>

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Were you a 19th c. American painter, known for your paintings of mothers and children?
> > 2. Are you a fictional Beard Award-winning chef who inherits his brother’s Italian beef restaurant in Chicago?
> > 3. Were you an Italian mafioso who adopted an Irish surname and became notorious during the Kefauver hearings?
> 
> #1. I am not Mary Cassatt.  
> Take 2 DQs.

Correct on 1. 2 is Carmen “Carmy” Berzatto, from the Hulu series _The Bear_. 3 was Francesco Castiglia, who adopted the alias “Frank Costello”.

DQs:

1. Cuban?
2. Leader of his country?

IQs:

1. Did you play a fashion photographer in _Just Shoot Me_ and the leader of a hapless group of aliens in _Galaxy Quest_?

2. Are you a professional poker player who’s also a noted public intellectual, hosting the British show _Only Connect_, as well as frequently appearing on _QI_?

3. Did the C.I.A. attempt to assassinate or embarrass you many times in the 60s, including one attempt to poison you with a powder that would cause your beard to fall out?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/190 "2024-01-23T17:30:40Z")

</div>

DQs:

1. Real
2. Male
3. Dead
4. Died since 1950
5. American, but not a citizen of the U.S.A.
6. Political/military
7. Not Canadian
8. Latin-American, which would have been considered Caucasian when I was younger (e.g., Desi Arnaz, Charo) but now is doubted as such by many
9. Naturalized Cuban citizenship
10. Not the leader of his country

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/191 "2024-01-23T17:31:20Z")

</div>

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> IQs:
> 
> 1. Did you play a fashion photographer in _Just Shoot Me_ and the leader of a hapless group of aliens in _Galaxy Quest_?
> 2. Are you a professional poker player who’s also a noted public intellectual, hosting the British show _Only Connect_, as well as frequently appearing on _QI_?
> 3. Did the C.I.A. attempt to assassinate or embarrass you many times in the 60s, including one attempt to poison you with a powder that would cause your beard to fall out?

#3. I am not Fidel Castro.  
Take 2 DQs.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/192 "2024-01-23T17:54:36Z")

</div>

> [@kitap](#):
>
> 1. Were you Diana Canova’s character on **Soap**?
> 
> 2. Did you play Mary Campbell on **Soap**?
> 
> 3. Were you Robert Mandan’s character on **Soap**?

Corinne Tate, Cathryn Damon, Chester Tate.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/193 "2024-01-23T17:54:39Z")

</div>

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> > [@SunUp](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did your character complain about being chased by Guido the Killer Pimp in _Risky Business_?
> > 2. Did you have a Mobile Infantry training camp named after you in _Starship Troopers_?
> > 3. Were you the father of both of the fourth pair of brothers in major league history to form a double-play combo?
> 
> Take 3 DQs.

#1 is Curtis Armstrong, #2 General Arthur Currie, #3 Cal Ripken Sr.

DQ1: Better known by a nickname?

2 DQs reserved.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/194 "2024-01-23T18:50:02Z")

</div>

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
>
> > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
> >
> > IQs:
> > 
> > 1. Did you play a fashion photographer in _Just Shoot Me_ and the leader of a hapless group of aliens in _Galaxy Quest_?
> > 2. Are you a professional poker player who’s also a noted public intellectual, hosting the British show _Only Connect_, as well as frequently appearing on _QI_?
> > 3. Did the C.I.A. attempt to assassinate or embarrass you many times in the 60s, including one attempt to poison you with a powder that would cause your beard to fall out?
> 
> #3. I am not Fidel Castro.  
> Take 2 DQs.

1 was Enrico Colantoni. 2 was Victoria Coren Mitchell. Correct on 3.

DQs:

1. Last name starts with “C”?

2. Communist?

IQs:

1. Are you a young woman raised by a corrupt pair of innkeepers, then adopted by a reformed thief?

2. Were you King Henry VIII’s fourth wife, whose marriage to the King was never consummated, leading to an annulment?

3. Are you a firebrand Argentinian revolutionary whose beret-clad image is a very popular symbol of rebellion and counterculture, adorning millions of T-shirts?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/195 "2024-01-23T19:48:30Z")

</div>

> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
>
> Are you a firebrand Argentinian revolutionary whose beret-clad image is a very popular symbol of rebellion and counterculture, adorning millions of T-shirts?

Quick work from **Slow Moving Vehicle!**

Si, soy yo **Che Guevara**!..

[![](https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.3xyvxNBuDuXEc9wYIbMv7gHaEK?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain) ](https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.3xyvxNBuDuXEc9wYIbMv7gHaEK?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain)

Nicely done.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/196 "2024-01-23T21:50:04Z")

</div>

_Que bueno!_ One of my favorite T-shirts:

> **[Viva La Evolucion](https://www.bustedtees.com/products/vivalaevolucion?variant=31740983410785)**
>
> You're going to look awesome in your new BustedTees gear! With a stylish fit you can feel and a custom design you can be proud of. It's the perfect addition to your already great style. Treat yourself for once! You deserve this.If you need...

Previous IQs:

Did you say, “I would rather be right than be President”? - Yes, Henry Clay, Whig of Kentucky  
Were you the young criminal mastermind behind “The Red-Headed League”? - John Clay, in the Sherlock Holmes story  
Did Tommy Lee Jones play you in _JFK_? - Clay Shaw

Clay x3!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/197 "2024-01-23T22:23:52Z")

</div>

Thank you! I thought I had it with Castro, but @SunUp’s DQ about nicknames gave me the clue.

To close out my other two IQs, 1 was Cosette, from _Les Miserables_. 2 was Anne of Cleves.

So, on to the next round.

I am **H!**

Incidentally, I’ve also updated the “Letters Used” thread, as well.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/198 "2024-01-23T23:12:11Z")

</div>

Ah, circled in on it but didn’t quite pull the trigger. Good work, @Slow_Moving_Vehicle !

DQ1: Did you attempt to assassinate General Edwin Walker?  
DQ2: Did you own a chain of restaurants and hotels associated with southwestern railroads?  
DQ3: Was your character often referred to by the name of the inventor of spread-spectrum radio transmission for communication security?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/199 "2024-01-24T00:08:21Z")

</div>

H it is.

IQs:

Were you Lincoln’s 1860 running mate?  
Did Sinatra say to you, “Hands off the threads, creep”?  
Were you FDR’s cadaverous aide in 1945?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514/200 "2024-01-24T00:14:27Z")

</div>

> [@SunUp](#):
>
> DQ1: Did you attempt to assassinate General Edwin Walker?  
> DQ2: Did you own a chain of restaurants and hotels associated with southwestern railroads?  
> DQ3: Was your character often referred to by the name of the inventor of spread-spectrum radio transmission for communication security?

Take 3 DQs. The Edwin Walker one is right on the tip of my tongue, though.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
>
> Were you Lincoln’s 1860 running mate?  
> Did Sinatra say to you, “Hands off the threads, creep”?  
> Were you FDR’s cadaverous aide in 1945?

1. I am not Hannibal Hamlin.
2. Take a DQ, but it’s probably someone whose initials are “H.H.”, since…
3. I am not Harry Hopkins.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514.md?page=9)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/botticelli-january-2024/995514.md?page=11)
